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Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai 00:17All right, good evening, everyone. It’s Dr.Shiva Ayydurai. It is 8pm eastern standard time here in Cambridge. I know we have people also joining us internationally, we also want to welcome people.

Every Thursdays, we do a town hall on a six part series. And that series is literally the platform of the Dr. Shiva for President campaign.

John, if you can bring up that logo, we can all see, John’s gonna bring up the diagram that will really help people understand how our platform is built for people. Listening, our platform is a platform in action. What we mean by that is, we’re not going to say, Oh, we’re gonna do this.

If and when we become precedent is a diagram up, John, I’m bringing it up right now. Okay. And are you campaign is a campaign of action in? Indeed.

So if you look at the diagram, when we launched our campaign, typically, all of the other candidates are most candidates who run for office, say, well, after I become President, I’m going to do this after I become President, I’m going to do that. Well. Our becoming president is essentially going to be an extension of what we’re already doing, and it’s going to help us accelerate things faster.

So John, scroll up a little bit. So when we launched our campaign, we said when it comes to health care, I’ve done some of the most extensive analysis on health care, people can go see the many videos I’ve done over the last five or 10 years. But as a systems biologist, as someone who’s been in, in the medical field for many, many years, and who’s pursued health care, I really, really understand that the real issues are the corruption of the system of health care that’s taken place over the last 70 years starting in about 1970, starting with the policies of John Kennedy, and others, but the system has become so corrupt, to think that someone’s going to get into office, and suddenly uncorrupt, this system is just nonsense.

So what is the platform for a doctor Shiva for President for Health Care? Well, we’re not going to wait to wait to somehow convert these devils and evil people to start doing the right thing or passing this bill or that bill. Our goal is we recognize as a from myself, and having studied this, when you really look at your body, which is ultimately what you want to take care of the body central operating system is the immune system. Okay? Your immune system is not just one part of your health, it is really the foundation of all of your entire body.

So about five Thursday’s ago, this is our fifth one, we did an entire discussion, in very simple terms, accessible to every citizen, not only the United States on the planet, educating them on what is the immune system. From pioneering work I’ve done as a as a renowned scientist on the immune system. But not only theory, we gave people actual foods, protocols that they could do to strengthen their immune system.

It was not only foods, it was not only exercise, but also involved the social aspect of the importance of having community that, you know, if you want to build immunity, build community, have good friends, etc. But we did that that is our health care program, which means it goes down to the individual understanding the science and then being able to deploy it. And regardless of what government does, our campaign is going to teach people how to take care of their immune system.

Look, my great great grandfather lived to 102 he had all of his teeth. And, you know, there was no health care systems in the Indian villages. But he followed certain important disciplines.

And we have to get back into self reliance. If the government wants to do something great. But I running for president is going to teach people these things.

winning the presidency will just help us accelerate it because we’ll use that bully pulpit to get it out to more people. But you cannot expect the current corrupt system which has created the worst decline in lifespan in the industrialized nation. John, if you can bring that up for the United States to think that they are somehow going to solve this okay? It’s just nonsense and people wasting money with all these politicians saying give me money.

Vote for me and then I’m gonna go fix this. And if you look at this graph, that is I’m, we’re the only ones talking about this graph. Everyone in the world should be talking about this.

But this graph, as I’ve talked about, shows, really the disaster of the Democrats and Republicans, and this is what you get for voting for the lesser of two evils, you get suffering and an early grave, the red line on that chart starting from 1980, it didn’t happen over COVID. That’s sort of the distraction, what you notice is that red graph represents the lifespan, or the life expectancy of a US citizen. And you can see where we’re headed as your children are going to live less than you.

Okay, and this policy is not because of COVID, it started around a little after 1980, because a gray line represents the average of the life expectancy of all the other industrialized nations. And you can see right around 1980, a little bit after that we started going, we mean in the United States started going in a wackadoodle way. And around 2016, sorry, 2014, we actually started going down, and then COVID Just accelerated.

And now the point is, that that red line represents the destruction of the immune system. All right, no other presidential candidate even knows any of this, because they’re either lawyers or they’re top down. But more importantly, they do not give a damn about the suffering of the American people.

They just don’t, because they’re not one of you. I’m one of you. I came from everyday forfarmers grandparents, in a village in India, but I grew up in New Jersey, of everyday working people.

That’s who I am. I’m not a Robert Kennedy, who’s a liar, who says one thing one day, and then tells everyone coming to his home, they should be vaccinated. I’m not Donald Trump was a golden plated toilet seat.

I’m not a Joe Biden, who basically says whatever needs to be said says he has all these degrees. And doesn’t these people are all liars? I’m an everyday person who’s one of you. And because of that, I’m the one who’s bringing out this graph.

I’m the one who’s talking about this, because our campaign really comes down to educating everyone on this graph. And what does this graph show that if you keep voting for the lesser of two evils, people are going to die even faster in the United States. And this is just black and white.

This is the results of the policy of both of these parties and the behavior of people looking above. Every four years, they give you another full, they do a worldwide wrestling, entertainment political theater. Oh, today, we have Obama today, we have Trump, today, we have another fool.

And we have to go look to ourselves from below. And that’s what we’re going to talk about today’s talk is going to be about how you become a leader. What is governance, but anyway, John, go back to our campaign platform.

So we actually educated people. Five, Thursday’s ago on health care. That’s our platform.

That’s the campaign for healthcare. For Saturday for Thursday’s ago, sorry, Thursdays, we gave a analysis on the environment, but the environment again, we made it very personal. Once you learn how to eat locally, support your local farmers eat food on a budget and eat healthy, you understand that, again, the Democrats or Republicans have together destroyed the environment.

The fact that a company like Monsanto existed this long, the fact that you have the entire supply chain of the food and soil system has been destroyed. And forget all these NGOs, forget all these people have been doing stuff, whatever they’ve been doing ain’t working because we’re in a desperate condition. The latest research shows what happens when you genetically engineer food.

I did that latest research in six papers, we showed that when you genetically engineered food, that it fundamentally destroys the health of the plant, you don’t get as nutritious food, and so on. There’s been some very, very good scientists have shown that it is the pesticides. And this is going to sound conspiratorial, but it is and this has been published in some of the leading journals in the world literally creates changes in sexuality.

And this is a very touchy topic, because what’s happened is there may be some normative distribution of sex, but it is my view based on the research that there’s been a substantial change in this. And because of that substantial change, what has happened is people are trying to normalize this biological issue that has taken place with because of the pesticides. But if we start supporting our local farmer supporting locally organic grown food, we take control of our own health.

We start becoming an active citizen, you have to start asking why your kids when they go to high school or your local elementary schools, why they’re eating garbage, you know why all the tax dollars you pay or not getting them locally grown fruit so we did a whole session on how do you go shopping? How do you take care of your health? That’s our environmental platform. Okay, on education That was two, Thursday’s ago scroll down, John, we want to teach people how to tell truth from lies. And the way you do that is with the understanding of systems science.

So in about an hour and a half, we taught people the fundamentals of systems science. As many of you know, I create I’ve created an entire program called Truth, Freedom health, where you can actually learn about the science of systems, the same knowledge I learned at MIT, about 20,000 people in the world, understand the knowledge of systems, like Prometheus bringing fire to the world. I’ve put that knowledge framework that anyone can learn this and without the knowledge of systems in the modern day world, you’re frankly screwed.

You’re going to be used and abused by what I call the Great deceivers of our time. The Elon Musk’s the Tucker Carlson’s, the Donald Trump’s the Kennedys. These people are the modern, great deceivers.

They’re all part of the establishment. And they’ve learned to say what you want to hear. But they are doing exactly the opposite.

