In this discussion, Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, MIT PhD, The Inventor of Email, explains why everyone must learn the science of system to free themselves and not be fooled.
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KEY POINTS:
- Dr.SHIVA explains why everyone must learn Systems Science to liberate themselves and to defend against the brainwashing of those in power.
- The elites who desire power profit control use Systems Science to manipulate working people’s perception of truth to divide them into left & right and keep them fighting each other.
- Institutions like the Military-Industrial-Academic Complex of places like Harvard, MIT, and Raytheon have built a narrative that only elite institutions like them are capable of creating great innovations and that most great innovations come from war.
- The Military-Industrial-Academic Complex deliberately buries stories of innovation, such as a young 14-year-old boy’s invention of Email in Newark New Jersey in 1972, or another 14-year-old boy’s invention of the television, and steals their inventions for themselves.
- Controlled mass media are used to brainwash these narratives into the minds of working people to keep them from innovating ways to go beyond the left/right paradigm and actually solve real problems.
- Only a bottom’s up movement of working people armed with the Science of Systems can overcome the machinations of those in power and achieve Truth Freedom Health®.
Dr.SHIVA explains why everyone must learn Systems Science to liberate themselves and to defend against the brainwashing of those in power.
Our goal is to teach people the System’s Approach and it’s not to convert people or to convince people. It’s more like saying do you understand physics?
Once people understand this, they themselves can become their own masters or teachers, and they can educate their communities and lift people’s consciousness.
That’s what Truth Freedom Health® is. It’s literally a system that teaches people systems so they don’t have to blindly follow other people.
So, we can create a more educated group of people who are not relying on governments or those kinds of people to give them poor education. They can start learning themselves, how everything actually operates fundamentally and apply it.
My view is that without knowledge of systems, it is very easy to fool people in the modern world. The universe doesn’t work with left or right, and there is no pro or anti.
The universe is based on fundamental principles, the movement of information, matter and energy. Which we call transport and the conversion of information matter and energy, which we call the conversion process.
In the Indian system, they called it vata, pitta, and kapha. If you look at Chinese medicine, these principles came out in the concept of the flow of water or when that was motion, or the conversion process.
Some were the fire process, or the storage process, which was really the wood or metal process, and Chinese medicine. The traditional systems of medicine had these principles.
Take these ancient principles, and look at modern engineering systems science then blend them together to create a curriculum that gets you to pure truth. With a framework so people can now start to see politics in terms of transport, conversion and storage the same as freedom, truth and health.
When you have freedom, you have to be able to have discourse and discussion. It’s through discussion and discourse that we actually get to the truth. And truth is a scientific method.
You apply science, you test different things, you find out what works and what doesn’t. When you have truth and freedom, you get to real health, and with real health, you have the strength to fight for freedom and truth.
What’s happening in the world, unfortunately, is that we have freedom and truth being attacked. When you do that, you don’t get healthy people or healthy infrastructure.
And what happens is when you don’t have healthy people, they don’t have the strength to fight for a truth or freedom.
The elites who desire power profit control use Systems Science to manipulate working people’s perception of truth to divide them into left & right and keep them fighting each other.
When the elite’s goal is power, profit and control one needs a Systems Approach. This system helps give people the opportunity to see things as they truly are, not how you want them to be.
The Truth Freedom Health® system assists people to actually get smarter, because they can start seeing connections between things.
What’s happening now is those in power, they take any issue and they want to make it left & right or pro & anti. They don’t want people to actually see the whole and what is the truth for them.
You don’t have to go to MIT to understand System Science. But when you go through this site, you will see that we’re actually solving this very interesting problem today.
We have lots and lots of information right at people’s fingertips. So, you would think with more information, people are going to get smarter, wiser and have more truth or more freedom?
The reality is, with more information, 650 million people are more anxious and depressed right now. 51% of people in the world feel hopeless. 25% or more people want to overthrow their governments.
Two and a half billion people are obese right now. 52% of people are completely confused on what to eat or to avoid. And 95% of people have health problems, that doesn’t mean more information is solving problems.
In fact, what it’s doing if you look at this information pyramid, is that those in power are actually breeding ignorance. Because in many of the traditional systems you were taught to see the whole. A wholistic approach.
Now people are teaching people an ignorant approach of only seeing the parts. People get into an illusion, where they get confused and get desperate.
When the elites are dividing people into left & right. Or people just say forget it, and they just moved to the forest and don’t want to do anything.
This is this current system, and what this is doing is creating people into division, complacency and desperation, right. People have people thinking that gurus or Bernie Sanders, or these talking heads, or people grifting are going to solve this.
Reality is that the only way out of this, is if we get wisdom. And wisdom comes from knowledge, which is different from information, which is why we need to learn the Science of Systems.
The elites, those who rule the world, like George Soros, or people who work for the biggest governments, they all know the Science of Systems. I learned that at MIT and about 10,000 people in the world know the Science of Systems.
My intention here has been to take all that knowledge and put it into a curriculum so that anyone can learn it no matter your background.
Institutions like the Military-Industrial-Academic Complex of places like Harvard, MIT, and Raytheon have built a narrative that only elite institutions like them are capable of creating great innovations and that most great innovations come from war.
The invention of email is the most powerful story because it exposes not just the fact that a 14 year old boy invented email, but it exposes the elites. That all great innovations must come from war must come from big business and must come from big universities.
30 years ago, Dr.Shiva didn’t promote himself. They had found a white guy with glasses and a beard and he fit the narrative of a nerd who had simply done text messaging.
Raytheon, the defense company, had branded him as the inventor of email when Dr.Shiva’s documents went into the Smithsonian and the abuse that he underwent was disgusting.
The problem is you weren’t allowed to do software patents in 1978. Copyright doesn’t protect all the parts by design.
Dr.Shiva’s system went into the Library of Congress, and then other people started replicating it. Look at everything Dr.Shiva had in his system. It’s all the same parts.
These historians, many liberal historians, wanted to denigrate the fact that email wasn’t invented at MIT, Harvard or by the military. While, in fact, it was created in Newark.
The narrative they pitch is that all great innovations must come from after you go to MIT and Harvard. You can drop out of Harvard, like Zuckerberg, OR gates, and then you’re anointed as someone intelligent.
Dr.Shiva invented many things when he was at MIT, but he said email was invented before he went to MIT. This is dangerous, because it means innovation can occur anytime, anyplace by anybody.
He sued Gawker Media, he drove them into bankruptcy. They said a curry stain Indian should be beaten and hanged for even claiming this. Even though he has four degrees at MIT, Fulbright Scholar and been on the front page of MIT.
Yet on Wikipedia they called him a conspiracy theorist. A Wikipedia editor wrote to him and said, “I attempted to give you credit for the invention of email.” All of this because email was invented before he went to MIT.
This is very fundamental and is disgusting nonsense because if he was blond haired, blue eyed. Sad, as maybe if my last name was a Jewish name. He would be on every stamp in the United States, guaranteed, as the inventor of Email from MIT.
The Military-Industrial-Academic Complex deliberately buries stories of innovation, such as a young 14-year-old boy’s invention of Email in Newark New Jersey in 1972, or another 14-year-old boy’s invention of the television, and steals their inventions for themselves.
Walter Isaacson, the liberal elite during in 2015, he wrote a big book, called the innovators of the digital revolution is an email part of the digital revolution. In his book, he talks about all the great inventions of the internet, but he left out email.
All the people in the book are all white people. It’s not against white people, but everyone is a white person who invented stuff. No yellow people, no brown people, no black people.
While all of those people were from the military industrial complex, big universities, big military. The truth is that if you create something out of the elites. Great innovations must come after you go to MIT and you get anointed.
The problem they have with Dr.Shiva is he went to MIT, he created many things. But he also did stuff before I came to MIT. And typically people like him are dead before they write the histories or better yet after they write the history. Or in this case the person they gave it to is gone.
There was a Michigan mechanic who created the windshield wiper. Regular working person. There was a 14 year old boy Philo Farnsworth who created a TV. It’s only 60 years later, that it took them to give them the credit he deserves.
Everyone should recognize that the invention of email is really about your child and his future because it says that he does not need to go to MIT and Harvard or Silicon Valley and then he gets credit.
Controlled mass media are used to brainwash these narratives into the minds of working people to keep them from innovating ways to go beyond the left/right paradigm and actually solve real problems.
They’re making money off working people, and working people need to get smart. We are brainwashed every microsecond, by Hollywood by revering celebrities, by reviewing these talking heads.
They want the left versus right, pro versus anti on every issue, because the media makes money, because then it becomes drama and theater.
The Democrats have Bernie Sanders and the AOC, who will sometimes even attack Hillary Clinton, right? But when push comes to shove, they’ll just get the masses riled up, it’s all theater.
But at the end of the day, they’ll say, we have to be Trump, we have to support Hillary.
On the right, you have the same things. You have the right wing versions of it, who also rile people up. But when push comes to shove, I’ll guarantee you, they’ll say, “oh, yeah, we got to support the Republicans or the Democrats”.
In 1984, a guy called Jesse Jackson ran in something called the rainbow movement. And he got a lot of people excited, like he was anti establishment, he really wanted freedom and all this.
At the last minute, he gave all of his votes to Walter Mondale, and he said, the lesser of “two evils”. You’ve heard of this, the lesser of two evils. This is a way that they’ve manipulated the masses on the left & the right.
They get working people excited, and at the last minute, they bring them back into the establishment. Obama does this, the AOC does this, Bernie does this, but so does the right wing, both do it.
Trump ran on a thing of “lock her up.” Remember that? Lock her up? Nothing happened, now we move beyond that and people have to see that.
You also may remember Dr.Shiva filed a lawsuit in federal court and we exposed that on October 30th of 2020. We won a major lawsuit that showed the government has a collusion with Twitter.
It is not Big Tech that works on their own, but the government and Twitter work together.
He was thrown off Twitter when he exposed that ballot images were being deleted in Massachusetts.
Here in the United States, we act like the Big Tech works independent of the government, but they’re actually one. We exposed that, again, nothing in the mainstream media.
Only a bottom’s up movement of working people armed with the Science of Systems can overcome the machinations of those in power and achieve Truth Freedom Health®.
We have figured out the Science of Systems, so people can think for themselves and go beyond left and right. That technology, that infrastructure, is in a very humble way a platform that we’ve created, so people now have a choice.
Do you want to remain on that dog chasing the tail? Or do you want to get educated or remain enslaved? Do you want to be smart? Or do you want to remain dumb? It’s that simple.
That’s what Truth Freedom Health® is, and the elites have a nuclear weapon, they understand the Science of Systems. Everyday working people are walking around with bows and arrows, and they’re never gonna be able to defeat them.
Dr.Shiva fortunately was able to learn all this stuff and we’ve been able to make this a gift to working people. We want to ensure that people at least have a fighting chance. The goal is, do you want to be educated? Or do you want to be enslaved?
Do you want to have self respect for yourself? Do you want to be accountable? Do you want to be an adult and you truly care for your children? Or do you want to play the stupid game all day long?
Build a bottoms up movement. Get politically astute and then go locally and act not sit there on social media. Act locally, defy locally, do civil obedience locally, but with knowledge on how to build a movement.
There are people who have taken the course many times, they can take it as many times and more importantly, we’ve created a community. First you learn the theory of systems and then every Thursday, at 11am and 8pm we do community meetings, because you learn and then we ask people to get on the ground and talk to their neighbors.
TRANSCRIPT
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Okay, wonderful. Yeah, let’s
just go right into it. Dr.Shiva,
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welcome to the show.
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Good. How are you doing?
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Great. Yeah. So great to have
you on our show. And so as I
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understand it. So first of all,
you know, because I think a lot
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of our audience get to know you
back in 2020. election, but at
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that time, a lot of people don’t
know is that you are actually
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the Inventor of email.
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Yes, that’s true.
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Yeah, so maybe, you know, I
think it’s really amazing. I
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think it’d be amazing for our
audience to get to know you more
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about your life prior to the
election. And yesterday, like,
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Yeah, I think, is it like the
40th anniversary of the
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invention of the email?
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Yeah, it’s the 40th anniversary
of the invention of email. And,
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you know, just to give you the
background on this, you know,
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I’ve been involved Cathy, in
really understanding systems.
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And if you think about email,
email was a system. It’s not
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like the simple exchange of text
messages. You know, on
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electrical electronic device, if
you go back to, you know, the
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1800s. With Morse code, you
could exchange simple text
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messages, right? Or the
teletype. Email is something
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completely different email is
actually a system. And a lot of
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people over the age of 40 will
remember that in it, you may
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remember this all over the
world, every organization, there
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were two ways in the 1970s, or
before the internet really
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became a consumer good. That
people communicated, right. They
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use the telephone, remember, the
hard wired telephone, not the
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cell phone. And we had in
organizations this thing called
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the interoffice mail system,
right? And on that interoffice
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mail system, if I can share my
screen, I can show you some
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pictures if you want, but if
not, it’s okay. Can I share my
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screen here?
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Yeah, sure.
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Yeah, I think I need to be
allowed to share, share the
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screen. But if you allow me to
share the screen, I can show
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it’s not allowed. Yeah, yeah. If
you can allow me to share the
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screen. I can show. Yeah.
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I need let me call my assistant
because I know I cannot reach
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over.
