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In this discussion, Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, MIT PhD, Inventor of Email, answers questions about his invention of the world’s first email system in 1978 as a 14 year old boy, his recent proposal to serve as CEO of Twitter following Elon Musk’s announcement of resignation, and how he would uncompromisingly fight for Free Speech as CEO of Twitter.

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A number of executives have expressed interest in being the next CEO of social media giant Twitter. One of them is Dr. Shiva DeRay, who’s a PhD from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Here is a tweet from him where he expressed interest in joining and becoming the next CEO of Twitter says Dear Mr. Musk, and he tagged Elon Musk. I am interested in the CEO position of Twitter, four degrees from MIT and have created seven successful high tech software companies kindly advise of the process to apply sincerely, Dr.

Shiva is a dry MIT PhD, and of course, the title, the inventor of email here, we’re joined now from Cambridge, Massachusetts by Dr. Shiva, who he calls himself the inventor of email sciences technologies is an innovator, author, entrepreneur, Chairman and CEO of cytosol, Inc. Good morning, sir.

Thank you so much for joining us. So I do want to before we get to Twitter, I do want us to address this issue of email that’s been going back and forth, whether you were the original creator or if it’s the deceased Mr. Tomlinson, can you can you clear this off for us as far as your slide as to who created the email?Well, there’s no controversy that I invented email in 1978.

I was the first to convert the entire interoffice mail system, you know, the inbox outbox folders, the entire paper based system into the electronic version, I was the first to name that system, email, and I was the first to get the United States copyright on August 30 1982, officially recognizing me as the inventor of email, at a time when copyright was the only way to protect software inventions. The real issue is why is Ray Tomlinson even called the inventor of email, because all he did was write in 15 minutes of code, Caveman version of Reddit. The real question is, why is there this controversy? And I believe this leads back to something that others have actually called me, and we’ll talk about that it leads back to this issue of white supremacy to think that all great inventions must come from the military industrial complex, and, frankly, white people.

And that’s where this comes from. The facts of this are so obvious. There’s not even a gray area here.

It’s black and white that I invented email as a 14 year old kid in Newark, New Jersey before I came to MIT. And that also bothers people because this was done before MIT, everyone thinks that you have to go to MIT or Harvard, and then you get anointed as a inventor, but the facts are black and white on this. Ray Tomlinson did not invent email.

And to be clear, I’ve never said I invented electronic messaging, which dates back to Samuel Morse, you know, in the 1800s. I invented the system, email as we know and use it today, period.All right.

All right. Now, just one more The New York Times when Tomlinson passed away, the New York Times wrote an obituary, and they mentioned him as the creator of email. So you would dispute that New York Times obituary?Well go look at what CBS wrote and go look at what time magazine wrote.

The bottom line is the New York Times is conflating electronic messaging with email. And you have to understand that Ray Tomlinson, and the ad symbol was used by Raytheon, one of the largest military companies, when they were getting into the cybersecurity market, falsely branding themselves as the inventors of email, the CEO of Raytheon actually wrote a book on integrity and found out the entire book was plagiarized. So you know, the New York Times has written a lot of fake news for many, many years.

And this is another example of it.All right, gotcha. It’s all a dispute that, of course, about the New York Times writing fake news, but no, no, well, no problem.

We’ll we’ll move on to the next question here. So you have multiple degrees you have you know, you’d say you’ve invented at least what we know as email. Why are you applying for the job for Twitter CEO why? Why do you want to take on that role?Well look beyond the invention of email many of the other creations beyond all those degrees.

I’ve also been a fighter for free speech and protecting the First Amendment since I was 17 years old. It was my lawsuit on on October 30, of 2022 years ago, when I was running for United States Senate and I had criticized the government for deleting valid images violating federal law in Massachusetts, that I was deep platformed from Twitter. This is in starting October 30 2020.

In that lawsuit, it was my lawsuit where I represented myself against seven lawyers that we discovered that the government of the United States has a portal to Twitter where allows the government to do an end run around the First Amendment. This was long before the Twitter files. And what’s unfortunate is all of the quote unquote conservative media Grifters now talking about Twitter files, concealed what we discovered back in 2020, but it was our lawsuit that discovered the Government portal into Twitter.

And I believe that as long as that Government portal exists, not only to Twitter and to all social media companies, there is no First Amendment the United States is so you’re looking at someone who’s not only an inventor and a creator and a technologist, but actually someone who’s deeply passionate and has been an activist on the ground and defended the First Amendment over and over and over again. And that’s why I believe that Twitter deserves a CEO who not just in words, but in deeds has fought the first thought for the First Amendment.And just to be clear, 2020 That was during the Trump administration? Yes.