So they’ve learned how to lie through their teeth, and confuse people. But there is a way to to get real education that’s through system science, education. And then last Thursday, we did an entire talk on innovation.

We taught people the seven secrets of innovation, what you can do to really be an innovator to be an entrepreneur, and we went through those. And by the way, all those talks will be if they’re not up on our website cheaper for

Today, we want to talk about governance. What is governance? Am I going to talk about lobbyists? Sure, we all know they’re corrupt. We’re going to talk about the fact that the judicial system is corrupt, definitely.

Are we going to talk about term limits? We can we know that there should be term limits, but for some reason, we never get term limits. Okay. Everything that people actually want, they don’t get what they want, because the entire system is corrupt.

So what’s our option? Well, the option is we have to become leaders in our own community. Well, how do you do that? Well, you have to understand the principles of leadership, and how to do that bottoms up. We’re not going to give a talk today of some Dale Carnegie, talk about how to win friends and influence people.

We’re going to talk about how you can become a leader in your own community. We have a number of leaders who’ve gone through the educational program that I’ve created. And we’re going to give you the high points of that today.

Franklin kata will say a few words, the transformation, he went through John med lar, and then crystal Ellis, but let me really talk about governance, you know, to me, governance, and being a leader is not some I didn’t go to Harvard Business School, take some stupid, two year MBA program, and just I’m gonna spout off stuff, the leadership I learned is bottoms up, building companies bottoms up with no capital, right? bringing together people teams, playing baseball being you know, in team sports, you learn a lot and doing this. But let’s first begin with what are the key elements of leadership, and you may want to take some notes, this video will be up there. But one of the most important elements of leadership is you have to put together teams, you have to bring people together, right? So one of the key elements of leadership is, who do you keep on your team? And who do you not keep on your team? Because if you don’t have a strong team, and you don’t know how to build a team, as a leader, you’re frankly screwed.

Trump talked a big game, but who did he put on his team? John Bolton, a warmonger. Okay. Look at all the people who put on his team that we’re all people that had no integrity.

And in many of them, were also incompetent. Okay. So lack of integrity and competency.

So one of the great lessons I learned when you’re building teams, and you can, you can draw a diagram on this if you want. But one of the key elements is that you have to deal with this very interesting issue between competency and in competency. And people with integrity and no integrity, okay? And you’re constantly dealing with this.

And as a leader, you have to make very, very decisive choices on who you build a team around, especially our model of governance as you’re doing this locally in your local community. So if I were to draw an axis, so you can draw an x axis that goes from left to right, and we’re going to do sort of old school. So if I were to draw a little axis that went, you know, left to right, okay.

And on the left side, I put the word let’s say put the word incompetent. Okay, on the far left, and then the far right, I put the word competent, okay. So if you have an access, you have someone who’s incompetent here and competent here, so yeah.

competent and competent and competent. Okay. So that’s one done mention of how you look at people as a person competent.

Are they incompetent, right? If I give them something to do, can they get the task done? Or if they give them something to do, they screw it up. Okay, that’s one dimension. Now on that same graph, you can draw a vertical axis going from here to here, looking at a different attribute, and that is called no integrity on the bottom, and integrity on the top.

So you end up with a two by two matrix, okay? The people over here, have are very competent, and they have high integrity, that people on the bottom are incompetent and they have no integrity. And I would argue Trump hired a lot of these people, okay, which is the swamp. And then over on the bottom, right, you have competent people, but they have no integrity.

And then over here, on the upper left here, you have incompetent people, but they have integrity. So let’s look at that. Okay.

So when you’re when I started one of my earliest first companies, when I was 25 years old, I was dealt I had me and you do this when you put new teams together. Especially if you’re building movements bottoms up, you don’t have the luxury of having billions of dollars and hundreds of millions to hire HR people, and they do all of your vetting, you have to do this on your own. So it’s, so you have to really be a leader and you have to build your wisdom.

So the biggest question that comes to people is, who do you fire? Okay, not, you know, who do you get rid of as a leader? Okay. So if you have people who are highly competent and have a lot of integrity, that’s easy, right? You’re gonna keep them check. And what is integrity mean? integrity in an organization as you’re especially growing a new one means these people aren’t gossip people.

They don’t say one thing and do another. Okay. They’re not rumormongers, right? They say they’re going to do something and they do it, you can count on them.

All right, that’s a person who has integrity, their words match their deeds. Simply put, competency competency means they have the skills, you tell them to put together a document, and it has no end. You don’t want spelling mistakes, they get it, it’s written properly.

You’re proud of them. It’s impressive. You tell them.

If you’re building an organization, many people have to do certain things. You say, hey, look, can you keep this? Can you clean up this room, you come back in the room is actually clean? Not like you have to tell them to do this, and that and this and you’re basically micromanaging them. So if you have someone with integrity, and they’re competent, which is the upper right, quadrant, obviously you keep them that’s easy, right?17:48All right.

Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai 17:51The next group of people on the bottom right, okay, people are incompetent, have no integrity. Obviously, you get rid of them very, very quickly, right? No integrity means you’re building an organization.

And one person goes, basically doesn’t, is not transparent. They sort of backed by people, they don’t do what they say, etc, right, etc. It’s the opposite of integrity.

And some of these people, if they’re obviously incompetent, which means they don’t to they are unable to do what your task you give them. That’s also an easy choice. So people are incompetent, and have no integrity, simple leadership skills, says get rid of them, right.

So one group, people with integrity, and competency you keep, and people who have no integrity are incompetent, you get rid of all right. So that’s pretty easy. Now, here are the areas where your leadership skill is really, really tested, where you have people in the upper left quadrant, they are incompetent, but they have a lot of integrity.

And you may see people like these, you get someone you tell them to do something, they sort of get it right, and they don’t get it. Right, right. You know, they they don’t have full attention to detail.

But they’re very, very good people. They show up on time, you can count on them. You say, Hey, can you be there? They’re always they’re high integrity people, but they have this in competency.

So that’s one group. What do you do there? The other area is that people are and this is probably the toughest. You will find people as a leader, they’re very competent, very skilled.

You tell them to do something, they’ll do it. However, they have no integrity. I’ll give you an example of these people.

They’re called salespeople. Okay, there when I was building one of my organizations, we had a great technology. We were you know, I had figured out how to bring in clients on my own.

We had a good product development guy. And then we hired a sales guy now the sales guy was interesting. Can you get me Some water, the sales guy was interesting.

He could sell. He was very diligent, very competent. But he would always go around these five people and say backbite everyone else create rumors, he was very, very destructive.

Okay. So the question came, should we keep this guy? Because when you’re a new forming organization, you need money, right? You need new customers. So the question is, what do we do with this guy? What do we do? So here’s a guy who’s very competent, but has no integrity.

And you’re just forming an organization, you’re building a bottoms up movement. And those of you you know, for our campaign, for example, you could be in some part of the world and or some part of the United States. And we thank you, and we ask you to help us organize, we want you to, or in sort of a governance model.

Ultimately, I believe the real governance comes from building, local, decentralized. You know, teams. So what do you do with the person who is absolutely competent, but has zero integrity? What do you do with them? John, maybe you can read out some of the answers either on Zoom, or on stream yard or whatever you say.

So we’ll, we’ll answer. So what do you do? You’re just starting this organization, you’re the leader, you know, to get rid of people are incompetent, and have no integrity, you know, to keep the people of integrity, but now you got this individual is very competent, but has no integrity. What do you do with that person? Lynn says fire them.

Who says that? Lynn?John Medlar 21:37dB Rudy, they all say fire the person who has no integrity. Okay,Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai 21:42what do other people say John? Gerald says, dump him? Who says that? Gerald says dump him.

Okay. All right. JustinJohn Medlar 21:52says, keep them initially to build grow, then you fire crystal says Yes.