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Yeah, that’s okay. Whoever’s
running zoom, if they could just
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say screen sharing. But anyway,
the interoffice mail system was
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something quite interesting. The
interoffice mail system allowed
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people to communicate using
paper based email. So in an
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organization, the way people
communicated, was they didn’t
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use, you know, they didn’t have
the traditional. They didn’t
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have email then. Right. So they
used to write these paper memos.
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And those paper memos would be
constructed by a secretary and a
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secretary write a memo to from
subject. And on her desktop, she
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had the inbox and the outbox,
beneath her desk was a trash
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can. And she would write these
memos and put them into an
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envelope. And they were sent
around in these pneumatic tubes,
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was a very complex system. If
she had to carbon copy, let’s
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say I was going to hire you,
Cathy, I would write a memo to
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your boss, I would attach your
resume and I would maybe carbon
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copy human resources and other
people. Right. So this was the
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interoffice mail system. And I
was asked as a 14 year old kid,
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to convert this entire system to
the electronic version. And it’s
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important to understand that
electronic version is what I
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created of that that entire
system. Now I was working at
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that medical school, believe it
or not, as a 14 year old
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Research Fellow. And
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Where were you at?
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Rutgers Medical School in
Newark, New Jersey, you see in
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1970, for your audience to
understand I had come from
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India, as a seven year old kid.
I was deeply interested in
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medicine. And I was also very
much interested in political
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systems, believe it or not as a
kid because I grew up in an
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India, which had the caste
system, where people were judged
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not by what they did, but which
family they were born into. It
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was called the Indian caste
system, you may be aware of it.
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So my parents were very
fortunate to escape that caste
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system and come to America. But
I also grew up in an environment
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where my grandmother practiced
Traditional Systems of Healing,
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like similar to Traditional
Chinese Medicine. There’s an
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Indian form of Medicine called
Siddha. So I grew up watching
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her be a Healer, use this
Ancient System of Medicine to
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heal people in the villages, but
I also was, you know, exposed to
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the fact that there was this
political system, which was
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frankly not correct. So as a
kid, I was very interested in
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Systems, my family moved over
here to the United States. When
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I was seven, I was very
motivated to study hard. And by
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the time I was 14, I’d gone to
New York University on a
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separate Computer Science
program. And while in high
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school, I got a job working full
time at a medical school, doing
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medical research on why babies
were dying in their sleep. So I
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was doing using computers to
mathematically model sleep. But
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at the same time, because of my
programming skills, I got hired
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to convert this entire
interoffice mail system into the
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electronic form, Cathy, that’s
what I did. So I converted the
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inbox, the outbox, the folders,
Blind Carbon Copy, CC, BCC,
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attachments, a whole thing into
a System. And I wrote 40,000 –
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50,000 lines of code. And I
named that System email. So not
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only that was no one had ever
done this before. I was the
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first to create that System, and
call it email at a time when
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computers had very little
memory. And then I moved all the
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Secretaries from the key from
the typewriter to the keyboard.
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In those days, women were
basically told they could only
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be a Secretary, right? Or
Housewife, or a Teacher, or
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essentially, could be a Nurse.
Right? Those were the jobs for
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women. So email, literally
liberated these women from the
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typewriter, to the keyboard, no
one had ever done this. So I did
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email invented it before I came
to MIT. And the other important
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thing to understand was when I
came to MIT, Cathy, the
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president of MIT, who was on the
are you there? So Cathy?
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Yes. Yeah,
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I wasn’t sure.
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Yeah, right. Now, I think you
can share your screen.
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Yeah. So let me let me share my
screen here. So if you go to
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this side here, it’s called the
inventor of email. Let me go to
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it. And you will see this is
what real secretaries right had
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this thing called the desktop,
right? If you remember right
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here, and this was a memo,
right? And this was the
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interoffice mail envelopes. am I
sharing?
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Right? Right?
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Yes. Am I sharing with you right
now.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. I can, I can
see. Yeah.
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Yeah. And that was interoffice
mail envelope that was used in
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those days. And, and so e mail
was a vehicle for people to
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communicate, right. And they had
these pneumatic tubes, you see
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that? And so I converted this
entire system, let me go to,
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there’s a site called
Inventorofemail.com, that you
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can, you know, find later. And
so when I came to MIT, this was
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on the front page of MIT, we
created this website, to educate
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people. And the president of MIT
was on the science advisory, the
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White House Science Council’s
name was Paul Gray Reagan, this
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is a 1981. And he said, It’s too
bad that you cannot patent
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software. The congress people,
the legislators in Congress
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didn’t even know what software
was Cathy, that’s how software
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was new. So there’s no, but in
1980, which I didn’t know, there
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was a law passed that you could
use copyright to protect
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software. So I as a kid wrote
away for the to do that. And on
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August 30, 1982, I received the
official copyright, recognizing
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me as the Inventor of email.
Here’s that copyright notice,
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you can see August 30, 1982, it
was you had to send all your
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code, it was a pretty long
process. So I wrote all the code
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named it email, and I have the
US copyright for it. Yes. So I
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did invent email before I came
to MIT. That’s what’s important.
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So MIT, so there’s been some
myth around this because I never
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promoted it was only about 10
years ago, when my mom was dying
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of a horrible disease called
pulmonary fibrosis, that all my
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stuff went into the Smithsonian.
And it created.
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And that’s when the world knew
who invented email. And some
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people didn’t like it, because
it there was a false history,
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which said, email came out of
the military. The problem is
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Cathy, the military industrial
complex, likes to create the
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fiction that all great
innovations come from war.
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Right? You kill people and you
innovate things. But the truth
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is, email, which is one of the
profound innovations of our
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time, was invented by a 14 year
old immigrant kid in Newark, New
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Jersey, which is a very poor
city, not for war, but for a
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civilian problem. Helping
secretaries communicate in the
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interoffice mail environment. So
but you know, the important
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thing is, as a kid, I had a deep
love of medicine systems, but
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also I learned Systems Science.
And today, you know, and I went
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on to invent many other things
while at MIT. I invented
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Echomail a system for
automatically analyzing email, I
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did it for the White House. And
we built a big company, I
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created one of the first arts
communities online for artists
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to communicate and put their
wares back in 93. And then most
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recently, one, I created a
system for automatically
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analyzing diseases on the
computer mathematically modeling
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diseases, to discover how many
of our traditional medicines in
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China and India work. So we
could eliminate the need for
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animal testing. That’s called
CytoSolve. And the biggest I
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think, important innovation
right now is Truth, Freedom and
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Health. Truth, Freedom and
Health. Cathy’s literally a
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system that we have created that
allows anyone to actually get
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smarter, believe it or not,
okay? What what truth freedom
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health allows people to do is to
actually understand how
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political systems work. Can you
see this? Yeah, so truth,
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freedom and health is literally
a system we say get educated or
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be enslaved. And it says, A man
who invented email now delivers
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the Truth Freedom Health System.
So what we’re teaching people is
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I’m taking all the 50 years of
knowledge, and I teach people
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System Science, they get all the
books and papers, they also
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understand how their body is a
system, we give them a lot of
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scientific knowledge. We do a
lot of special lectures, we’ve
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created a global community now
of 360,000 people all over the
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world, in 95 countries. And
using this system, people
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actually literally can get
smarter, because they can start
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seeing connections between
things, Cathy, because what’s
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happening now is those in power,
they take any issue and they
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want to make it left and right
or pro or anti. They don’t want
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people to actually see the hole.
And what truth freedom and
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health does, it helps gives
people the opportunity to see
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things as they truly are, not
how you want them to be, but to
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see things as they truly are. So
the Truth, Freedom and Health
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System, when you go through it,
we have many, many everyday
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Working People. So you don’t
have to go to MIT to understand
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System Science.
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But when you go through this
site, which I recommend everyone
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go through, you will, you will
see that we’re actually solving
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this very interesting problem
today, Cathy, we have lots and
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lots of information right at
people’s fingertips. So you
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would think with more
information, people are going to
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get smarter, and wiser and more
truth, more freedom, right? But
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the reality is, with more
information, 650 million people
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are more anxious and depressed
right now. 51% of people in the
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world feel hopeless. 25% or more
people want to overthrow their
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governments. Two and a half
billion people are obese right
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now. 52% of people are
completely confused on what to
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eat or to avoid. And 95% of
people have health problems,
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that doesn’t mean infirm, nor
information is solving problems.
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In fact, what it’s doing is if
you look at this information
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pyramid, in my view, those in
power are actually breeding
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ignorance, because they’re, you
know, in many of the traditional
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systems, you were taught to see
the whole right holistic
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approach. But now people
teaching people an ignorant
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approach of only seeing the
parts. So people get into
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illusion, they get confused. So
either they get desperate, where
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are they we’re dividing people
into left and right. Or people
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just say forget it, and they
just moved to the forest and
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don’t want to do anything. This
is this current system. And, and
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what this is doing is creating
people into division,
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complacency and desperation,
right. So and then people have
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people thinking that gurus or
Bernie Sanders, or these talking
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heads, or people are going to
solve this. And the reality is
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the only way out of this as if
we get wisdom. And wisdom comes
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from knowledge, which is
different than information,
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which is we need to learn the
Science of Systems. And what’s
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important understand Cathy is
the elites, those who rule the
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world, like George Soros, or
people who work for the biggest
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governments, they all know the
Science of Systems, I learned
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that at MIT, about 10,000 people
in the world know the Science of
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Systems. So my intention here
has been to take all that
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knowledge and put it into a
curriculum that anyone can learn
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it. They don’t have to have an
MIT PhD, Cathy. So what we’ve
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done is we’ve in a very nice way
done that. So so this, so this
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is really a technology, okay, if
you can think about it. It’s a
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technology where people
literally within hours, they can
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learn 20 years of MIT knowledge,
they can understand what a
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system is, we’ve put it into a
course, people can get the book
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to learn how their body’s a
system, everything is a system
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Cathy in life. People can
understand the scientific
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theory, I published a paper on
this linking Eastern and Western
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Medicine and showing that
ultimately, the body is a
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system. And then I created a
tool so everyone can understand
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how the body is a system and
figure out what are the right
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foods and exercise is in fact
the right yoga postures for
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them. So they don’t just blindly
follow a diet. Then they get
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access to scientific research,
we do special lectures every
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once a month, then we’ve also
created a tool where people can
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teach others. And then we have a
whole community now about
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360,000 people globally. And
then we create tools, so people
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can also educate others. And
then we’ve created a lot of
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technologies like the forum for
people to communicate
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independent of Facebook, and
other things. So that’s the
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latest thing I’ve been working
on Cathy, which sort of goes
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beyond email, email was the
system. Truth Freedom Health is
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also a system, if that makes
any, if that, if I’m being clear
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on that.
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Okay. Okay. So very interesting.
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Yeah. So that’s what we’ve done.
Our goal has been to create a
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world where people can become
their own gurus, you know, so
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they don’t have to blindly
follow other people. That’s been
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really the goal here. So we can
create a more educated group of
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people who are not relying on,
you know, governments or those
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kind of people to give them
education, they can start
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learning themselves, how
everything actually operates
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fundamentally.
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So how long do you think people
need to learn to grasp?
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Well? Well, it’s a great
question. You know, there are
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people who have taken, we make
everything open, people can come
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as many they can take it as many
times more importantly, we’ve
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created a community. First you
learn the Theory of Systems.
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Then every Thursday’s, like this
Thursday, at 11am & 8pm. We do
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community meetings, because you
learn and then we ask people to
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get on the ground and talk to
their neighbors. So we take
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different issues, Cathy, like
the pandemic issue or the
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elections issue, or wearing
masks or not, right? Every major
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issue we take, and we put it on
little cards, where people can
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really go beyond left or right.
And we want people to go share
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this with others. The bottom
line is you can’t just be taking
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knowledge and just keeping it
for yourself. We want people to
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share knowledge with others.
It’s called a learn, teach and
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serve model, if that makes any
sense. So you learn and then you
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teach, and others learn. So it’s
a very, very important way for
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people to learn, actually. So
when you teach actually, you
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learn a lot more than if you
just keep it to yourself. So let
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me stop sharing. Maybe How do I
stop sharing here? I think you
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need to stop me from sharing.
Yes, but that’s what we’ve
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created. Cathy, if that makes
sense. We’ve created an
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environment where anyone can
learn this knowledge, and then
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have everyone else learn it
also. So it’s been great because
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we have people all over the
world who are now learning this
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knowledge. Let me see. I was
sharing it right. You’re able to
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see the screen.
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You were sharing. Yeah. You have
been sharing. Okay. Now,
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Yeah. Okay. Okay, there. We’re
back. Right? Yep. Yeah, yeah. So
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I think the central thing that,
my view is that without the
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Knowledge of Systems, it is
very, very easy to fool people
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in the modern world. Because
what’s happened is that
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ultimately, there is no you
know, the universe doesn’t work
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with left or right. The universe
is no pro or anti. The universe
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is based on fundamental
principles, the movement of
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information matter and energy,
which we call transport, the
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conversion of information matter
and energy, which we call the
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conversion process, or the
structural piece in the Indian
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system, they called it vata,
pitta, kapha, if you look at
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Chinese medicine, this
principles came out in the
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concept of, you know, the flow
of water or when that was
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motion, right, or the conversion
process, which was fire process,
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or the storage process, which
was really the wood or metal
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process, right, and Chinese
medicine. So the traditional
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systems of medicine had these
principles. So what I’ve been
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able to do, Cathy is take these
ancient principles, look at
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Modern Engineering Systems
Science and blend them together
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to create a curriculum that you
get to pure truth, from a
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framework so people can now
start to see politics,
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Transport, Conversion, Storage
is the same as Freedom, Truth,
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and Health. So you have to have
freedom, to be able to have
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discourse and discussion. And it
is through discussion and
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discourse that we actually get
to truth. And truth is a
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Scientific Method, right? You
apply science, you test
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different things, you find out
what works and what doesn’t. And
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when you have truth and freedom,
you get to real health, and with
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real health, you have the
strength to fight for freedom
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and truth. And now what’s
happening in the world,
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unfortunately, is that we have
freedom being attacked. We have
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truth being attacked. And when
you do that, you don’t get
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healthy people. You don’t get
healthy infrastructure. And what
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happens is when you don’t when
you don’t have healthy people,
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they don’t have the strength to
fight for a truth or freedom. So
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our Our goal is to treat teach
people the Systems Approach. And
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my view is, it’s not to convert
people or to convince people.