This is well, I, you know, this was in September of 2020. The primary we discovered this long before Trump, you know, frankly, I’ve been also critical of Trump, Trump has talked about, you know, government censorship and election fraud. But if you actually look at it, Trump is the one who signed into law Siza, which actually implemented that government infrastructure to censor speech.

So both Republicans and Democrats have been behind this in the United States. And it’s basically the working people in this country who really need to get together to recognize that free speech has been dismantled, with the advent of these portals and government, big tech, censorship relationships.Now, how would you bring back advertisers to Twitter? How would you make the company profit? Because this this matter of free speech with what we’ve seen Elon Musk discuss? I mean, it shows that advertisers have been have been pushed away.

So if you’re an advocate for free speech, how do you bring God you make advertisers comfortable to come back to the platform? And I mean, we’re looking at chart here, Twitter’s Ad Management desktop visits by month this is from, I think, the from similar web, which was published in The Wall Street Journal. And yeah, it’s those the drops. So how would you bring them back and make the company profitable?Yeah, it’s a great question.

Look, if you go back to the fundamental history of these platforms, right infrastructure for speech, go back to 1787, when the founders of the United States created the first amendment, they created concomitantly with that something very, very powerful that many people forgotten about the United States Postal Service. Now, even though at that time it was on paper, the principles of the Postal Service were that every individual free speech would equal free reach, could communicate with every other individual, the Postal Service was quite an amazing infrastructure. In 1997, when email volume over two postal mail volume is the inventor of email went to the Postal Service executives, and I said, you must create a public infrastructure for email because private companies were owning people’s email.

So why do I bring this up? You see, ultimately, Twitter as a public square is never going to be successful for free speech. Because of section 230. immunity, the government actually tells Twitter and regulates Twitter in a very fundamental way.

That’s why they get their high valuation, you know, 10 acts of revenue. So the only way to balance free speech to actually deliver free speech and the promise of what this public square is supposed to be, is in many ways to make Twitter a public infrastructure. And I believe that many, many people, given the pervasiveness of Twitter may even pay a very small amount, you know, 10 bucks a year.

And that’s how you actually generate revenue to rely on large corporations to fund this public square is antithetical to the foundations of free speech.Okay, so that that 10 bucks a year, isn’t that similar to the $8 a month that Elon Musk is pushing with Twitter blue?Yeah, but he’s doing that only for certain category of people, right? You have to be a certain Strada people to get the Twitter blue account. My model is that you give it to everyone.

When you send a little postal mail, it’s an agreement has been made. Like in the United States, for example, every letter that’s transmitted is protected by the US Postal Service’s very powerful Foundation, which a lot of people have forgotten about, called a police force, which makes sure that any letter that’s open, people can get 22 years in prison, the encryption all of these aren’t going to solve that we need to make Twitter a truly Public Square, in many ways for first amendment for all people throughout the world, not just the United States, you know, only 4% of the world today experiences the First Amendment. Most of the Commonwealth countries, a Europe UK do not believe in the First Amendment.

So imagine if Twitter could actually be a platform for delivering real free speech to all the world right now. What happens is every government essentially forces Twitter to do these agreements. So they actually spy and surveil people.

And you have to wonder, you know, Elon Musk’s, if you look at his entire foundation of his revenue structure, you know, where Elon Musk begins and where government ends, very few people know. So we have to break from that and essentially, create an environment where twitter twitter truly becomes a public square financially, as well as you know, politically,Alright, great stuff that Dr. Shivani got about a minute to go here.

You really seem really emphasized interest in emphasizing free speech, but what about innovation, new products and new services that can draw people Will to Twitter to entice them to pay that $10 a year that you’re proposing as if you had to get the job as CEO. What are the innovations? Have you thought about? Will you will you bro those out to bring people to Twitter, in addition to the Free Speech part?Well, look, one of the most important things is that the entire infrastructure of Twitter itself must be decentralized at a fundamental level, all of these platforms, if you look at it, when the internet first came to being in the 1990s, the web came into being in 1993. It was a profound event.

But the goal was, each one of us would have our own infrastructures. We build our own websites, right? It was, you know, there’s a book that I wrote many years ago, because I also have a degree in art arts and the internet. This is 93.

And the idea that I was sharing with people was the internet would really eliminate gatekeepers. What’s happened starting in 2000, you had the consolidation of content, Facebook, you know, with Google, and now with Twitter, one of the foundational things that I would do is to make sure the actual infrastructure of Twitter is highly decentralized, which means servers capabilities are literally decentralized across communities, and that it is integrated with what I call wi Max and mesh network. So Twitter then becomes a framework for a network of the People By the People.

All right, Dr. Shiva, we wish you the best of luck in your application. Thank you so much for taking time to talk to us and we appreciate your time.

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