Bye bye.Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai 21:58Okay.

All right. So Jane, expose their actions. Who says that James? Yeah.

James.John Medlar 22:08Liu says skills can be learned integrity is a character22:11flaw. Hmm.

Okay.John Medlar 22:15Arianna says no integrity, get rid of them. Alright.

Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai 22:20Great. I’ll come back and answer the question, by the way, what I’m sharing with you I used to teach at a course at Sloan School many, many years ago, but we’ll come back to this.

Okay. Now, let me ask the next question. You have someone who has high integrity, but they’re incompetent.

Meaning that they constantly make mistakes. They don’t have attention to detail, but they’re always there. What do you do with those people?John Medlar 22:49Teresa says train.

Uh huh. Emily says mentor, Glen says mentor. Hmm.

All right, anyone new. AndDr.SHIVA Ayyadurai 23:07says probation period.

Okay. So let me tell you, after many, many years, what I learned that was very effective, let’s go. So as a leader, you have to recognize when you’re building an organization, and you’re doing it, you know, not with top down support, and you have to do it on your own, you have to be very, very careful.

So if you have someone who’s very competent, and has no integrity. And by the way, when I asked this question at MIT, and I did a seminar to Harvard, the class was actually 5050. People said, Oh, well, you got to keep them, you know, because they’re making money for you, you know, you got to keep them.

Well, what we learned to do is when we found someone who had no integrity, especially in a startup organization, and they were very competent, we would fire them publicly, okay, we would get rid of them fast. Because these people, as a number of people are marked are very dangerous. Because they’re pure poison.

Because, especially in a new organization, they’re going to create a culture of no integrity. And you basically have no organization, you’re done. You might as well just close up shop, if you’re going to keep up people like this.

But the devil here is, well you know, they’re bringing in money, then that’s really the devil. The devil will have all these great attributes, but he’s got this one little thing that’s Wackadoodle. Okay.

And this will come back to when we talk about people like Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump and Robert F. Kennedy. These people actually have no integrity.

And yet, people are keeping them and holding on to them because they do not understand this concept. These people are poisoned. That’s in a larger level, right? And you see this in governance, but this is one of the most important lessons that you need to learn, particularly as a leader when you’re starting something new.

could apply this to anything a start up, etc. Now to the people who have a lot of integrity, but are incompetent or have attributes of incompetency, you as a leader have an interesting duty here, because of their integrity. And because of the fact that let’s say, when you hired them on their resume, they said, Hey, I know how to write.

And when you see their emails, there’s all sorts of spelling mistakes and errors. What do you do? The right thing to do here is you give them a very, very clear communication. And that’s a second attribute of leadership.

What I’m talking about right now is to have the wisdom here, you have to be wise, and I’m giving those elements of wisdom. And that’s what this really is. But the second attribute is communication, we’ll come to that.

But to these people, you have to be very, very clear in pointing out their errors, and then you give them ways to give them 30 days to fix it. And I’ll give you the example there were two companies, both of them are household names, you may know a company called Levi, a Levi’s jeans and another company called Pepsi at Pepsi, or Levi’s, the example that I remember with a with a person, I did a seminar with many, many years ago, there was a secretary. And the Secretary was always writing memos, which were just horribly written spelling errors, etc.

And the Levi’s model was when they went up to this person. They said, Oh, let’s say the person was bar Barbara, they said, All bar, we really love you. But you know, you know, we’ve seen some spelling mistakes, can you work on that, it’d be really nice.

And I really would like you that out of that very loosey goosey Pepsi had a very different model. When someone did that, they, they were trained to go to that person and say, hey, look, in the last two weeks, you’ve done 22 spelling mistakes, it has really affected the reputation of communications with other people, were giving you 30 days to fix this, your resume said that you had a BA in literature, and your work is not reflecting that. So they’d be very, very specific, clear, and point out examples that was, you know, very objective, okay.

And they would give them you know, certain time to fix that a probationary period. So, as a leader, you have to really learn that when you have people with high integrity, but they have this issue, you have to it’s your responsibility to clearly communicate to them, because ideally, you can try to preserve these people, and maybe they need some training, and you can mentor them. But some people are unmanned, storable.

And that’s a different issue. And then you have to let them go. So anyway, what I just shared with you is less than sometimes people never learn.

Many people start organizations and they keep failing because of this very important issue of not having the wisdom to identify this, you know, this phenomenon between integrity, and no integrity and competence and incompetence. Okay. First lesson of being a leader, you have to have the wisdom of how you build your teams, who you keep and who you let go.

All right. The second piece I want to talk to you about second item is communication. Communication has to be very clear and precise, and has to be understood by all.

And, you know, I had a very interesting professor at MIT. His name was Jim Williams. He was the only black professor at MIT, very interesting guy.

He grew up in Newport News, Virginia. And in 1968, he was able to come to MIT and he ended up getting a PhD at MIT in mechanical engineering, but also a PhD in literature from Oxford. But if you spoke to me sounded like a guy, you know, that you’d meet on the street.

He spoke very, very simply, when he used to teach his mechanics class when you used to teach a vibrations class. He didn’t make it very complex. You know, he would say when he was teaching the concept of vibration, he said, Imagine you’re in your car, and you’re going down the highway and you got some shocks gone, but you speak in a very, very easy to understand way, you know, so it was accessible to people.

So communication has to be accessible to people. So when Jim Williams when I was writing my thesis, he said you have to write and communicate as though you’re talking to an eighth grader, so anyone can understand very complex things. So if you notice, one of the things that I’m happy about in the communication I tried to do is, if you remember, in 2020, we explain to people the immune system, it’s a very complex, complicated thing.

But we use pictures and diagrams. And many people wrote to me because a husband and wife would be fighting against each other to get vaccinated or not. Typically, the woman did not want the children to wear masks and go through this vaccine mandates, and typically the men wanted it.

So there were a lot of risks. But I did a very simple 20 minute video, you know, with paper and pencil, I’m sorry, marker on a whiteboard. And we taught people hey, this is what the immune system is.

And everyone got that. And then this is why the immune system demands that what’s right for you may not be right for someone else that demand because of the complexity, what has to be a patient doctor relationship. Anyway, that’s simple video was able to win over many, many people.

But we did it through simple diagrams, you know, simple words, but we were communicating complexity. When we ran against Elizabeth Warren, who was a woman who is a senator Massachusetts, she said that she was a Native American, right, we had a very simple slogan, which said, only the real Indian can defeat the fake Indian. Now, it’s funny, right? But we really took a very complex topic.

And we made it very, very simple. So communication has to be precise. It has to sometimes you have to use poetry, but you have to make it accessible to people.

So communication is critical to being a leader, the example I gave you, with the Pepsi and Levi is quite important. Because Levi’s went down as a company, their brand got destroyed, Pepsi still exists. Many of the very well run companies, everything they do is done with precision.

So they have things called standard operating procedures SOPs, when my dad, many years ago, he was a chemical engineer, his company got taken over by Colgate. And even the process of when you talk to someone on the phone was very well documented how you speak to them how you communicate. And why is that important, because as you’re building an organization, communication becomes critical.

Because as you’re adding people, as a leader, you want to make sure the next person that comes in is following the same communication protocols. So because if one person speaks one way, and another person speaks another, and everyone’s is not having that core messaging, you’re gonna have, you don’t really have an organization anymore, okay? So it’s a very, very easy thing to think that communication is easy, but communication is one of the hardest things in our own organization that we run a beat or campaign or anything else, when we give an instruction to someone, the protocol we have, as a person should repeat back the instruction, say, do you mean, right? And then you proceed, and you’ll find out many, many errors occur in these very, very simple communications. So there’s the communication aspect on day to day, the precision that’s needed.