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It’s more like saying, you know,
do you understand physics,
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right? Once people understand
this, they themselves can become
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their own masters or own
teachers, and they can educate
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their communities and lift
people’s consciousness. So
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that’s what Truth, Freedom and
Health is. It’s literally a
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System that teaches people
Systems. So that’s what’s
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exciting.
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Okay, yeah, just give me one
second. Screens.
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Okay, no worries. Take your
time.
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Okay, yeah, so yeah, it sounds
really just amazing. I just
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don’t because since actually,
that’s my question, but you also
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meant
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We don’t have your video. Right,
Cathy? I don’t see your video.
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Is that the way it’s supposed to
begin? Oh, okay. Oh, I don’t see
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your video. You know,
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I just see it’s on my screen.
Oh, okay.
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All right. I don’t see. Okay. No
worries.
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Oh, you don’t see it?
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Nope. That’s okay.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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But yeah, we’re gonna record it
with Yeah.
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All right.
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Yeah. With me, and you. So yeah,
I have a question with regards
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to what you just mentioned. So
how does principles relates to
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this system? Because right now,
you know, I think, especially in
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this country, it’s very
polarized, right with the, like,
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the, for example, we just heard
this speech by President Biden,
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like, and a lot of people
actually I just saw a poll
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saying that good number of
people, percentage of people in
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the United States think the
dangerous MAGA Republicans is a
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threat to the very foundation of
our republic. On the other hand,
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a lot of conservatives, people
thinking the leftist to
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Democrats, pushing those
socialist communist, even
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communist policies are
threatening our republic. So
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both sides are, you know,
accusing the other side. And,
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you know, the threat of this
republic. So when you say about
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this System, how does that work
with the very polarized?
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Yeah, you asked to make? I think
this is probably the most
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important question. So it’s a
brilliant question you’re asking
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Cathy. And this question
everyone should be asking,
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because what’s happening to the
United States right now? I think
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there was a poll done. That poll
done by the University of
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Chicago about two months ago, it
said 25% of Americans want to
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overthrow their government. I
don’t know if you saw that. And
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then the recent poll said 40%,
okay. And there’s debate on both
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left and right, what so you have
to ask, who is benefiting from
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the United States, left and
right division. And so that’s
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why I believe System Science is
the only way to save the world.
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Let me tell you why. My former
mentor at MIT, his name was Jay
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Forrester. He was a professor at
MIT until 93 years old, he was
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one of the founders of Systems
Theory, the Western Approach,
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okay. And he said, Systems
Science should be taught at the
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kindergarten level why? So if
you take a problem, right, every
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problem today is being made into
a left/right issue. So what the
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left and right are doing,
they’re taking a real problem.
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And then they make it into a
left or right issue. And both
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sides profit from it. Let me
give you an example. Okay, that
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I’m very intimately aware with
if you know, it was our movement
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here in Massachusetts, which
exposed, first expose the issue
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with the election issues, right,
real issues, like the ballot
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images being deleted? Were the
ones who exposed you know, out
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of all the research that was
done, it was the signature
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verification process, which was
finally taken up by the Attorney
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General of Arizona. When I did
that stuff that was in 2020.
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September, no one else even
thought about. They were calling
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it voter fraud. They didn’t call
it election fraud, right?
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election fraud is very simple,
because it’s very different
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because it goes at the system,
systemic issues. When we did
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that, Cathy, I think you guys
did a coverage but no one else
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did. Even the MAGA Republicans
or the Democrats, CNN, nor FOX
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News, no one covered it, because
it wasn’t popular. You say after
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the Trump election, then it
became popular. And you also may
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remember I filed a lawsuit in
federal court and we exposed in
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October 30th of 2020. We won a
major lawsuit that government
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has a collusion with Twitter. It
is not big tech works on their
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own But government and Twitter
work together. And we won a
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major lawsuit because it was
found out that I was thrown off
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Twitter. When I expose that
ballot images were being deleted
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Massachusetts, the government of
Massachusetts, this is like what
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happens in China, right?
Contacted Twitter, at least in
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China there, you don’t lie they,
the government and the
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Censorship is one, right. But
here in the United States, we
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act like the Big Tech works
independent of the government,
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but they’re actually one. So we
expose that, again, nothing in
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the mainstream media. Tucker
Carlson knew about this, he
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didn’t do anything. However, two
years later, or even six months
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later, when the problem is too
late, then the left and the
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right, make Elections Systems
issues, no longer Election
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Systems issues, but Oh, someone
over here is attacking, they
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make up crazy, the right-wing
did not go after the real
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fundamental issues. There are a
lot of Grifters out there,
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Cathy, who made a lot of money,
just talking about crazy ideas.
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And then the left-wing attack
the right-wing, right. So what
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ended up happening was the
election issue became a left and
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right issue. It did not, all the
real issues got thrown under the
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rug. Right. So if you’d say
anything about elections, oh,
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you must be a right-winger,
right? The fundamental Systems
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issues are forgotten. Let me
take another example. The real
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issue with the environment,
there is real issues with the
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environment, which is pollution.
But the left has made CO2 the
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pollution, okay, CO2 is not a
pollutant. It’s not pollution,
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CO2 is necessary for plant
growth. And in fact, the Paris
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Accords, Trump was right to get
out of the Paris Accords, the
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Paris Accords allow China to
double their pollution, India to
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double their pollution. So never
addressed pollution, it made
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CO2, the issue. So what happens
is the the left and the right
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take a very complex issue, like
the Climate System, and they
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make it about one thing, oh,
it’s about CO2, and then they
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build a bogus story around it,
then the left will start sending
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Democrats an email saying, Oh,
give us money, give us money.
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We’re fighting for The Green New
Deal. And that’s what happened
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with the election issue. The
data that we had actually
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compiled was used by a lot of
the people on the right to make
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frankly, half a billion dollars
on elections, but they never
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really wanted to address the
election issue. You take.
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They made money.
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Oh, yeah, they made a lot of
money. Trump man, what’s that?
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How did they get the money?
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Well, because what they do is
they’ll they’ll send an email to
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their followers, right? Give us
donations there. So they take a
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very complex issue. And they
don’t address the real issue,
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they address, oh, we need to
lower CO2, you follow? So,
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Bernie Sanders and AOC will send
emails, oh, we need the green
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New Deal, we need to have we
have to lower CO2. So they scare
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people into fear. And then
people give them money. You
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follow what I’m saying? Through
donations. So for example, in
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November, if you notice, I had
done a lot of the analysis. And
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we got a call from Mark Meadows.
I was here in November 2020. And
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he said, Oh, Dr.SHIVA, we want
you to help us do the analysis.
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I said, Great mark, send us
data. And then Rhonda McDaniel
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from the Republicans called us.
And I said, Great, Rona, send us
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data. They never sent us a data
even though they had the data.
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But they knew my analysis was
going viral on the internet. If
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you remember that time, Cathy.
So people want it to attach
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themselves to the analysis.
We’ve done the MIT PhD doing
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real analysis, people would use
that. And then they would take a
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piece of that and raise money
off of it, or sell pillows off
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of it. Okay. And I know these
people there, they may be nice
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people. But every issue today
has become a left and right
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issue. There is no understanding
of what the real issue is and
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what the real solution is. So
you have to wonder do these
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people really want to solve the
problem? Or do they want to just
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keep the dialectic going? You
say and I’m so for example about
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but I think four months ago,
there’s a left liberal
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investigative news organization
called Pro Publica, you can look
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them up. Pro Publica claims that
they are this investigative
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group. They do real research
where they had called me up, and
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they said, Dr.SHIVA, you know,
we want to talk to you about the
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election issue. And do you
believe China hit the election?
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Do you believe like, you know,
they’re making, you know,
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they’re, they were taking the
standard, quote, unquote,
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right-wing stuff and trying to
bucket me, and I said, Wait a
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minute. I said, let me be very
clear. There are REAL Election
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Systems issues. And the problem
is there are people who’ve taken
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the real issues and talked about
garbage. So the left could not
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ever deal with the real issues
you say, because he issues with
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election is beyond left or
right. It’s an American issue.
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So, pro publica did it. Luckily,
I didn’t I, you know, I had
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videotaped the interview, I put
it out. And they said, We’re
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doing a detailed article. And
the interviewer was completely
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confused after that our
interview. So he goes, Oh, wait
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a minute. So you’re not left.
You’re not right. Because you
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actually sound very reasonable.
He couldn’t understand the fact
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that there are real systems
issues. And I said, Yeah, I
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said, the problem is every issue
in this country is being made
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left and right. Now he wrote a
20 page article, Cathy,
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afterwards. Guess what? The
interview? I did not one
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sentence from that interviews
included. Why? Because I wasn’t
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feeding his narrative of left
versus right. You say? They want
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the left versus right, pro
versus anti on every issue,
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because the media makes money,
because then it becomes drama
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and theater, right? Like those
wrestling guys fighting.
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And that’s what we have. You
take the Ron DeSantis issue with
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immigration. Okay. The recent
thing, you know, we live in
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Massachusetts, Martha’s Vineyard
is right here, of people I know
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live there. Well, for the last
50 years, the immigration issue
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has been a quote unquote, issue,
right. But neither the left or
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right has ever solved it. The
only people who can solve
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immigration is Congress, not the
president, because Congress
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passes legislation. Now, you
would think if you really wanted
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to solve it, those congress
people would say, Hey, we’re not
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going to go on vacation. We’re
not going to leave until we
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solve this issue. Right? If it’s
such a big issue, but the
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reality is that the left and the
right, have both survived on
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cheap immigrant illegal labor.
The right Republicans survived,
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Wall Street’s profits are high
because they keep expenses low.
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Many of the immigrant, quote
unquote illegals who come here,
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are leaving countries which have
serious issues, which was caused
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by the US imperialist
establishment, putting dictators
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into those countries, and the
right wing doesn’t want to
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discuss that. But the left wing
uses illegal immigrants for
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votes, right? That’s also a
fact. Both are true. But the
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fundamental issue is, there are
30 million, quote unquote,
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illegal immigrants and many of
those people, Cathy are the ones
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who are mowing the lawns, doing
the landscaping, cleaning our
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toilets, right, etc. The since
Obama, since since 2008,
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remember, they printed all this
money, they saved the big banks
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in the in the United States,
Obama printed around $8.2
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trillion, quote, unquote,
printed right quantitative
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easing. And in two terms, Trump
printed 6.9 trillion, I gave
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money to Trump, I supported his
campaign, everyone know this,
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but at the end of the day, he
also printed money, and Biden
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has printed 2 trillion. So all
of this modern monetary theory
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of printing money was was what
did it actually do? It was
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supposed to support people to
stimulate the economy. A lot of
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people took this money, Wall
Street took it, banks took it,
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they didn’t let it go into the
economy. They invested in the
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stock market, right. And so we
have a false economy right now.
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And there’s a lot of people in
the United States during the
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last two years, who are sitting
at home and still are, who don’t
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want to work. A very good friend
of mine, who’s a very major, big
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economist, he said, SHIVA, I
don’t even know what’s going to
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happen. We’re printing money,
and people do not want to work.
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The Immigrant quote unquote,
illegal immigrants are working
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Cathy right. So I believe that
what DeSantis did, and what the
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Liberals did one is theatrics.
And yeah, there’s hypocrisy,
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right? What DeSantis showed when
he sent those immigrants over is
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okay, the liberals are
hypocrites. But he did it
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00:34:01,510 –> 00:34:04,300
because he wanted theatrics. He
wanted to do a troll like Trump,
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00:34:04,450 –> 00:34:07,300
right to get himself out
everywhere. But I don’t think
550
00:34:07,330 –> 00:34:09,970
either the left or the right in
this country want to solve the
551
00:34:09,970 –> 00:34:14,290
immigration problem. The only
way to solve this is Bottoms-up
552
00:34:15,100 –> 00:34:19,810
by everyday people getting
educated on how systems work.
553
00:34:20,230 –> 00:34:23,110
And the only people incentivized
in the United States to solve
554
00:34:23,110 –> 00:34:26,650
problems are Working People, the
middle class, who actually work
555
00:34:26,650 –> 00:34:29,830
for a living, the very poor
don’t have an incentive because
556
00:34:29,830 –> 00:34:32,440
they’re gonna get free money.
The very wealthy are also
557
00:34:32,440 –> 00:34:35,350
getting free money, you know,
they’re getting money from all
558
00:34:35,350 –> 00:34:41,440
the stimulus, which they pumped
into the stock system. So that’s
559
00:34:41,440 –> 00:34:44,710
why, you know, we have to
educate people to stop thinking
560
00:34:44,740 –> 00:34:46,750
left and right because it’s
going to rip the United States
561
00:34:46,750 –> 00:34:53,230
apart. And whoever wants that,
to create this divide is going
562
00:34:53,230 –> 00:34:56,380
to profit from that, because
you’re going to destroy the US
563
00:34:56,380 –> 00:35:01,780
economy. People can come by the
US assets at a low price. But
564
00:35:01,780 –> 00:35:06,160
we’re at a very critical point
in the in the US system, because
565
00:35:06,310 –> 00:35:09,040
you have people being ripped
apart by left and right. I mean,
566
00:35:09,040 –> 00:35:11,740
isn’t it interesting? Every
issue is always like 5050.
567
00:35:11,740 –> 00:35:17,320
Right? So this is not in my
view, this is engineered. It’s
568
00:35:17,320 –> 00:35:21,400
not normal to think like this.
And if you take an objective
569
00:35:21,400 –> 00:35:28,060
look at Trump or Obama, and I’ve
met with Trump multiple times,
570
00:35:28,090 –> 00:35:31,870
right? I’ve shared this with
him. But I don’t want to go into
571
00:35:31,870 –> 00:35:33,970
the reasons for his entrance
segments.
572
00:35:33,970 –> 00:35:38,890
But the bottom line is, Obama
printed $8.2 trillion, Obama
573
00:35:38,890 –> 00:35:44,590
saved big banks, a great Trump
printed 6.9 trillion, he saved
574
00:35:44,590 –> 00:35:48,640
Big Pharma. Just like the bank
should have failed, Big Pharma
575
00:35:48,640 –> 00:35:53,950
was failing. And instead of
letting them fail, we created
576
00:35:53,950 –> 00:35:57,430
this entire new business for
them, you know, the quote,
577
00:35:57,430 –> 00:36:01,780
unquote, vaccines, right. And
what you really had was, if go
578
00:36:01,780 –> 00:36:05,740
look at Pfizer’s revenue, in the
last 10 years, they went from 65
579
00:36:05,740 –> 00:36:09,850
billion in revenue. And in 2020,
their revenue at hit 40 billion
580
00:36:09,850 –> 00:36:13,690
they had dropped 25 billion in
revenue. They were tanking, all
581
00:36:13,690 –> 00:36:16,570
the pharmaceutical companies
were losing revenue. And a lot
582
00:36:16,570 –> 00:36:18,670
of people think, oh, farmers
making money No, they weren’t.
583
00:36:19,150 –> 00:36:23,980
Because they’re single molecule
drugs are not making any money.
584
00:36:25,780 –> 00:36:28,540
Because the entire drug
development process is broken.
585
00:36:28,870 –> 00:36:33,970
They needed vaccines to survive.
So Pfizer’s revenue went from 65
586
00:36:33,970 –> 00:36:37,240
billion to 40 40 billion. And
then right after this pandemic,
587
00:36:37,240 –> 00:36:42,280
they went to 80 billion. Think
about that. So Trump, say big
588
00:36:42,280 –> 00:36:46,450
pharma, Obama say big banks, and
whether no matter how much I
589
00:36:46,450 –> 00:36:51,400
like Trump, and by the way, 50%
of Trumpers voted for Obama. I
590
00:36:51,400 –> 00:36:53,230
don’t know if you know that.
Okay.
591
00:36:53,440 –> 00:36:53,620
50%.
592
00:36:54,250 –> 00:36:59,020
Yes, a lot, because they all saw
Obama, the black guy, the
593
00:36:59,020 –> 00:37:03,670
outside agent of change, right.
So those in power used Obama for
594
00:37:03,670 –> 00:37:07,120
eight years, and then they
brought in Trump. And if you
595
00:37:07,120 –> 00:37:10,420
look at those four years of
Trump, Fauci didn’t get fired,
596
00:37:11,800 –> 00:37:14,830
Big Pharma explosively grew,
these are the objective facts.
597
00:37:16,420 –> 00:37:23,620
And the reality is $6.9 trillion
was printed. And then so now the
598
00:37:23,650 –> 00:37:27,220
right wing blames Biden and the
Biden’s blame the left wing,
599
00:37:27,220 –> 00:37:31,690
right. So this is a nonsense and
both parties make money through
600
00:37:31,690 –> 00:37:34,840
the little e donation emails
they sent. But we are not
601
00:37:34,840 –> 00:37:38,650
solving problems in the United
States anymore. It’s a divided
602
00:37:38,650 –> 00:37:43,090
country. And the only way is we
have to go and educate Working
603
00:37:43,090 –> 00:37:46,540
People to think Beyond Left and
Right, Beyond Black and White,
604
00:37:46,540 –> 00:37:50,470
Beyond Pro and Anti. So Working
People come together. And by the
605
00:37:50,470 –> 00:37:53,410
way, what’s fascinating is you
brought about communism and the
606
00:37:53,410 –> 00:37:57,790
unions. It’s fascinating because
if you say Working People Unite,
607
00:37:58,030 –> 00:38:01,030
the right wing says that’s a
communist Marxist slogan, right?
608
00:38:01,570 –> 00:38:05,500
So what happened in the United
States was in 1920s, there was a
609
00:38:05,500 –> 00:38:08,230
true Bottoms-up movement in this
country when the depression was
610
00:38:08,230 –> 00:38:11,920
taking place. Women led those
movements for the eight hour
611
00:38:11,920 –> 00:38:15,460
workday for eliminating child
labor for better infrastructure.
612
00:38:15,670 –> 00:38:19,150
And it was those Bottoms-up
movements, which said Working
613
00:38:19,150 –> 00:38:22,120
People Unite, which has nothing
to do with Karl Marx. Karl Marx
614
00:38:22,240 –> 00:38:25,540
does not own the word Working
People Unite. You said I’m
615
00:38:25,540 –> 00:38:29,470
saying that has existed since
the time of slaves. So those
616
00:38:29,470 –> 00:38:34,480
movements actually are the ones
that forced the Democrat, FDR,
617
00:38:34,630 –> 00:38:38,860
to give people infrastructure to
give eliminate child labor in
618
00:38:38,860 –> 00:38:41,170
the United States, all those
things. And it was
619
00:38:41,170 –> 00:38:44,650
infrastructure, water systems,
electrical systems, highway
620
00:38:44,650 –> 00:38:48,640
systems, which actually reduced
infection rates long before the
621
00:38:48,640 –> 00:38:54,520
vaccines came 19 like measles.
Now, in 1950, the elites under
622
00:38:54,520 –> 00:38:58,180
the leadership of the right set,
oh my god, we can never have a
623
00:38:58,330 –> 00:39:02,230
Bottoms-up movement occur. So
they branded anytime you said,
624
00:39:02,530 –> 00:39:06,640
Working People Unite. Oh, that’s
Communist that’s Marxist. So the
625
00:39:06,640 –> 00:39:09,670
right wing attack Working People
from the right and then the
626
00:39:09,670 –> 00:39:14,470
left, the Unions run by the
Democrats made all the
627
00:39:14,590 –> 00:39:17,680
Bottoms-up movements they took
over the Union’s, Cathy. So it
628
00:39:17,680 –> 00:39:20,650
was a two pronged attack on
Bottoms-up, grassroots
629
00:39:20,650 –> 00:39:25,210
movements, the left-wing now by
1970, controlled all the union’s
630
00:39:25,210 –> 00:39:28,630
top down, and the right wing, if
you ever said hey, Working
631
00:39:28,630 –> 00:39:31,900
People Unite, oh, you’re Marxist
or Communist or Socialist set it
632
00:39:31,900 –> 00:39:37,150
up, you say? So this is where we
live now. They don’t want
633
00:39:37,240 –> 00:39:41,650
Working People independently in
a decentralized way coming
634
00:39:41,650 –> 00:39:46,480
together. They want people
fighting against each other. So
635
00:39:46,480 –> 00:39:50,560
Bernie Sanders and AOC and
Elizabeth Warren, and the left
636
00:39:51,310 –> 00:39:54,160
will use the word workers right?
They don’t care. They don’t care
637
00:39:54,160 –> 00:39:57,070
about workers at all. And the
right wing if you ever say hey,
638
00:39:57,070 –> 00:39:59,260
let’s build a Bottoms-up
movement. Let’s unite the middle
639
00:39:59,260 –> 00:40:02,650
class worker, “Oh, You’re a
Communist.” So they have a very,
640
00:40:02,650 –> 00:40:09,130
very in a powerful way, Cathy,
you say, and that’s why we need
641
00:40:09,130 –> 00:40:12,610
to educate people to Think
Beyond Left and Right. To fight
642
00:40:12,610 –> 00:40:15,340
for Truth, Freedom and Health,
that you have to have freedom,
643
00:40:16,390 –> 00:40:18,940
which some people may call it
the right wing issue, you have
644
00:40:18,940 –> 00:40:21,340
to have truth. Some people may
say, oh, that’s what nerds care
645
00:40:21,340 –> 00:40:23,830
about, right? Or scientists, and
you have to have health, they
646
00:40:23,830 –> 00:40:26,530
may say, Oh, that’s a left wing
issue. We have to bring all
647
00:40:26,530 –> 00:40:28,900
these things together. And
that’s why the system’s
648
00:40:28,900 –> 00:40:32,530
framework is the only thing that
brings it together from a
649
00:40:32,530 –> 00:40:36,310
scientific framework, because
freedom is the thing that gives
650
00:40:36,310 –> 00:40:39,790
rise to truth, and truth and
freedom give rise to health. And
651
00:40:39,790 –> 00:40:41,320
health is the thing that you
have to have the strength to
652
00:40:41,320 –> 00:40:44,020
fight for truth and freedom.
These are scientific principles.
653
00:40:44,320 –> 00:40:46,960
And it goes beyond left and
right. So if you’re a yoga
654
00:40:46,960 –> 00:40:50,110
teacher, and you care about your
health, and you’re against GMOs,
655
00:40:50,110 –> 00:40:52,810
and you don’t like Monsanto,
that was seen as a left issue,
656
00:40:52,840 –> 00:40:56,650
right, what’s not, because with
health, you have the strength to
657
00:40:56,650 –> 00:40:59,620
fight for freedom, the First
Amendment, the Second Amendment,
658
00:41:00,220 –> 00:41:04,510
fighting for free speech, is now
seen typically as a right-wing
659
00:41:04,540 –> 00:41:07,930
issue, right? But it’s not it’s
a human issue. But all these
660
00:41:07,930 –> 00:41:11,380
things have to be fought for in
an integrated way. That’s why we
661
00:41:11,380 –> 00:41:12,700
teach Truth, Freedom and Health.
662
00:41:14,800 –> 00:41:19,450
So, you know, we were talking
about left and right. There is
663
00:41:19,450 –> 00:41:25,030
also independence. Right? And
they seem more and more people
664
00:41:25,060 –> 00:41:29,320
are becoming independent. But on
the other hand, it seems like in
665
00:41:29,320 –> 00:41:33,850
the United States, the two
parties to the two party
666
00:41:33,880 –> 00:41:38,290
political system still prevails.
For example, in California, you
667
00:41:38,290 –> 00:41:44,080
know, I came from California, if
the independents that it’s very
668
00:41:44,080 –> 00:41:45,190
hard for them to win,
669
00:41:46,180 –> 00:41:49,150
Yeah, so So let’s, yeah, I’m
sorry. Go ahead.
670
00:41:49,660 –> 00:41:55,420
Yeah. So I just wonder, How easy
do you think is to educate
671
00:41:55,420 –> 00:42:00,610
people to get out of this left
and right, and thinking?
672
00:42:00,910 –> 00:42:05,860
Yeah, so you’re asking a very,
very important question. The
673
00:42:05,860 –> 00:42:09,040
most important thing to
recognize is those in power,
674
00:42:09,040 –> 00:42:12,880
Cathy. So if you look at
independents, let me answer that
675
00:42:12,880 –> 00:42:17,440
right. In Massachusetts, for
example. 55 – 60% of people are
676
00:42:17,440 –> 00:42:20,980
registered Independents are what
they call unenrolled. 10%
677
00:42:21,010 –> 00:42:26,050
Republicans. 35% Democrats.
Okay. 55% Independents got it.
678
00:42:27,010 –> 00:42:30,250
And if you run as an Independent
remember, several years ago, ran
679
00:42:30,250 –> 00:42:34,240
against Elizabeth Warren. We
created a big show the the
680
00:42:34,270 –> 00:42:37,480
Republican Party here is in
collusion with the Democrats.
681
00:42:37,630 –> 00:42:39,970
It’s all fake. It’s all theater,
right? They act like they’re
682
00:42:39,970 –> 00:42:43,720
against them. In fact, the guy
that’s right now running for
683
00:42:43,720 –> 00:42:47,500
Republican Governor, he’s a
complete idiot. He actually said
684
00:42:47,560 –> 00:42:51,400
that Trump lost fairly, but
Trump still endorsed him, Cathy?
685
00:42:53,590 –> 00:42:57,190
Because he gave Trump $16,000
They give him money and the SAVE
686
00:42:57,190 –> 00:43:00,130
AMERICA pack. It’s a money
making venture, sorry to say,
687
00:43:00,160 –> 00:43:03,700
Okay, you give save America
money, they endorse you anyway.