But then also on one too many communications when you’re trying to communicate a message, the diagram that John, if you can bring that up, you know, sometimes you can use visual communications, you know, picture tells 1000 words, when we put this diagram up, you know, we have the key things of our campaign go to the healthcare, environment, education, innovation, governance and economy, but it lets people know very clearly Oh, they have these are their platforms areas, right. And I’m gonna learn something very, very quickly. Right.

So thanks, John. So this the ability to communicate one to many, and sometimes you have to come up with good slogans, you know, very clear messages, and then you can go long form. Well, one of the interesting things that came out in 2021 was, as some of you may know, I was deep platformed, off Twitter, in 2021, actually, first and 2020.

And for exposing the fact that the government is the one that runs the backdoor portal into Twitter was my work that revealed that not Tucker Carlson, who came three years too late, not Elon Musk, right, who’s part of the censorship infrastructure and that we live in this very interesting world of serious deception right now. But when we expose that then when we, again in 2021, we found out that the government D platformed, me for exposing that infrastructure. So we had to communicate this very, very effectively to people and we got it out to about 400 million people.

One of the things that came out was the Stanford long fuse report said that I was considered the top six super spreaders on the internet and you They had said that I was doing a technique that was an unparalleled technique that I would do the short form tweets, which got out the core message. And I would drive them to longer form videos, which went detail. And apparently, this is why I was so effective in communications.

But it does speak to this point, that you can have the long form detail like we’re doing today. But then you have to be able to communicate the simplicity of it also. So part of leadership is, how do you get your message into very simple things that you can get it off what’s called an elevator pitch.

But also, you can communicate longer, you have to be able to do both. As a leader, we live in a world right now you have to be able to bring people in on a short message. But you have to deliver the long message also, because people need to get the depth of understanding.

It can’t just be sound bites after sound bites after sound bites, because that’s if you want a dumb, a group of people, right, that’s the Edward Bernays model of advertising was everything was a 32nd soundbite. The problem with most of the governance today in politics is everyone’s trying to just do a 32nd commercial, and there is no depth. But in my view, real leadership is you have the depth, and you have the ability to bring people in with a simple message.

Okay, so the second part, after wisdom in a leader is you have to have the ability to communicate. And it’s an art. I used to teach a course at MIT called systems visualization, where I used to teach people how to communicate from a systems approach.

So we need to teach people narrative storytelling, how to reduce something to a simple message, how to use pictures and diagrams, which we call systems diagrams, and how to bring in data, these four parts. And I may bring that out. In fact, we will probably include that if people want to know know how to do that.

So wisdom and communication. The third aspect of governance, you have to have you yourself have to be a wise person. And I gave you a very powerful technique, you have to be able to communicate effectively in the short form and the long form.

But trust one of the reasons, in spite of all the shadow banning and the censorship that takes place to my work, wherever we go, you know, I was just in Italy, in Sardinia, we had 200 300 people show up to a with no advertising within 24 hours, to a demonstration we did on the steps of one of the big churches there. Because people have great trust in my work and the work of our movement. And why is that? Trust comes when you tell the truth when it matters.

Let me repeat that again. Trust comes when you tell the truth when it matters. Tucker Carlson doesn’t tell the truth when it matters.

He waited two, three years. Okay. Most of these people do not tell the truth when it matters.

They tell it when it’s opportune for them to be popular. That is not a leader. That is a misleader, it’s not even a follower.

So one of the ways that you bring trust in is regardless of what it may do to your reputation at that point in time. You have to tell the truth when it matters. If you look at everything I’ve done, and our campaign and our movement, it we told the truth about the fact that government and social media have an unholy alliance, right in September of 2020.

We were the ones who discovered the signature verification issue that Carrie Lake is now talking about two years later. We did the work two years ago. We’re the ones who figured out that the machines have the capability to flip votes were the ones who figured out that ballot images get deleted in 2020.

Tucker Carlson waited three years and he was bullshitting people talking about wacky election fraud stuff because it would get him views internally. He was writing stuff saying oh, there is no election fraud. Okay, these are these are really dangerous and evil people.

They’re not leaders. They’re scumbags. And that’s, by the way, a technical term, you can use that in your communication, okay.

But trust comes when you tell the truth, when it matters. A great leader was a guy by the name of Alan McDonald, he was leading the space shuttle Challenger mission. He was told by NASA to launch and sign off on the launch, he refused.

The because he said, I know these O rings are not going to work. He told the truth. He died about two years ago and he said I never he goes, the most important thing in life is to tell the truth at the right time.

If you see a crime taking place over here, and you’re a journalist, and you have a huge megaphone, and you keep walking away. That’s not a leader. So please, do not give any credit to Elon Musk Tucker Carlson, Robert F.

Kennedy Jr. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

was supporting lockdown As in March of 2020, we weren’t. And then he plagiarizes our material. He writes a book in 2021 on Fauci when he was saying exact same thing supporting strict lockdowns.

So you have to really look at people, when did they say the truth when, when, when one of the biggest things we must learn is real leaders. You if you want to judge a leader, look at when they told the truth, not if they told the truth when they told the truth, all right. The other thing is, did they act on that truth? Did they actually take action? That was potentially risky to them? Alan McDonald took action.

He did not sign off he did an inaction which was good. Right. You know, we have always taken action when we in March 23 of 2020.

We wrote to Trump I wrote to Trump and I set fire this guy Fauci, then we ran a fire Fauci campaign, we collected 120,000 signatures. Then for a day and a half, we wrote our rickety bus down to Washington and gave Trump those signatures that’s called Truth, inaction. I didn’t see any of these guys congressmen out there, who now we’re talking about Fauci, let’s talk a little too late.

You’re just, you know, talking about stuff because you want to get views and but it’s nonsense. These people are not leader. So as leaders, for real governance, you have to tell the truth at the right time.

And you have to act on it when it matters. John meddler will speak to you shortly. He and I, we met on the Boston free speech rally, I was one of the leading organizers of it with John, and here was a big rally we organized for free speech on August was August 2017.

Right, John? And we organize one of the biggest John, you may just have some of those pictures queued up with the 40,000, who showed up. Okay. So I was asked to be one of the speakers of the Boston free speech rally, I helped organize it with other young, young high school students who were really concerned that there wasn’t a spectrum of speech.

Anyway, three days before this event was to be held up a week before Charlottesville took place. Some of you may remember where that was an incident where there were all these left and right, people, there were some horrible events that took place. Well, our free speech rally was suddenly characterized as a Nazi event.

And I was called a Nazi. Crazy. And the two myths leaders who did this were the mayor of Boston, who is now the labor secretary for Biden, Marty Walsh, was running for mayor in Massachusetts, in Boston, against the black guy.

And the governor was Charlie Baker was running against a Hispanic guy. So both of the frankly, both these guys were very racist people. But they wanted to act like they were anti racist.

So they branded me as a white supremacist. It’s, it’s unbelievable. Now, at that point, we, the other people were invited to speak at that rally.

And all of those people ran away. They said, Oh, my God, this is gonna this is a white, this is going to be branded as a white supremacist event. In fact, Trump called it a white supremacist event.

But on principle, we showed up 40 of us showed up John, do you have a picture of that? You may just want to bring it up. And we were faced with a crowd of 40,000. Okay, 40,000 people came to kill us a mob of 40,000 people you can see right there.

It’s all fake news. So that’s what happened. That’s just one picture.

We were in that middle of that. And 40,000 people join, you may want to saw some of the other pictures. And we said black lives do matter.

We weren’t supporting BLM. But we said look, black lives do matter. No to GMOs stop Monsanto.

So we were having a true free speech rally. We had people from the left the right, communists, you know, Green Party people, right wing people. We really want it to have true free speech.

But the two myths leaders, Marty Walsh, and Baker riled up over 40,000 people, John, just type in 40,000 and Google you’ll see it free speech, rally 40,000 Boss, there it is that picture right there. 40,000 people showed up and convinced that I was a Nazi. All right.

And John was a white supremacist. All right. So but because we moved forward, we did not shirk.

We have tremendous trust among hundreds for under 500 million people all over the world who know our work. So real governance comes from not only wisdom and choosing the right people communicate think clearly, but always doing the right thing, not what is convenient. A lot of people say, Well, why don’t you be quiet? Why don’t you try to be friends with Tucker? Yeah, he did that.

But he’s a nice guy. Oh, Elon Musk, be friends with him. No, you can’t do this.

This is why we end up where we are. This is why we end up with the life expectancy, right? Going this other way. Because people Oh, Bobby Kennedy, I guess Bobby had to do that because his wife had to wanted all the people there.

You know what he did? Right? And this is the latest December 2022. Here’s Robert F. Kennedy medical freedom, saying he believes a COVID vaccine is an experimental vaccine.

He believes that the it violates the Nuremberg Code in his own house in Malibu. Everyone had to be vaccinated or show proof of vaccination of the COVID-19 mRNA vaccine. And then he blames his wife.

And when I expose this, you have a bunch of idiots saying, Well, Bobby had to do that because of his wife. What are you talking about? These people are not trustworthy people. They’re not leaders, they have no trust.

But consistently, real leaders show trust. The next thing so wisdom, communication trust. The next important problem is solving problems.

Real leaders can look at a situation and are inspiring people to solve a problem. That is what real leadership is ultimately about. You have to be able to solve a problem.

If you’re in a relationship, you have to be able to solve a problem. What is the problem you have to be able to look beyond left or right, see the hole and solve the problem? Well, who in our world knows how to solve problems? Real electricians do real plumbers do you’re gonna be hearing from Franklin kata? People actually have skills engineers who have had to put in their time. Lawyers don’t solve problems.

I’m sorry. They create problems. They bill on how long the problem continues? How many of you have had a lawyer? There’s no interest to solve the frickin problem to change your chain to chain? Well, I had to do that I had to file that brief.

I had to do that. Oh, my God, what’s my bill while I had to do that, I had to do this. Doctors don’t get paid.

The entire medical system is about prolonging the problem. They want to find more problems. They don’t want to solve problems.

Engineers, we have to solve problems. Because we don’t get paid. Electricians.

If you don’t fix something, you don’t get paid. But the only profession that keeps getting paid and holds you in hostage as lawyers? Well, I can’t take your case. Well, you owe me I can’t do anything so and who runs Washington lawyers, Robert F.

Kennedy, Jr. Lawyer, okay, go down the list. Or top down people like Trump and others who had silver spoons, they never had to be accountable if they solve a problem or not.

I grew up getting five hours of sleep since I’ve been 12 years old, I’ve always had to my mother said it’s not sufficient, you’re gonna have to get an A plus to be getting an A, because of the world that I grew up in. So I’ve always had to work harder working class people work their butts off, they have to solve the problem. Otherwise, they’re out of a job, especially if you’re an entrepreneur, your business goes.

So solving a problem? How do you solve problems? Well, you have to have a skill, you have to be able to see the whole you have to see the hole. And what does that mean? Well, in the modern world, the whole is always a system. There is no longer easy problems anymore.

The world is made up of complex systems. Right now, the healthcare system is a complex system, transportation systems, right? You know, information technology systems, your body is a system. So how do you solve problems? Well, you can see a book I have over here called system and revolution, not saying you want to go by it.

But I spent my entire life looking at complex systems, figuring out the principles that operate them, and then educating people to look at any problem and see things as they are. We don’t want to be the blind men. As Buddha talked about, you know, the six blind men you remember, remember the story, six blind men are brought into a room and an elephant is brought in.

And each one touches different parts of the elephant, and they see something completely different. We want to be able to take our blindfold off and see the whole way in order to do that. In the modern world.

People need to understand the science of systems. They need to be able to see that hole. Fortunately, I spent a lot of time teaching people how to do this and those of you interested can go to truth, Freedom health and learn this or you can go look at the class I did two days ago.

Oh, where I gave you the science of systems. But without the science of systems in the modern world, you will not be able to solve problems. We need to be able to solve problems, we need to be able to come up with real solutions, which requires competency.

And, and if you don’t have the competency bringing together other people who have competency, okay, so we’ve talked about wisdom, how to select people who you want to bring into great teams, we’ve talked about communication, we’ve talked about trust, and we’ve talked about the attribute of being able to solve problems. The other aspect of being a leader is to walk the walk that I’m going to end on that walk the walk, not talk, the talk, but walk the walk, you have to be able to walk the walk, you have to be able to get on the ground, and be among people not say that in words, but actually come from people come from your everyday people, if you start a company. I mean, we used to.

I used to clean the toilet, we used to clean the carpet, everyone did it together. Okay. You were one team, everyone worked together.

So any job, I would ask someone to do, I knew how to do. So you can support someone else. It’s not like you’re sitting here telling people what to do.

This is why if you look at these people go into governance. If you watch these little Senate hearings or House of Representative hearings, you know, when they’re asking the person questions, they didn’t even put those questions together. They had some staffer do it.

And that staffer is being funded by some lobbyists. So these people are all talking heads. They don’t even know what they’re saying.

And now, compare that to the founders of this country. Okay. George Washington, knew how to survey he was a farmer, right? Thomas Jefferson could build a house, he was an architect.

He was an engineer, go look at Franklin. I mean, what has happened to these kinds of people actually could walk the walk. They weren’t just talking here, and telling other people to do stuff.

One of the things Einstein talked about was that when you have a task, and you are so far removed from the task from the actual production events, of what’s actually going on, you actually don’t know what the hell’s going on. And that is what governance is, there. Very few people actually know, manufacturing, that they’ve never built anything.

There’s actually very few people who actually know math. There’s actually very few people who know, you know, electrical systems. You know, if I, you know, we’re going to be putting on our website, who our cabinet is going to be if I wanted someone to be the head of the FCC, it’s going to be frank plicata.

And Frank is going to talk shortly. Frank, is it? Is it ground level electrician, but he knows everything about radio systems? Why don’t we have people like this? Because the political appointments today are who gave you money? Seriously. So how can you create policies when you have people running systems who know nothing about them, they don’t walk the walk.

And this inability to walk the walk pervades all of these myths, leaders. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

He says he’s for medical freedom, but I have a video where he’s saying I’m pro vaccine, I’m emphatically pro vaccine. I vaccinated all my kids with all 69 vaccines. He says that, and then over here, he goes on to rail against the CDC and the corrupt government.

And then he says, but I’m going to get them to create safe vaccines. I mean, this stuff doesn’t make any sense. We have brainwashed people to accept myths, leaders who never walked the walk.

Trump, think about him, came in with I’m going to lock her up. Nothing happened, Hillary. Now one thing.

He’s the one who told people to march towards the Capitol, he went the other way. There’s a lot of people still in jail. And he never pardon them.

He pardoned Jared Kushner’s father who hired a prostitute to blackmail his own brother in law. Come on. Why are we accepting this in our leaders, they do not walk the walk.

So there’s many other attributes. But in my opinion, those of you who want to really support governance, we want you to go local. Number one, have this wisdom as you’re building teams follow the simple thing by the way, that little example I gave you.

If you wanted to take a course at MIT, you’d have paid me 2500 bucks. You just got that for nothing. Okay? Free but that is one of the most powerful lessons you learn how you bring teams together.