688
00:43:04,150 –> 00:43:09,670
The point is, the 55-60% of
independence, right? When an
689
00:43:09,670 –> 00:43:14,020
election time goes, in
Massachusetts, 60% of the
690
00:43:14,020 –> 00:43:19,600
Independents will go right, and
40% go left. Okay. That’s the
691
00:43:19,600 –> 00:43:23,860
way it’s engineered. And the
reason they do this is that
692
00:43:24,280 –> 00:43:28,450
there is no fundamental idea of
why you need to build a
693
00:43:28,450 –> 00:43:31,510
movement, a movement is very
different than registering as an
694
00:43:31,510 –> 00:43:35,080
independent. If all I’m saying
just because you register as an
695
00:43:35,080 –> 00:43:37,660
Independent doesn’t mean you
consciously get in your mind,
696
00:43:37,870 –> 00:43:41,020
why you have to build a
movement. So one of the most
697
00:43:41,020 –> 00:43:43,750
important things that we teach a
truth, freedom and health is we
698
00:43:43,750 –> 00:43:48,160
teach people history. We teach
we go back to the 1920s. We go
699
00:43:48,160 –> 00:43:51,580
back to the 1800s. We teach
people that anything human
700
00:43:51,580 –> 00:43:54,670
beings have today, Cathy has
come from independent Bottoms-up
701
00:43:54,730 –> 00:44:01,240
movements, not registering as an
Independent, but movements. So
702
00:44:01,240 –> 00:44:04,240
if you look at the woman’s right
to vote in the United States, do
703
00:44:04,240 –> 00:44:05,950
you know how the women got that
right to vote?
704
00:44:07,420 –> 00:44:08,680
Not exactly.
705
00:44:08,800 –> 00:44:15,010
Well, let’s go Susan B. Anthony.
She went to the Democrats, and
706
00:44:15,010 –> 00:44:17,200
she said Hey, women should in
fact, she wanted universal
707
00:44:17,200 –> 00:44:21,100
suffrage for women and blacks,
right? They literally laughed at
708
00:44:21,100 –> 00:44:24,520
her. In the House of
Representatives. They laughed
709
00:44:24,520 –> 00:44:28,060
her out. So what did she do? She
went door to door to door to
710
00:44:28,060 –> 00:44:32,560
door. Okay. She created a
massive ground movement. And
711
00:44:32,560 –> 00:44:39,160
then the politicians came. Okay.
If you look at any fundamental
712
00:44:39,160 –> 00:44:43,660
issue, go look at the issue of
the eight hour workday. People
713
00:44:43,660 –> 00:44:47,560
are working 20 hour days and US
factories children are there
714
00:44:47,560 –> 00:44:51,490
were working in factories. It
was in the 1800s in the United
715
00:44:51,490 –> 00:44:55,210
States, in 1886. It was called
the great upheaval.
716
00:44:55,270 –> 00:44:58,510
Unfortunately, they don’t teach
us in American history. There
717
00:44:58,510 –> 00:45:04,360
was a Bottoms-up movement. And
in 1886. It culminated in
718
00:45:04,360 –> 00:45:09,130
Chicago, where for the four
workers were hanged in the
719
00:45:09,130 –> 00:45:13,930
United States for fighting for
the eight hour workday. And that
720
00:45:13,930 –> 00:45:18,100
was called Mayday. Now, the rest
of the world, it wasn’t a
721
00:45:18,100 –> 00:45:21,580
communist holiday, the rest of
the world commemorated those
722
00:45:21,580 –> 00:45:25,630
four workers. And then somewhere
along the way, it became a
723
00:45:25,630 –> 00:45:28,750
communist holiday, you see, but
it wasn’t that originally. And
724
00:45:28,750 –> 00:45:31,360
in the United everywhere in the
world, they still celebrate
725
00:45:31,360 –> 00:45:35,440
Mayday except in America now, it
was changed to Law Day. So
726
00:45:35,440 –> 00:45:40,030
what’s happened is, in my view,
those in power do not want the
727
00:45:40,030 –> 00:45:43,720
American working class, which is
the only working class that has
728
00:45:43,720 –> 00:45:48,220
a First Amendment and the Second
Amendment to know their own
729
00:45:48,220 –> 00:45:52,030
power and their history. It’s
been wiped away, Cathy, and
730
00:45:52,060 –> 00:45:57,010
independent movements, is why
the United States has these
731
00:45:57,010 –> 00:46:00,850
freedoms and has these rights.
And over the last, particularly
732
00:46:00,850 –> 00:46:03,130
the last three, four or five
years, which our movement
733
00:46:03,130 –> 00:46:08,560
expose. It is the establishment
elites which want to destroy the
734
00:46:08,560 –> 00:46:12,460
First Amendment or the United
States. They want to remove the
735
00:46:12,460 –> 00:46:16,510
fundamental rights. And this
directly is connected to the
736
00:46:16,510 –> 00:46:19,840
concept of the monarchy, which
comes out of Britain. You know,
737
00:46:19,870 –> 00:46:24,010
Britain, does not have a
constitution. The people in
738
00:46:24,010 –> 00:46:27,550
Britain really don’t have any
First Amendment. And people
739
00:46:27,550 –> 00:46:31,030
think this stupid queen is some
Disneyland you know, she’s just
740
00:46:31,060 –> 00:46:35,530
a pretty face, right? She isn’t.
She still runs Britain, she has
741
00:46:35,560 –> 00:46:39,640
all the power to take away
parliament and run them. And it
742
00:46:39,640 –> 00:46:45,100
is that British imperial model
that never wanted Americans ever
743
00:46:45,100 –> 00:46:48,220
to have the Bill of Rights. In
fact, it is Britain, which has
744
00:46:48,250 –> 00:46:51,550
an organization called the
Atlantic Council, which is the
745
00:46:51,550 –> 00:46:54,460
organization what we discovered
in our lawsuit, which we
746
00:46:54,460 –> 00:47:00,490
presented in court that funded
the Belfer Center’s work, to
747
00:47:00,490 –> 00:47:06,640
create a set of manuals and
handbooks to censor Americans
748
00:47:06,820 –> 00:47:11,500
through the relationship between
government and big tech. We
749
00:47:11,500 –> 00:47:15,040
expose all that. So when you
really look at it, America was a
750
00:47:15,040 –> 00:47:20,020
big anomaly. 1776 was a big
anomaly. The fact that Working
751
00:47:20,020 –> 00:47:23,530
People got the right to freedom
and to bear arms. Think about
752
00:47:23,530 –> 00:47:27,640
that. What other people on the
on the planet have that? No one.
753
00:47:28,660 –> 00:47:31,750
And so we’re in this very
interesting point in human
754
00:47:31,750 –> 00:47:35,680
history, where that’s why the
death of the queen I did a bunch
755
00:47:35,680 –> 00:47:38,500
of videos on this is
fascinating. I mean, they make
756
00:47:38,500 –> 00:47:41,320
her look like a nice person. But
she was a Liberal Imperialist,
757
00:47:41,410 –> 00:47:44,200
right. She was quote, unquote,
liberal, all nice and blah,
758
00:47:44,200 –> 00:47:48,070
blah, blah. But she was an
imperialist. It was a Queen in
759
00:47:48,070 –> 00:47:53,800
1972, which did a coup, there
was a duly elected Prime
760
00:47:53,800 –> 00:47:59,470
Minister of Australia with a
stroke of a pen. MI6 and the CIA
761
00:47:59,470 –> 00:48:02,170
literally went in and they threw
out this duly elected Prime
762
00:48:02,170 –> 00:48:04,570
Minister using the Governor
General. So we have to
763
00:48:04,570 –> 00:48:08,440
understand that all roads
ultimately lead to this imperial
764
00:48:08,440 –> 00:48:12,220
notion that we’re all slaves.
When they say that the Queen,
765
00:48:12,970 –> 00:48:16,420
you know, held up the
institution for 70 years, what
766
00:48:16,420 –> 00:48:18,670
institution are we talking
about? It’s an institution of
767
00:48:18,670 –> 00:48:21,700
slavery. It’s an institution of
the caste system, it’s an
768
00:48:21,700 –> 00:48:26,320
institution destroying freedom
of speech. So it’s, to me it’s
769
00:48:26,320 –> 00:48:30,880
ridiculous and 2022. I hope, you
know, her burial means this
770
00:48:30,880 –> 00:48:35,350
entire institution is buried,
for good. But that’s where we’re
771
00:48:35,350 –> 00:48:38,530
at, we’re at a very important
point in history, where we
772
00:48:38,530 –> 00:48:42,340
literally are at this point,
just because we have freedom
773
00:48:42,340 –> 00:48:45,220
doesn’t mean it’s gonna stay
here. So that’s why I believe
774
00:48:45,220 –> 00:48:49,120
our movement, the technology,
the curriculum we built is so
775
00:48:49,120 –> 00:48:52,690
important. It’s the only way
that Working People all over the
776
00:48:52,690 –> 00:48:54,130
world are going to have the
tools.
777
00:48:54,250 –> 00:48:59,170
And to give you an idea, Cathy,
the elites who go to MIT,
778
00:48:59,200 –> 00:49:02,890
Harvard, Kennedy School of
Government, all of them learn
779
00:49:02,890 –> 00:49:07,210
the Science of Systems. George
Soros learns, he’s one of the
780
00:49:07,210 –> 00:49:11,470
Theoreticians of this. And the
Science of Systems is like a
781
00:49:11,470 –> 00:49:15,790
sword or knife. You can use it
to heal people like a surgeon,
782
00:49:15,910 –> 00:49:18,580
or you can use it to destroy
people, like a criminal would
783
00:49:18,580 –> 00:49:21,610
use a knife. Today, the Science
of Systems is being used to
784
00:49:21,610 –> 00:49:26,530
subjugate people and enslave
people. Or it can be used to
785
00:49:26,530 –> 00:49:29,530
liberate people. Now a guy like
me who learned this is not
786
00:49:29,530 –> 00:49:31,900
really supposed to teach it to
the rest of the world. But
787
00:49:31,900 –> 00:49:36,160
because of I never forgot where
I came from Cathy. That’s why we
788
00:49:36,160 –> 00:49:39,250
put the curriculum together.
We’ve organized that we’ve
789
00:49:39,250 –> 00:49:42,460
created a community and that’s
really sort of the focus of what
790
00:49:42,460 –> 00:49:45,010
I’m working on. And we have some
amazing people all over the
791
00:49:45,010 –> 00:49:45,460
world.
792
00:49:46,540 –> 00:49:53,260
So if I you estimate among these
360,000 people are learning
793
00:49:53,260 –> 00:49:57,070
this, where they come from,
like, do you have we were
794
00:49:57,070 –> 00:49:59,950
talking about not to separate
people from left and right but
795
00:50:00,130 –> 00:50:04,960
Just to give people and yeah, my
idea who are attracted to to
796
00:50:04,960 –> 00:50:05,800
learn this?
797
00:50:05,980 –> 00:50:10,780
Yeah, that’s good. Let me tell
you what’s fascinating is 60% to
798
00:50:10,780 –> 00:50:18,220
65% women. Okay? And I’ll tell
you why. Because women are
799
00:50:18,220 –> 00:50:21,790
System Scientists by nature. You
know why they don’t even know
800
00:50:21,790 –> 00:50:25,180
it? A woman has to do so many
things in the household. Right?
801
00:50:26,170 –> 00:50:28,330
Right. She has to take care of
her husband and some kids, she
802
00:50:28,330 –> 00:50:30,280
has to take care of the kids,
she has to run the household.
803
00:50:30,370 –> 00:50:33,280
She’s got to figure out a bunch
of stuff. She’s constantly
804
00:50:33,280 –> 00:50:37,720
solving a systems problem every
day, she doesn’t have the luxury
805
00:50:37,720 –> 00:50:39,910
of thinking left and right.
She’s got to solve a problem.
806
00:50:39,940 –> 00:50:44,080
Okay. And most of these women
were never involved in politics,
807
00:50:44,080 –> 00:50:51,430
Cathy. Women. So that’s one
thing. The second thing is many
808
00:50:51,430 –> 00:50:57,130
of these people are Working
People. The liberal elites will
809
00:50:57,130 –> 00:50:59,410
never come to this because they
think they know it all. I call
810
00:50:59,410 –> 00:51:02,800
them the uneducated vulnerable
idiots, okay, or the educated
811
00:51:02,800 –> 00:51:07,630
vulnerable idiots, okay. They
may have a college degree. And
812
00:51:07,630 –> 00:51:09,670
they’re typically have quote
unquote, liberal leanings,
813
00:51:09,670 –> 00:51:12,700
they’re not going to come to it,
working class people come to it.