That’s real wisdom. Number two, you have to be able to communicate with succinctness, but also be able to go and give depth. We have way too many people who have Madison Avenue people coming up with little soundbites, but they have no depth.

That’s not leadership. There’s nothing there. And as I talked about, you have to build trust with people, you have to tell the truth when it matters.

And you have to be able to solve problems. And then finally, you have to walk the walk. And these are the fundamental attributes of leadership.

I want to bring a couple of people to make this real to you. John, is Frank Locata. There? Um, yeah, I’ve seen Amir aser.

Yeah. So I want to share with Frank, Frank is going to share with you because Frank came, you know, part of our team, you know, Frank was a great team member, but Frank’s become a leader unto himself now in his own community, up in northern Massachusetts, and Frank is going to share with you the transformation that he went through and how we became a leader. Go ahead, Frank.

Frank Licata 56:14Yes. Hello, good evening, we’re in a gore. Good day, wherever you are in the world.

Thanks for inviting me here. Yeah, I, you know, I was pretty much a political, I didn’t really care too much about politics prior to 2015. And my first dabbling in it was actually in my town where there was a friend of mine, who said it, he was new to town, and he says, I’m going to I’m going to try to unseat this Selectmen, an 18 year incumbent a townie who’s you could not get rid of, and he says, I’m gonna, I’m gonna, I’m gonna unseat him.

And I said, I’ll help you. It’s so this guy had an idea. He said, he goes, I can save the town a million dollars on on health insurance for the employees of the town, because it’s really simply just shopping around this guy staying with the same provider.

And quite frankly, we think he’s getting a kickback from them. So all right, great. I’m a taxpayer, I want to save money.

I’m fiscally conservative. So back then, the social media advertising was somewhat new. And I said, Well, I’ll tell you what, stand in your kitchen and give me a two minute video and explain everything you just explained to me of what you want to do.

And I’m gonna throw some money at the big social media ones there. And I’m going to target it down to any one voting age that’s in this town, and it wasn’t a lot of money. And I said, I’m just gonna do this as a little hobby.

Well, wouldn’t you know, voter turnout was quadrupled. He won by a landslide, and nobody could believe we unseated this guy. So I was so excited.

I was, it was really fun. I was charged up because at that point, I was like, This guy is the outsider. Kicking the establishment in the crotch.

I’m like, I sort of liked that, right? But a couple months goes, goes by or in June 2015. And a businessman Donald J. Trump comes down the escalator.

And I listened to him and I said, I saw him as the outside agent of change at the time, I says, Wow, this is this is great. It’s exciting. I’m meeting a lot of people here.

And, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s a feels like a revolution. And I said, I’m all in. So at that point, I literally took a year and a half off my, my, my work.

I didn’t I didn’t work for a year and a half, from June 2015 until the inauguration, January 2017. I threw myself into the campaign as a volunteer full time and primarily working Massachusetts in New Hampshire, actually New Hampshire, first and then and then in Massachusetts. And I did everything.

I mean, I was like, Supercharged. Dr. Shiva might have played some of the videos of it before, but I was like, we I would do the, you know, we would build stages for the rallies, we would do signs.

I had a small group of people, contractors, like myself retired a lot of retired guys. And we would travel 1000s of miles around New England do 1000s of have massive signs and stuff like that anyone that wanted a high traffic location, we were there. And we did it.

It was we felt like we’re in a move. And actually, we, we would film it and then put it on a thing that I created called New England for Trump and it would go across the whole country and everybody was trying to keep up with us. They were like, wow, look at these crazy guys in Boston hanging off the expressway with floodlights.

Like we want to be like them. So we started this movement. And so that itself was exciting.

So then you get in, and, you know, I was always happy with it. What’s the inauguration and all that and then you know, then I met Dr. Shiva then came midterms.

2018. And, and so it was I think it was 2017 I met Dr. Shiva at one of the Republican town committee meetings because I was never a member first of all, I was never a member of a party but they kind of wanted me to to sign up for the for their.

For the Republican, you know, be a member of their Partly because I want to be a delegate, which I never was. But nonetheless, I was there mostly as a laughingstock they kind of like at first they sort of made fun of Trump. And so they like, let’s, let’s invite this guy to be part of our town committee, we’ll shoot spitballs at him or whatever.

So, whatever. But then he won. And there was like, wow, that’s cool.

You’re the Trump guy in town. And then I met Dr. Shiva.

And he was running against Elizabeth Warren as the first Republican, he gave them that the party a try then, and he came to speak, got a standing ovation, no matter where he went. Everybody loved what he had to say. But the party didn’t want the outsider.

That’s the problem. We quickly learned that they, they didn’t want to win, you know, so 2020 came along, Trump was running again. They kicked all of us grassroots guys to the curb, the party took over, they you know, they need us anymore.

Dr. Shiva was running for US Senate again against the other senator. And at that point, we really saw the collusion between the parties where the the mass GOP did not want a winner they, they want it to tank on purpose.

And in fact, the head of the party lives in my town as well. And I saw his facts come out, he came after me with severe vitriol for the crime of bringing Dr. Shiva speak again, getting standing ovations every went but they didn’t want that they just want us to be quiet and not to not rock they a little bit a little boat.

So we saw it, we saw it, we saw firsthand how both parties colluded together. You know, they wanted that top down dominance, even if it meant they didn’t win. They just, it was one party against any outsider and Dr.

She was an outsider. That’s why I like him, you know, because he’s, you know, rocking the boat. And so I’m no longer involved in takedown politics.

I learned the hard way about it took me you know, over five years to try to try it the way that I thought it was supposed to be done. only to learn that it’s you can’t beat them. It’s just like, if you walked into a casino, and you think you’re going to walk out with their money, that’s not going to happen.

It’s just a little strike. But now the house always wins. So just don’t try to beat the house.

You know, make your own. Make your own house. So really, the only way to do it is bottoms up.

It’s the only way it’s them. It’s them by them. I mean, both major parties, the establishment against us all.

And you know, you’re not going to beat them playing on their fields. That’s for sure. So, what we got going here is I don’t I don’t think I’ve seen anything like it anywhere really, where we’re getting an education.

They were learning how to, you know, self organize, and bottoms up. And I can tell you this actually does they don’t like it. So they’re gonna fight you all the way.

But that’s when you know you’re winning.Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai 1:02:55All right, thank you.

Yeah. Okay, thank you very much. Very nicely put, let’s go over to Crystal Ellis crystal is out in Nebraska.

So crystal, maybe you can share your journey and what you learned. from a leadership standpoint, crystal has become a leader, you know, for our campaign, etc. In Nebraska.

Frank in Massachusetts, go ahead, Crystal.1:03:19Hi, everyone. So I would say to keep it as far as it comes to leadership or having the clarity that it would in focus that it takes to accomplish certain goals.

When I before I had met Dr. Shiva gone through any of his curriculum, any of the courses or met any of the community. It was obviously slightly before COVID I was really politically naive.

I fell for a lot of politicians who didn’t really excuse me promise a lot. But maybe they seem like they were fighting for the underdog. I always appreciated people who acted like they were for the underdog or the working people in general.

But in hindsight, you know, a lot of those people obviously are all of them. They’re all talk they they definitely their deeds don’t don’t match their words. But after COVID had hit, I was in a lot of disbelief.

So I wasn’t really sleeping properly, probably wasn’t eating properly. I didn’t have any balance in my life. I felt like I needed a lot of answers.

I was confused. I felt alone. Um, I really felt like I was going crazy, you know, I’d wake up every morning like, Is this really happening? Like I had to put a mask on to go to the store or, and I couldn’t see people’s faces.

It was something that just seemed so surreal and a real dystopian Wait, it was just like, it wasn’t good. It wasn’t a good feeling at all. So when I came across Dr.