814
00:51:13,300 –> 00:51:20,020
And particularly those people
who awaken to the fact that this
815
00:51:20,020 –> 00:51:23,920
divisiveness is taking place,
you say, many people who are
816
00:51:23,920 –> 00:51:27,580
Trump errs, they start realizing
all these contradictions and
817
00:51:27,580 –> 00:51:32,500
Trump, right? Many people are
willing to look at the actual
818
00:51:32,500 –> 00:51:36,220
stuff, you say, they don’t get
lost in the passion. They’re
819
00:51:36,220 –> 00:51:39,010
willing to let go of the cults,
you say, and that takes a lot of
820
00:51:39,010 –> 00:51:43,060
courage. So we have a friend, if
you want to come play a video of
821
00:51:43,060 –> 00:51:46,750
a guy called Franklin Licata,
he’s an Electrician. He put up
822
00:51:46,750 –> 00:51:50,830
probably like 2000 signs for
Trump, okay, gave him a lot of
823
00:51:50,830 –> 00:51:54,100
money. And then he finally
realized, wait a minute, all
824
00:51:54,100 –> 00:51:57,520
these people in the January 6
people are in jail. Hillary
825
00:51:57,520 –> 00:52:01,510
never got locked up. Fauci is
out there, right. And then
826
00:52:01,510 –> 00:52:03,460
people always give excuses. And
he said, Wait a minute,
827
00:52:03,460 –> 00:52:07,630
something’s wrong. And he had
voted for Obama before. So
828
00:52:07,630 –> 00:52:11,650
people who have gone to Obama to
Trump, you know, they just are
829
00:52:11,650 –> 00:52:14,770
waking up. So that’s one set of
people, people who have been
830
00:52:14,770 –> 00:52:19,960
like a ping pong, or other
people who were never in the
831
00:52:19,960 –> 00:52:22,900
political system, because they
never believed it, you know? And
832
00:52:22,900 –> 00:52:26,980
now they see Wow, these guys are
actually speaking, you know,
833
00:52:27,310 –> 00:52:30,640
someone just said independent
thinking people, someone just.
834
00:52:30,670 –> 00:52:36,100
Okay, so, so people who really
get it, they’re not they weren’t
835
00:52:36,100 –> 00:52:39,910
in a camp, you say, people are
in a camp, it’s harder to get
836
00:52:39,910 –> 00:52:44,170
them out. Okay. So, it’s
typically the people were a
837
00:52:44,170 –> 00:52:48,640
political meaning. They chose
not to be political, because
838
00:52:48,640 –> 00:52:54,790
they just gave up. Or people who
spent, you know, five, eight
839
00:52:54,790 –> 00:52:57,880
years as a Democrat than they
spent the last four or six years
840
00:52:57,880 –> 00:53:01,720
as a Trumper. And they went back
and forth, you say? So it’s a
841
00:53:01,720 –> 00:53:04,090
really, and they’re very smart.
And they come from all different
842
00:53:04,210 –> 00:53:08,860
economic, let me see vocational
backgrounds, hairdressers,
843
00:53:09,880 –> 00:53:15,910
estheticians, engineers,
scientists, you know,
844
00:53:16,660 –> 00:53:19,960
electricians, right, all
different backgrounds. And what
845
00:53:19,960 –> 00:53:23,500
we do is when they learned the
course, Cathy, they have to
846
00:53:23,500 –> 00:53:28,540
teach it. We call it learn,
teach and serve. You cannot we
847
00:53:28,540 –> 00:53:31,210
actually give a certificate so
you can go teach others, okay?
848
00:53:31,870 –> 00:53:34,810
You don’t get in until you teach
it. Because my view is only when
849
00:53:34,810 –> 00:53:39,040
you teach, do you learn it? And
then you have to serve. We want
850
00:53:39,040 –> 00:53:43,120
you to go educate others, we
literally people go, and they
851
00:53:43,150 –> 00:53:46,060
you know, hand out flyers, or
they take a topic and they have
852
00:53:46,060 –> 00:53:50,140
to discuss it. So it’s learn,
teach and serve. Truly
853
00:53:50,140 –> 00:53:50,530
Bottoms-up.
854
00:53:52,450 –> 00:53:59,200
So yeah, if you don’t mind, just
because you’ve been talking, you
855
00:53:59,200 –> 00:54:03,520
know, very deep about the what
you’ve been thinking. So for
856
00:54:03,520 –> 00:54:07,750
yourself, were you in a camp? Or
you’re going to the camp
857
00:54:07,780 –> 00:54:09,160
afterwards? Yeah.
858
00:54:09,220 –> 00:54:12,490
Yeah. So for me, it’s
interesting. I’ll give you my
859
00:54:12,490 –> 00:54:16,690
journey in politics, right. I
was you know, when I was a kid,
860
00:54:16,690 –> 00:54:19,900
I read every all different
political things because that
861
00:54:19,900 –> 00:54:22,180
because I you know, India has
this caste system, silent read
862
00:54:22,180 –> 00:54:25,240
left wing, right wing, I
probably studied. I probably
863
00:54:25,240 –> 00:54:28,480
know, Chinese political history.
Okay. No Russian political
864
00:54:28,480 –> 00:54:32,650
history. I studied all this when
I was a young kid. So when I
865
00:54:32,650 –> 00:54:39,940
came to MIT in 1981 There’s a
guy called Noam Chomsky, right,
866
00:54:39,970 –> 00:54:43,570
he’s one of the leading
linguists in the world. And
867
00:54:43,600 –> 00:54:46,570
Chomsky, I studied under Chomsky
to understand the caste system,
868
00:54:46,600 –> 00:54:50,260
Chomsky is 90 some odd years
old. Now, Chomsky is noted as a
869
00:54:50,920 –> 00:54:54,430
next to Jesus Christ. Chomsky is
the most cited person in
870
00:54:54,430 –> 00:54:58,660
science, believe it or not,
okay. So I realized as a young
871
00:54:58,660 –> 00:55:04,030
kid that Um, that the left and
the right. Both were horrible,
872
00:55:04,060 –> 00:55:07,000
particularly Republicans and
Democrats. And particularly, I
873
00:55:07,000 –> 00:55:10,210
noticed something even more
important, what the best way I
874
00:55:10,210 –> 00:55:13,120
can think about it, Cathy is
there’s a bird. And think of the
875
00:55:13,120 –> 00:55:15,550
head of the bird as is obvious
establishment or the
876
00:55:15,550 –> 00:55:19,810
establishment. The bird has two
shoulders, right? One shoulder
877
00:55:19,810 –> 00:55:22,240
is a Republican shoulder and the
other is a Democrat, what I call
878
00:55:22,240 –> 00:55:27,880
the obvious Wings of that
establishment. Okay, like Mitch
879
00:55:27,880 –> 00:55:31,840
McConnell, right? Republican, or
let’s say Hillary Clinton, okay.
880
00:55:33,040 –> 00:55:37,540
But the way this bird flies is
through its wings, right? The
881
00:55:37,540 –> 00:55:42,370
left wing and the right wing. So
the Democrats have the Bernie
882
00:55:42,370 –> 00:55:46,690
Sanders in the AOC, who will
sometimes even attack Hillary
883
00:55:46,690 –> 00:55:49,480
Clinton, right? But when push
comes to shove, so they’ll just
884
00:55:49,480 –> 00:55:52,840
get every the masses riled up,
it’s all theater. But at the end
885
00:55:52,840 –> 00:55:56,410
of the day, they’ll say, Oh, my
God, we have to be Trump, we
886
00:55:56,410 –> 00:56:01,150
have to support Hillary, right?
And on the right, you have the
887
00:56:01,150 –> 00:56:04,960
same things. Okay. You have the
right wing versions of it, who
888
00:56:04,960 –> 00:56:07,990
also rile people up. But when
push comes to shove, I’ll
889
00:56:07,990 –> 00:56:10,120
guarantee you, they’ll say, oh,
yeah, we got to support the
890
00:56:10,120 –> 00:56:17,110
Republicans or the Democrats.
And I noticed this in, in, in
891
00:56:18,070 –> 00:56:21,640
1984, a guy called Jesse
Jackson, do you remember him? A
892
00:56:21,640 –> 00:56:25,030
black, Jesse Jackson was part of
those called the Reform Party,
893
00:56:25,360 –> 00:56:29,140
which included Jesse Jackson,
Ross Perot, and it Donald Trump,
894
00:56:29,170 –> 00:56:33,040
believe it or not, and Jesse
Jackson ran in something called
895
00:56:33,040 –> 00:56:36,370
the rainbow movement. And he got
a lot of people excited, like he
896
00:56:36,370 –> 00:56:38,680
was anti establishment, he
really wanted freedom and all
897
00:56:38,680 –> 00:56:43,060
this. But at the last minute, he
gave all of his votes to Walter
898
00:56:43,060 –> 00:56:46,150
Mondale, and he said, the lesser
of two evils. You’ve heard of
899
00:56:46,150 –> 00:56:49,690
this, the lesser of two evils.
This is a way that they’ve
900
00:56:49,690 –> 00:56:53,140
manipulated the masses on the
left and the right. So they get
901
00:56:53,140 –> 00:56:56,200
Working People excited, and at
the last minute, they bring them
902
00:56:56,200 –> 00:57:03,010
back into the establishment.
Obama does this AOC does this,
903
00:57:03,550 –> 00:57:07,180
Bernie does this, but so does
the right wing, both do it.
904
00:57:08,890 –> 00:57:12,250
Trump ran on a thing of lock her
up, remember that lock her up.
905
00:57:12,610 –> 00:57:15,070
Nothing happened, Hillary the
day after Trump got elected,
906
00:57:15,070 –> 00:57:18,100
because he actually has a quote,
he says, that was for the
907
00:57:18,100 –> 00:57:22,360
campaign. Now we move beyond
that. And people have to see
908
00:57:22,360 –> 00:57:28,600
that. So it’s all about theater.
Meanwhile, every two to four
909
00:57:28,600 –> 00:57:32,590
years of Working People get
excited. It’s like watching the
910
00:57:32,590 –> 00:57:36,190
Giants versus the Dallas
Cowboys, right? And then they go
911
00:57:36,190 –> 00:57:39,940
back. And what we’re educating
people is this doesn’t work, you
912
00:57:39,940 –> 00:57:42,820
have to be actively involved.
And we’re creating an
913
00:57:42,820 –> 00:57:46,210
environment where people get
educated, that we want people to
914
00:57:46,210 –> 00:57:51,070
talk to their neighbors. We want
people to talk to their friends
915
00:57:51,070 –> 00:57:54,370
and family, we’ve created a
world we can take a way that you
916
00:57:54,370 –> 00:57:57,880
can take any issue any of these
issues, and you can look at the
917
00:57:57,880 –> 00:58:00,460
left and right view, and then
you can dig down into the real
918
00:58:00,460 –> 00:58:04,090
problem and the real solution.
So you can bring families
919
00:58:04,090 –> 00:58:08,140
together, you can bring people
in opposing views together, if
920
00:58:08,140 –> 00:58:11,380
they have any if they’re honest,
right? To go at the real problem
921
00:58:11,380 –> 00:58:14,020
and the real issue, and then you
can go to the real solution.
922
00:58:15,160 –> 00:58:19,450
Right? And that’s what needs to
be done. Otherwise, it’s
923
00:58:19,450 –> 00:58:24,880
literally like watching WWE, you
know, the wrestling? So let me
924
00:58:24,880 –> 00:58:28,840
tell you what 2020 I call it
distraction. 2024. Okay, it’s
925
00:58:28,840 –> 00:58:33,130
going to be DeSantis versus
Newsom. Right, Gavin Newsom, or
926
00:58:33,130 –> 00:58:38,080
Trump versus Biden. You say,
they create it like, and then
927
00:58:38,080 –> 00:58:43,930
the $10 billion were made by the
media companies in 2020. There’s
928
00:58:43,930 –> 00:58:47,470
a media company called next
media services, their stock has
929
00:58:47,470 –> 00:58:50,260
grown like this, they make money
from all the political
930
00:58:50,260 –> 00:58:55,360
advertising, okay. So this is a
money making machine getting all
931
00:58:55,360 –> 00:59:00,970
the Working People all excited,
right? Fighting each other. And
932
00:59:00,970 –> 00:59:02,410
these people are just doing
theater.
933
00:59:04,150 –> 00:59:08,830
It’s modern theater, and the
Working People are being abused.
934
00:59:09,880 –> 00:59:13,810
So that’s why we say get
educated or be enslaved. These
935
00:59:13,810 –> 00:59:17,890
people are entertainers. They
never talk about any solutions,
936
00:59:18,040 –> 00:59:21,130
ever. It’s all always about
getting people excited to fight
937
00:59:21,130 –> 00:59:25,150
the opposing side. It’s really
sick. I’m done with it, and
938
00:59:25,960 –> 00:59:27,400
everyone else should be done
with it.
939
00:59:31,000 –> 00:59:40,630
Wow. So um, so when you do these
courses, do you charge or how
940
00:59:40,630 –> 00:59:41,110
does that work?
941
00:59:41,110 –> 00:59:45,370
Yeah, let me explain it to you.
So when I in 2007, you know, I
942
00:59:45,370 –> 00:59:51,130
finished my PhD right in Systems
Biology. And I went to I took
943
00:59:51,130 –> 00:59:55,300
two years off and I went to
India to really understand how I
944
00:59:55,300 –> 00:59:59,200
could fit modern systems biology
to understand the Ancient
945
00:59:59,200 –> 01:00:02,350
Systems and Medicine. I made a
big discovery, I found out that
946
01:00:02,350 –> 01:00:05,290
the Ancient Systems of Medicine
be Chinese or Indian Medicine.
947
01:00:05,830 –> 01:00:08,350
They use different language, but
they were literally intersected
948
01:00:08,350 –> 01:00:11,650
with Engineering Systems. So I
came back to MIT. And I created
949
01:00:11,650 –> 01:00:15,370
a course called Systems Biology
and Traditional Medicines. And
950
01:00:15,370 –> 01:00:18,310
you know, people pay hundreds of
1000s of dollars to attend MIT.
951
01:00:19,060 –> 01:00:21,670
And I created this course I
taught it. I never charged a
952
01:00:21,670 –> 01:00:24,400
penny on like Elizabeth Warren,
while I was working in my
953
01:00:24,400 –> 01:00:28,630
company. And we had typically
MIT courses, lectures only get
954
01:00:28,630 –> 01:00:31,900
like 20 people coming, Cathy, we
had 200 people would show up on
955
01:00:31,900 –> 01:00:37,000
a Thursday evening, okay. And we
had doctors, medical doctors,
956
01:00:37,000 –> 01:00:40,720
engineers on one side and Yoga
people, traditional medicine
957
01:00:40,720 –> 01:00:45,820
people on the other side. And
after that course, I put
958
01:00:45,820 –> 01:00:48,940
together this curriculum, and
then I taught it all over the
959
01:00:48,940 –> 01:00:53,140
world. Okay, people used to pay
me 10s of 1000s of dollars. And
960
01:00:53,140 –> 01:00:55,870
then I realized that I wanted to
make this course accessible to
961
01:00:55,870 –> 01:01:00,910
people. And so I wanted to give
it away for free. You know,
962
01:01:00,940 –> 01:01:04,390
people would pay me three,
$4,000 for like, a two-day
963
01:01:04,390 –> 01:01:06,820
course. And I knew Working
People couldn’t afford it. And I
964
01:01:06,820 –> 01:01:09,160
thought it was so I gave it away
for free. You know, what
965
01:01:09,160 –> 01:01:16,360
happened when I gave it away for
free? Cathy? No one signed up.
966
01:01:17,680 –> 01:01:18,160
Really?
967
01:01:18,370 –> 01:01:21,820
Yeah, no one thought it was
valuable. So that I said, Okay,
968
01:01:21,820 –> 01:01:24,490
let me charge. I didn’t, you
know, we didn’t, for 350 bucks,
969
01:01:24,490 –> 01:01:26,890
right. We used to do seminars
right here in our office, right.
970
01:01:28,180 –> 01:01:31,690
People came, but I would only
get a small set of people. So
971
01:01:31,690 –> 01:01:35,440
we, after the campaign ended, I
said, you know, we need to get
972
01:01:35,440 –> 01:01:39,190
people educated on a Systems
Approach. It was really, Jay
973
01:01:39,190 –> 01:01:41,950
Foresters vision, we wanted to
offer this everywhere. So I
974
01:01:41,950 –> 01:01:47,320
said, Okay, to adults, I’m gonna
give you all those tools. If I
975
01:01:47,320 –> 01:01:50,140
can let me share that with you
again. Can I share that again?
976
01:01:50,530 –> 01:01:56,230
So any? Yeah. So yeah, so what I
said was, I gotta give people
977
01:01:56,260 –> 01:01:59,350
everything because I’m, I want
it to be very, very generous,
978
01:01:59,590 –> 01:02:02,500
because I wanted to make it
affordable. My audience is
979
01:02:02,500 –> 01:02:07,030
Working People, right. It’s not
the elites, right? I think you
980
01:02:07,030 –> 01:02:10,180
can. Oh, you have it there.
Okay. So let me share it here.
981
01:02:10,480 –> 01:02:14,260
So if you look at this here,
Cathy, do you see this? Yeah.
982
01:02:14,320 –> 01:02:16,990
Okay. So we wanted to make it
accessible to Working People,
983
01:02:16,990 –> 01:02:20,020
right? So in order to make it
accessible to Working People.
984
01:02:22,990 –> 01:02:25,540
Let me go here, right. So in
order to make it accessible to
985
01:02:25,540 –> 01:02:30,700
Working People, we offered all
these things, okay. And what all
986
01:02:30,700 –> 01:02:33,520
those things included, were the
Foundations of Systems course.
987
01:02:33,520 –> 01:02:37,810
And if you look here, it’s all
these course, it involves all
988
01:02:37,810 –> 01:02:40,630
these course parts. This is what
I used to offer at MIT, people
989
01:02:40,630 –> 01:02:43,690
pay 1000s of dollars attend,
okay, we taught people this
990
01:02:43,690 –> 01:02:47,530
system, what is a system, find
the fourth part people actually
991
01:02:47,530 –> 01:02:50,680
learn, they get like a PhD in
engineering systems, but I made
992
01:02:50,680 –> 01:02:53,500
it so anyone can learn it, you
don’t have to be an MIT person.
993
01:02:53,860 –> 01:02:55,690
Then we teach people the
intersection of Eastern and
994
01:02:55,690 –> 01:02:58,750
Western Medicine, Political
Theory, etc. This is only one
995
01:02:58,750 –> 01:03:02,830
part. But in addition to this,
we also gave people all these
996
01:03:02,830 –> 01:03:05,440
books that people have to pay
hundreds of dollars on Amazon, I
997
01:03:05,440 –> 01:03:09,400
gave them away. Then we also
gave people this tool. So we
998
01:03:09,400 –> 01:03:14,140
charge about $100 a year, which
everyone’s able to afford. The
999
01:03:14,140 –> 01:03:17,710
other thing we did, Cathy is as
a part of all of this, and we go
1000
01:03:17,710 –> 01:03:21,310
back to this right? Is what we
did was we said if you as an
1001
01:03:21,310 –> 01:03:26,260
adult, take the course, you can
then give it to as many children
1002
01:03:26,260 –> 01:03:29,410
as you want free, because we
want the adults to give it away
1003
01:03:29,410 –> 01:03:33,010
to the children. So I went to
India, to my village back in
1004
01:03:33,010 –> 01:03:37,660
India, and we gave it to 1500
kids. So you contribute 100
1005
01:03:37,660 –> 01:03:41,890
bucks. You get all of this. You
get to you get healthier, you
1006
01:03:41,890 –> 01:03:44,650
get to meet people, you get
tools, and then you can become a
1007
01:03:44,650 –> 01:03:47,470
Philanthropist and give it away
as many kids as you want
1008
01:03:47,500 –> 01:03:51,520
scholarships. Okay. So what’s
happening is, if people can’t
1009
01:03:51,520 –> 01:03:54,460
afford 100 bucks, we’re having
people in the community. They’re
1010
01:03:54,460 –> 01:03:59,110
sponsoring other people, but
it’s very rare. So that’s what’s
1011
01:03:59,110 –> 01:04:01,840
happening, Cathy, it’s a
Bottoms-up movement, people are
1012
01:04:01,840 –> 01:04:07,000
helping one another. And
everything that we run on the
1013
01:04:07,030 –> 01:04:11,830
movement, we run on our own data
center on our own hardware. So
1014
01:04:11,830 –> 01:04:15,670
we’re not relying on Google or
Facebook, etc. So that funding
1015
01:04:15,670 –> 01:04:18,250
goes to support our own hardware
and software etc.
1016
01:04:24,490 –> 01:04:38,830
Yeah, I saw no I stopped
sharing. Yep. You Yeah. Okay,
1017
01:04:38,950 –> 01:04:44,710
got it. So yeah, I just wonder,
because, you know, probably for
1018
01:04:44,710 –> 01:04:50,680
people who are now in different
camps, do you think they will be
1019
01:04:50,710 –> 01:04:55,120
unhappy to hear what you just
shared? You know?
1020
01:04:55,150 –> 01:05:00,190
Well, yeah, that’s a great
question. So what I noticed was
1021
01:05:00,400 –> 01:05:03,220
Let me give you an example. At a
certain point, you know, as you
1022
01:05:03,220 –> 01:05:06,400
know, Cathy, you always have to
tell the truth. Okay, you can’t
1023
01:05:06,400 –> 01:05:07,570
be an opportunist.
1024
01:05:08,920 –> 01:05:13,570
So I did a lot of work on
Election Systems. You know,
1025
01:05:13,570 –> 01:05:16,600
Trump did a big call out, you
know, invited me to Mar-a-Lago I
1026
01:05:16,600 –> 01:05:20,170
had a couple of meetings with
him, right? But I had to tell
1027
01:05:20,170 –> 01:05:25,090
the truth about this dynamic.
When we started sharing the
1028
01:05:25,090 –> 01:05:28,510
facts. When you look at it, I
think about I think on Facebook,
1029
01:05:28,510 –> 01:05:32,500
we lost about 15% of my
followers, okay. That’s okay.
1030
01:05:32,770 –> 01:05:35,290
Because the people that remained
were beyond left and right. They
1031
01:05:35,290 –> 01:05:40,930
got it. Meaning yes, they had to
go through their process, right.
1032
01:05:41,170 –> 01:05:45,970
Oh, is Dr.SHIVA splitting the
Right, right? That’s okay. But
1033
01:05:45,970 –> 01:05:49,510
that’s not my intention. In the
Anti, you know, the medical
1034
01:05:49,510 –> 01:05:51,850
freedom movement, I had to do
the same thing exposing this
1035
01:05:51,850 –> 01:05:55,810
guy, Kennedy, Kennedy talks a
good game. But at the end of the
1036
01:05:55,810 –> 01:05:58,870
day, what did he actually do? He
endorsed Hillary Clinton three
1037
01:05:58,870 –> 01:06:02,620
times, even though she was pro
Monsanto, and she was a vaccine
1038
01:06:02,620 –> 01:06:07,360
queen. And in his own house, he
talked about Oh, you shouldn’t
1039
01:06:07,360 –> 01:06:10,390
get the shot. But when people
came to his own home, he forced
1040
01:06:10,390 –> 01:06:15,130
everyone to be vaccinated. Okay.
So we found out that a lot of
1041
01:06:15,130 –> 01:06:17,650
people follow the Kennedy
sinking, they’re like royalty,
1042
01:06:17,680 –> 01:06:22,180
and only the Kennedys can be
fighting for us, right. So back
1043
01:06:22,180 –> 01:06:25,270
in 2020, when I had to,
unfortunately expose his
1044
01:06:25,270 –> 01:06:29,200
nonsense, we lost 15% of our
followers, but that’s okay. What
1045
01:06:29,200 –> 01:06:32,050
people are coming to realize is
the not so obvious
1046
01:06:32,050 –> 01:06:35,710
establishment, these people who
taught it’s easy to identify the
1047
01:06:35,710 –> 01:06:39,550
obvious establishment. It’s a
not so obvious establishment,
1048
01:06:39,550 –> 01:06:42,040
that’s harder for people.
Because the establishment
1049
01:06:42,040 –> 01:06:45,190
creates a not so obvious
establishment, to get people
1050
01:06:45,190 –> 01:06:48,700
excited to think these people
are going to do something. But
1051
01:06:48,700 –> 01:06:51,790
how can a guy living in Malibu
really help everyday Working
1052
01:06:51,790 –> 01:06:57,010
People? I don’t think so. Okay.
So, it’s been a journey, but
1053
01:06:57,010 –> 01:07:01,330
we’ve been leading it, you know,
and it’s okay. Because our goal
1054
01:07:01,540 –> 01:07:07,240
is, is to raise people’s
consciousness. Okay. And then,
1055
01:07:07,240 –> 01:07:10,060
you know, like, in the Kennedy
case, people always make Oh, his
1056
01:07:10,060 –> 01:07:14,980
wife did it. No, you also went
along with it. Okay. So people
1057
01:07:15,040 –> 01:07:18,490
when they don’t want the not so
obvious establishment, in
1058
01:07:18,490 –> 01:07:21,820
systems theory, we call it a
disturbance. This is like the
1059
01:07:21,820 –> 01:07:24,940
hardest thing for people to
overcome. It’s like the the
1060
01:07:24,940 –> 01:07:29,260
raising of consciousness is when
people realize, oh, it’s not
1061
01:07:29,260 –> 01:07:31,870
Mitch McConnell and Hillary
Clinton that are the real
1062
01:07:31,870 –> 01:07:34,570
enemies of Working People. It’s
the not so obvious
1063
01:07:34,570 –> 01:07:38,110
establishment. You see, the
establishment is getting ready
1064
01:07:38,110 –> 01:07:40,900
for Trump version to point out
with DeSantis versus Newsome
1065
01:07:40,900 –> 01:07:44,380
guaranteed. Okay. There’ll be
another thing, you know,
1066
01:07:44,380 –> 01:07:47,860
DeSantis will be the next savior
or for the left. Newsom will be
1067
01:07:47,860 –> 01:07:52,150
the next savior, they’ll have
people getting all excited. And
1068
01:07:52,150 –> 01:07:54,730
then what will happen? More
division, no problems really
1069
01:07:54,730 –> 01:08:00,730
good salt. That’s the, you know,
the dog who chases his tail. So
1070
01:08:00,730 –> 01:08:02,950
the question we ask people is,
do you have self respect for
1071
01:08:02,950 –> 01:08:07,810
yourself? Why are you trusting
Kennedy, okay. And they’ll in
1072
01:08:07,810 –> 01:08:11,110
fact, create very, very
interesting dialogues around
1073
01:08:11,110 –> 01:08:16,510
them. And this is what we teach
in our movement. And it’s very
1074
01:08:16,510 –> 01:08:19,360
hard because most people do not
study history. Like with the
1075
01:08:19,360 –> 01:08:22,480
civil rights movement, you know,
there was a Bottoms-up movement
1076
01:08:22,480 –> 01:08:26,500
coming. And what people don’t
know, was the government and the
1077
01:08:26,500 –> 01:08:30,370
Kennedy sponsored Martin Luther
King. They got rid of people
1078
01:08:30,370 –> 01:08:34,450
like Malcolm X, who were truly
Bottoms-up. And the Civil Rights
1079
01:08:34,450 –> 01:08:38,920
Movement didn’t really deliver
what it was supposed to deliver,
1080
01:08:38,950 –> 01:08:42,940
because it got hijacked, and
that hijacking. So today, you
1081
01:08:42,940 –> 01:08:45,130
have blocks fighting whites,
because they said that the
1082
01:08:45,130 –> 01:08:48,790
solution was affirmative action.