Shiva has videos, speaking on, you know, the immune system, so many topics, and then weaving politics, through it in such an uncompromising way, saying things that I wish that I could, like, say myself, but nobody, you know, probably thought that nobody would listen to me, or care what I had to say. I just felt like he was saying everything I felt was true. And so I started watching a lot of his videos, I learned a lot, I signed up as a warrior went through the course many, many times.

Dr. Shiva, you always say, Oh, she’s been through the course, like 30 times, it’s like, over 150 By now, I didn’t sit there and take notes every time you know, maybe sometimes I be doing other things, folding laundry, or even, you know, before I fell asleep, I would just listen to it, it was it was relaxing, I heard other people would say that, like his voice is very calming and soothing. So it was like a sense of reassurance that I wasn’t, and there was a community of people out there who felt the same way.

Who didn’t want to wear masks or, or focus. Thinking that, you know, getting a vaccine was just going to make everything better, or go away. And so, you know, that journey was, it was tough.

So it was it was nice, you know, getting in those, those good inputs, or those, those good learning experiences that I got through the program, to kind of help take away some of the bad habits that I was in. Because in the beginning of COVID, I’m sure a lot of people, you’re getting all these videos, watch this documentary, watch this video, watch this person saying this. And I would watch these things, and I went down all these rabbit holes, of everything you could ever imagine, right? These conspiracy theories to? I don’t know, I’m kind of a reductionist approach.

I mean, I could name specific things that I do think that other people still watch, or whether it’s a constitutional like approach or a legalism approach to a scientific approach to whatever it is that people wanted to focus on, oh, if we would, if we could just do this, then you know, everything would be better, right? We could just prove the PCR tests were were whatever, then, you know, like people who wanted to just focus in on this one topic. And I knew something was wrong with that. And I’d watched some of these videos and these other doctors.

And there was always something missing. And something that felt disingenuous, it wasn’t, it just didn’t feel right. So after I found Dr.

Shiva, Stefan, I knew that was that was the route I wanted to go, I actually, you know, got on a plane, flew out to Massachusetts, with my son knocked on Dr. Shiva, his office door, and met John med bar. And at the time, a lady named Jacqueline, and they were very nice to me.

And they, they put me to work. So we wanted to know, what can we do to help out this campaign and this great guy, like educating people and lifting people up? And it was fun, like, seeing Dr. Shiva in action when he tries to inspire and motivate people say, you know, go out there and, you know, talk to your community.

He does it. I watched him do it. He’d get on the bus and town after town after town.

It wouldn’t matter how many people were there. He spoke to everybody the same way. And even when, excuse me, I would be going into the office and maybe there was a time I was staying downtown, and I would take the tea to the office, I would be handing out cards and flyers to those people.

And they’re like, Oh, I know Dr. Shiva. I’m like, really? Where did you meet him right here on the tee.

Like, he’s great, you know, and so it just shows you that he’s already done all that groundwork in his community. So it’s just very inspiring and I would say now, you know after it In hindsight, everything that I’ve done, I have a lot of clarity, I I can sleep at night. And more importantly, I go to bed knowing that I’ve spent my day with the community and group of people that are really good people.

And I’m fighting for a cause that is empirically the best approach and way forward for humankind, I believe, and I wake up knowing that as well. So, yeah, thank you, Dr. Shiva, and everybody here.

Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai 1:10:37Thanks, Krista. And if you look at before we go to John, as I look at Frank and Crystal articulate, you know, over the last two, three years that I’ve known them, their ability to communicate these very, very difficult concepts in a very tangible way is quite what I would call leadership, you know, that once you you cannot be a leader, a real leader, without the theory and the action coming together.

I mean, Frank, and I’ve had many, many conversations, right? Theoretical conversations, but then it’s always active, right? We’ll have a theory conversation that will be out in the cold putting up a sign, right. And that’s what needs to happen. We live in a world right now with these Miss leaders.

We’re over here talking something. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

We organized one of the biggest protests here. And then he calls us up when he once he knew like 3000 people, oh, can I come? We say no, you can’t come. That’s all he does.

He watches where the dinar will tell you watches where a lot of people are. And then he swoops in. Or he watches if there’s a ground up movement being done by somebody, and then he hijacks those movements.

These people aren’t real. And so I want to just let you know, Frank works as an electrician full time. Crystal is an entrepreneur, you know, full time a jewelry maker, everyone in our movement.

And the kind of people who are real leaders are truly people work for a living and come bottoms up. Another person I want to do the third person is John meddler John’s not to 5060 years old, he’s not in his 50s. He’s a 20 year old.

And John has gone through his journey. John, can you share your journey? John?John Medlar 1:12:2029, to be exact, but yeah, I went I met when I first met on your 20s Oh, yeah. When I was when I first met you, I must have been like, what 23 or something is it really been that long, like some of what we we met in like 2017 First Senate campaign and so so basically, to stepping back a bit, I was raised in a very religious household, I was basically taught that like, the purpose of life was to fight evil through your, through your actions, and that you had to your actions had the mat, match your words, you couldn’t just go to church on Sunday, and then walk out the church doors, and then you know, act like a and then an act like you’re living a double life or something living with contradictions, you’re, you have to live out your values with integrity.

So I was at least raised with that. But I would say that I am a being a, you know, the young whippersnapper that I was I had a lot of passion and a lot of desire. And I was definitely very into into politics, but I had a lot of skills and competencies that I had to learn.

So I would really fall into that, that category that Dr. Shiva just mentioned, of high integrity, but maybe maybe a lot of areas of growth and competency that I needed to. But I needed to get it needed to grow in.

So anyway, so I was into I got into politics, out of a desire to you know, I could see things wrong with the world, I could see the corruption out there. When I was a call in college, I could see the creeping threats to censorship and stuff, I can see the creeping censorship on the college campuses. That was that was coming up.

And so I started getting really involved in free speech activism, myself and a number of other young people. People like myself, who had a lot of passion, but very little experience. We just started like doing stuff organizing, trying to organize rallies and stuff like that.

And a few of them were actually very successful. And then we, but but it’s just pure pure luck. The conditions were just right.

In hindsight being 2020 But But we thought, yeah, this is gonna be great. And we started having all these speakers that we were in inviting and people that were showing up a lot of big names, ie celebrities and influencers and stuff like that, started to get attention. But then we met this guy named Dr.

Shiva, who had the best political slogan I’d ever seen. Only the real Indian can defeat the fake Indian and being the young edge, Lord that I was like, yes, gotta get that guy. So we met him and brought him on board and learn not only did he have a really catchy slogan, but he was a very experienced organizer and activist in his own right.

So, so we immediately meshed on that point right there and I thought, hey, I can I can learn a lot from this guy. And then when stuff hit the fan, you saw those 40,000 people come out because the mayor and the police commissioner demonized us. Dr.

Shiva stood by my stood by me when all the other influencers ran for the hills. And so that showed me that first off right there, he was a real one, that he was a real fighter. And that he was that and so I saw I stuck stuck by him and out of gratitude and loyalty, stuck around with his helped out with the campaign and stuck around with his movement, and having the opportunity to have worked with and, and fight alongside with Dr.

Shiva on all these issues very, very closely for the for the years since then, since 2017. I have learned a lot, a lot. And, and I’ve and so that in and of itself has been an amazing opportunity to not only in many ways confirm what I already knew about integrity, but become a lot more sure about it become a lot more focused on it really learning about the not so obvious establishment, what if they if the if the Republican Party had circled the wagons around us at at the time and pretended to be on our side, I would have been I would have been none the wiser, they could have captured me easily.

So in many ways, I consider myself fortunate that I sort of sort of learned the hard way about the not so obvious establishment, but then learn more thoroughly through through learning under Dr. Shiva. And then ever since then, whenever someone has has shown me Hey, what about what about this guy? He’s he’s doing something? Are you saying the right thing? Or what about these other people? They’re building a movement over here.

One of the things that I that I immediately think of as like, are they actually building a movement? Are they just talking and talking and talking and talking and talking? Do they actually get on the ground? Do they actually provide solutions? Because I’ve seen Dr. Shiva do all of that constantly. I’ve seen him like when we were out there on the campaign gathering signatures for the nomination papers, he’d be right there with us in front of Whole Foods or in front of a supermarket.

And in the freezing cold gathering signatures, they’re there with us. And he would be training us on how to how to do it. Hey, here’s how you approach someone.

Here’s how you know how you talk to them. Here’s how you get a signature. He’s he, again, he doesn’t tell you to do anything that he hasn’t already done himself.

So So that’s so that’s the first thing does he leads from the front of us right there with his troops in the trenches, you might say? And so that’s become the standard that I’ve got, I start to judge anybody else again. Oh, look at this other guy who’s saying this cool clip on social media. Okay, are they on the ground? Are they building a movement? Are they do they have other people do their dirty work? Or do they fly it most people don’t even do that most people just are staying on the internet saying like giving their hot takes.

And then say somebody has to do something about it really somebody you’ve got like a million followers, and you can’t organize them into a movement. So basically, so basically, that’s like, like, we’re shadow banned. And we’re still doing all this stuff.

Anyway, we’ve got we have far more real world on the ground influence than all of these so called influencers when they have much bigger audiences, we actually have, we actually are forging our audience into a ground force. And you all should get involved at Shiva for trips and health.

com. Stop sitting on the sidelines, and just consuming the knowledge that we’re giving you actually start to teach others. But yeah, that’s, that’s, that’s basically become the standardDr.

SHIVA Ayyadurai 1:18:29that I have. I think the I think the other thing that you’re leaving out of this, John is John, you know, we have hundreds of 1000s of people, if you John is a has become bottoms up a leader. And you could probably say if you look at the quote unquote, org chart, John’s probably got, you know, probably 10s of 1000s of people he’s ultimately responsible for now.

And that’s a 29 year old person. Okay. So I just want to let everyone know that what we enclosing on this topic about governance, you know, we’ve talked about wisdom, communication, trust, solving problems, and walking the walk.

And you won’t hear this anywhere else. Particularly anything embedded from the concept of you have to walk the walk. And I would urge all of you as we close this, this townhall for Shiva for president on governance.

Look at people if they walk the walk, anyone can say whatever. Elon Musk can one day say he’s for free speech. And he’s against the World Economic Forum.

And then the next day hire the person who ran the World Economic Forum to be the head of Twitter, which is going to be the worst form of sense. And he right now is conducting worse censorship than ever before, by putting people in these digital cages. Donald Trump can say yeah, I’m gonna lock her up.

And the next day, he does nothing to her. He can talk about he’s going to drain the swamp and he brings in the swamp We live in this total world, what I call I did a talk on this called the Great Deception. The Great Deception is that those in power have gotten away with the rapid news cycle for you to accept their lack of integrity on everything.

They literally believe the masses, as they say. And I’ve heard them say this, the masses are assets. And that’s what they believe.

They have no respect for everyday people. So this is why they are so cavalier about saying one thing, literally within seconds, and then going to doing the exact opposite, and then building a brand as though they’re here to help you. You mean Elon Musk gets all this view time, as though he’s a fighter against evil? Are you serious? That guy is pure evil.

But we live in this world of total duplicity right now, and the only way out of it, what I call real governance is you, you learning and you absorbing these attributes of wisdom, communication, trust, solving problems, and walking the walk. That’s it. Now, the great thing is our run for president.

And our movement has created this wonderful community where we will keep you honest, so you don’t bullshit yourself and compromise these very important principles. So anyway, this is the townhall for Shiva for president and governance. And before we close, John, I will take three questions on this issue about governance.

And any of the things I’ve shared today. Who has any questions? Or John, if there’s not a question, you can read anything off stream yard? But go ahead? Yep, I canJohn Medlar 1:21:48read off social media or zoom. But ifDr.

SHIVA Ayyadurai 1:21:51anyone wants on Zoom, you can click on the hand and you can raise your hand, wave your hand. But go ahead, John, let’s take three questions. All right.

I’m looking for some not seeing any yet. There’s some in the chat, I think.1:22:07Bunch of sources.

Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai 1:22:12Yeah, so Nicole has a very good point, Nicole. She goes, Founding Fathers warned about the dangers of leadership.

Without morals. It’s a really, really great point you’re bringing up Nicole, because, you know, there was a time in high school, they said they have a class called ethics. Right? They don’t teach any of this anymore.

So you literally have these people who have who it really is a fifth point here, who really spit on this whole concept of walking the walk. And the greatness of America came from people who did walk the walk, hard working people came here, and all of that is being destroyed. And that’s why going back to that curve, the life expectancy is going down.

It’s directly because people say one thing and they go do completely something else. Let’s look at another one here. John, you can read off.

There’s anyone else. Lynne is sayingJohn Medlar 1:23:06that she’s going to apply that competency and integrity graph to people that she suspects of being the not so obvious establishment.Dr.

SHIVA Ayyadurai 1:23:15Yeah, you can apply that we actually did a very nice matrix, which we’ll teach people about. But if you look at the you can look at if you take a systems approach, then you can literally in a very objective and tangible way, understand why these people are misleading errs, for example, the next phase of those in power, profit and control those people want that is they’re going to bring together a number very, and they’re already doing it. They’re going to bring together the climate change scam.

Combined with moving everyone to digital currency, combined with government censorship infrastructure, combined with onerous mandates. And if you look at any one of these candidates, you will find out that they may say one thing over here, but you’ll see the contradiction. You know, this guy Kennedy, for example, totally supports a climate change scam.

Elon Musk supports a climate change scam, you say. And you’ll find out that any one of these people supports one or four of all of these things. Trump is the one who created Siza, the cybersecurity infrastructure security agency, which created the end run around the First Amendment.

And all of these people all have shit on their hands, all of them. They all do. That’s why you that’s why we need a systems overhaul because none of them have any integrity.

Go back to 1980 Till today. And you’ll find out that Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican, be it politicians be the academics, be it the people in media, all of them haven’t been part of this dismissal leadership, which has resulted in the destruction of the American people’s health. So why are we going to choose any of them as the lesser of two evils? In fact, the whole concept of the lesser of two evils is fundamentally against governance.

It’s fundamentally against anything that’s ethical. If you think about it, lesser of two evils. I mean, how low of a standard can you get? Imagine if you’re a parent, oh, well, Johnny got a D minus, I’m glad he didn’t get an F.

Are you serious? I mean, this is a level of, that’s not the lesser of two evils. You have an idiot. Okay, the guy better if I were a parent, you’d be treated very differently.

I wouldn’t let him out of his room until he finished his extra problems and homework and but we’re letting these guys get away between we think a d minus is better than an F. And it’s very, very low standards that we’ve set. So anyway, everyone, we have a huge opportunity.

Not only we but you specifically, you have a huge opportunity to grow yourself as a human being. And ultimately, my run for president and our movement is about you. It’s about you, raising your consciousness, and you don’t need everyone to raise their consciousness to the level that we’re talking about.

But if you have sufficient people, it’s game set match. It really is. And that’s why I wanted to do this talk today because we really want to support leaders.

All right, everyone, stay on your don’t leave. John. I’m going to sign off off of stream yard.

Thank you everyone that ends our town hall for Shiva for President. We’re going to continue with our truth freedom and health event here on Zoom. Thank you, everyone.

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