The real solution was
1083
01:08:48,940 –> 01:08:52,420
infrastructure in the inner
cities. And that never happened.
1084
01:08:53,260 –> 01:08:57,700
So people need to get over this
royalty syndrome. They need to
1085
01:08:57,700 –> 01:09:00,400
get over the Kennedys, they need
to get over the Trump’s they
1086
01:09:00,400 –> 01:09:03,640
need to get over the Biden’s
they need to get over the Obamas
1087
01:09:03,970 –> 01:09:06,700
they need to have self respect
for themselves and take
1088
01:09:06,700 –> 01:09:11,020
accountability for themselves.
And that means people have to
1089
01:09:11,020 –> 01:09:14,620
get off their butts and do
something you say. And the
1090
01:09:14,620 –> 01:09:17,320
establishment has gotten people
into this world of
1091
01:09:17,320 –> 01:09:22,450
entertainment, watching other
people fight things out. And
1092
01:09:22,450 –> 01:09:26,950
that’s the brainwashing our
movements fighting, if that
1093
01:09:26,950 –> 01:09:27,610
makes sense.
1094
01:09:29,740 –> 01:09:35,620
So, you know, for some people, I
think, for some Americans, they
1095
01:09:35,620 –> 01:09:43,510
are truly worried that you know,
maybe the socialists coming into
1096
01:09:43,510 –> 01:09:50,110
trying to there are theories of
how they are infiltrating this
1097
01:09:50,110 –> 01:09:54,280
country tried to take down this
republic. What do you think of
1098
01:09:54,280 –> 01:09:54,700
that?
1099
01:09:55,300 –> 01:09:59,800
Well, yeah, let’s define that
right. To me when you use the
1100
01:09:59,800 –> 01:10:03,730
word socialists communists,
right? Let me give a because the
1101
01:10:03,730 –> 01:10:09,010
word has been so used right? The
left uses it, I mean, and the
1102
01:10:09,010 –> 01:10:14,260
right uses it. And as I said,
this word has been misused in a
1103
01:10:14,260 –> 01:10:17,620
way that so if Working People
started uniting, they’re gonna
1104
01:10:17,620 –> 01:10:20,800
say, oh, that socialist that’s
communists, right. The left
1105
01:10:20,800 –> 01:10:21,490
doesn’t want people
1106
01:10:22,060 –> 01:10:26,590
Yeah, sorry. Yeah. I think we
talked about this, but the other
1107
01:10:27,280 –> 01:10:31,660
side of it is not so much the
Working People united. It’s more
1108
01:10:31,660 –> 01:10:33,160
like the policies.
1109
01:10:33,190 –> 01:10:34,630
Yes. Yeah. So
1110
01:10:34,630 –> 01:10:40,060
Pushing like, to to just give
people welfares send people
1111
01:10:40,060 –> 01:10:43,690
money, give people money. It’s
more like a Socialist. Yes.
1112
01:10:43,720 –> 01:10:49,210
Yeah. So, so let’s talk about
this definition of you can use I
1113
01:10:49,210 –> 01:10:53,800
mean, corporatism, socialism,
state capitalism, right. There’s
1114
01:10:53,800 –> 01:10:58,120
a bunch of words. China, for
example, has that, right? The
1115
01:10:58,120 –> 01:11:02,410
government and the CCP, the
government, and the big
1116
01:11:02,410 –> 01:11:07,420
corporations are one right?
There one, right. Okay. The
1117
01:11:07,450 –> 01:11:09,970
Chinese Communist Party has
imagined taking the government
1118
01:11:10,330 –> 01:11:14,080
of the United States and merging
it with a Fortune 1000 company
1119
01:11:14,080 –> 01:11:17,290
leadership. That’s what China
is. And it’s very blatant and
1120
01:11:17,290 –> 01:11:22,690
open. In America, we are given
this illusion that governments
1121
01:11:22,690 –> 01:11:30,280
over here and corporations are
over here. Okay. To me, when you
1122
01:11:30,310 –> 01:11:32,830
use the word quote, unquote,
socialism, or quote unquote,
1123
01:11:32,830 –> 01:11:35,260
communism, I use the word
corporatism or state capitalism.
1124
01:11:35,530 –> 01:11:38,620
The truth is, they’re actually
one and they’re become more and
1125
01:11:38,620 –> 01:11:42,130
more and more closer. And our
lawsuit in Massachusetts showed
1126
01:11:42,340 –> 01:11:45,280
that the government of the
United States has an agreement
1127
01:11:45,280 –> 01:11:47,740
with big tech that if you say
something against the
1128
01:11:47,740 –> 01:11:50,890
government, we actually have the
documents. They have a special
1129
01:11:50,890 –> 01:11:54,340
VIP pipeline to Twitter to shut
people down. To me. That’s no
1130
01:11:54,340 –> 01:11:56,260
different than the CCP Cathy,
isn’t it?
1131
01:11:57,340 –> 01:12:02,770
Yeah, actually, just recently,
they also have expose their
1132
01:12:02,770 –> 01:12:05,260
emails exchanges between
Twitter.
1133
01:12:05,470 –> 01:12:09,310
Yeah, but we expose that yeah
but we expose that in 2020. The
1134
01:12:09,310 –> 01:12:13,390
problem is Tucker Carlson, who I
think is a complete scumbag
1135
01:12:13,390 –> 01:12:18,700
excuse my language. He, we have
we showed him that in our
1136
01:12:18,700 –> 01:12:22,000
lawsuit in 2020, he didn’t do
anything. Nothing. I have all
1137
01:12:22,000 –> 01:12:24,520
the emails, I’m gonna expose
him. He’s part of the not so
1138
01:12:24,520 –> 01:12:28,750
obvious establishment. You see,
these people don’t talk about it
1139
01:12:28,780 –> 01:12:32,980
in 2020, when it could have
saved everything. Alex Berenson
1140
01:12:32,980 –> 01:12:36,250
knew about it. Glenn Greenwald
knew about it. Our case was the
1141
01:12:36,250 –> 01:12:37,450
pioneering case.
1142
01:12:38,350 –> 01:12:39,430
We have all the data,
1143
01:12:39,430 –> 01:12:41,020
You know, not so many people
knew about it.
1144
01:12:41,170 –> 01:12:44,740
Why is that? Why? Why didn’t
anyone cover it when it was the
1145
01:12:44,740 –> 01:12:48,760
most important lawsuit? And we
actually won. And in court I,
1146
01:12:49,210 –> 01:12:53,080
you know, we led it Why didn’t
it come out in 2020? I have the
1147
01:12:53,080 –> 01:12:56,860
emails, I’ll show you a Tucker
Carlson. He did zero. Because
1148
01:12:56,860 –> 01:13:00,520
these people are opportunists.
They don’t want to talk about
1149
01:13:00,520 –> 01:13:05,590
something when you can actually
make a difference. This is very
1150
01:13:05,620 –> 01:13:08,680
again, we teach this in our
course. So people say Oh, Tucker
1151
01:13:08,680 –> 01:13:11,800
Carlson says some good things.
Well, what’s too little too
1152
01:13:11,800 –> 01:13:18,100
late? What does it mean now,
when all this stuff has already
1153
01:13:18,100 –> 01:13:22,870
occurred? This is a very, very
important dynamic. They
1154
01:13:22,870 –> 01:13:25,900
manipulate the masses. And then
people say, well, Tucker’s a
1155
01:13:25,900 –> 01:13:29,020
nice guy says it well, he puts
his hand up and he watches which
1156
01:13:29,020 –> 01:13:33,310
way the wind blows. When it is
fashionable to talk about it.
1157
01:13:33,310 –> 01:13:37,510
They do Cathy, it’s not how
change occurs. There’s a very
1158
01:13:37,510 –> 01:13:41,230
famous engineer by the name of
Alan McDonald. I don’t know if
1159
01:13:41,230 –> 01:13:43,060
you know him. He was the, you
know, the space shuttle
1160
01:13:43,060 –> 01:13:49,330
Challenger in 86. When it blew
up. He was the one who said to
1161
01:13:49,330 –> 01:13:52,810
NASA, NASA said please sign off
the launch. He was at the
1162
01:13:52,840 –> 01:13:56,080
contractor. And he said, I’m not
going to do this because this
1163
01:13:56,080 –> 01:13:59,290
space shuttle is going to blow
up. And he was under massive
1164
01:13:59,290 –> 01:14:03,040
pressure to sign the launch. He
wouldn’t do it. Anyway, he gets
1165
01:14:03,040 –> 01:14:06,400
demoted. He was the director of
the program at Morton fire call.
1166
01:14:06,940 –> 01:14:10,510
Anyway, he died about a couple
of years ago. And he said
1167
01:14:10,510 –> 01:14:13,780
something interesting in life.
It’s important to say the right
1168
01:14:13,780 –> 01:14:18,430
thing at the right time. After
the fact two years later, oh,
1169
01:14:18,430 –> 01:14:21,010
yes, yes, it was wrong. What
they did you know what the space
1170
01:14:21,010 –> 01:14:24,760
shuttle wasn’t it horrible,
right? So these people like
1171
01:14:24,760 –> 01:14:27,460
Tucker Carlson and these now
you’re hearing about it. They’re
1172
01:14:27,460 –> 01:14:29,830
like the firemen coming after
the buildings burned down. You
1173
01:14:29,830 –> 01:14:35,320
say? They show up like heroes.
We were the heroes. And I’m
1174
01:14:35,320 –> 01:14:37,660
taking credit because we were
the ones who fought the lawsuit.
1175
01:14:37,780 –> 01:14:43,780
We were the ones who exposed it.
And everyone watches Tucker
1176
01:14:43,780 –> 01:14:47,770
Carlson. And people should start
watching our movement because
1177
01:14:47,770 –> 01:14:52,090
our movement is always two years
ahead. Go look at the Twitter
1178
01:14:52,120 –> 01:14:56,350
tweets we did in 2020. We expose
Fauci. We ran the fire Fauci
1179
01:14:56,350 –> 01:14:59,770
campaign. Then a year later,
Rand Paul comes to a little too
1180
01:14:59,770 –> 01:15:03,790
late. And then he sends donation
emails. We sent him all of our
1181
01:15:03,790 –> 01:15:09,190
stuff, we collected 180,000
signatures. These people use
1182
01:15:09,220 –> 01:15:16,120
issues. They are not real. They
use issues to raise money. They
1183
01:15:16,120 –> 01:15:18,370
said, Oh, wow, doctor, she was
talking that issue. They have
1184
01:15:18,370 –> 01:15:23,860
all the trend reports. You go
look at our social media. At
1185
01:15:23,860 –> 01:15:28,060
that time I would do a tweet, it
would get 30,000 retweets. And I
1186
01:15:28,060 –> 01:15:31,630
only have 300,000 followers.
There are people 10 million
1187
01:15:31,630 –> 01:15:36,070
followers, they do a tweet, they
would get five retweets. Because
1188
01:15:36,130 –> 01:15:38,560
we were calling it because we
understand the Science of
1189
01:15:38,560 –> 01:15:41,320
Systems, we can see the future.
And I say that again with all
1190
01:15:41,320 –> 01:15:47,470
humility. So these people watch
issues. They come after the fact
1191
01:15:48,490 –> 01:15:53,440
after the fact. They don’t do it
when the issues going on, like
1192
01:15:53,440 –> 01:15:56,650
the space shuttle. After it
blows up, then they say oh,
1193
01:15:56,650 –> 01:15:58,720
yeah, it shouldn’t have been
done. While it was special. It
1194
01:15:58,720 –> 01:16:02,920
was already blown up. Okay. How
many people like me were thrown
1195
01:16:02,920 –> 01:16:04,480
off Twitter for no reason.
1196
01:16:06,670 –> 01:16:09,490
So your Twitter account is still
suspended? Is it?
1197
01:16:09,520 –> 01:16:13,210
Oh, yeah. And there was a report
written at Stanford a 300. page
1198
01:16:13,210 –> 01:16:16,510
report, we presented in court
written funded by the Atlantic
1199
01:16:16,510 –> 01:16:19,360
Council, which showed there were
six people which were considered
1200
01:16:19,360 –> 01:16:23,620
super spreaders. And I wasn’t
even funded like Trump, or
1201
01:16:23,620 –> 01:16:28,630
others. I was go look, I was the
top six super spreaders because
1202
01:16:28,630 –> 01:16:30,940
I would do a tweet and I would
drive people have long form
1203
01:16:30,940 –> 01:16:33,760
videos, all Bottoms-up, the
other people are funded top
1204
01:16:33,760 –> 01:16:39,760
down. So this is what we need to
get across. That it was our
1205
01:16:39,760 –> 01:16:43,540
movement, which always showed
this ahead. And it’s just a
1206
01:16:43,540 –> 01:16:49,060
fact. Tucker Carlson is one of
the biggest master Grifters on
1207
01:16:49,060 –> 01:16:53,680
the planet. You know, he worked
at CNN people don’t forget, he
1208
01:16:53,680 –> 01:16:58,840
worked at MSNBC. So he just puts
on his face. He’s an actor, Joe
1209
01:16:58,840 –> 01:17:03,160
Rogan, another actor, Alex
Jones. You know, Alex gets
1210
01:17:03,160 –> 01:17:05,950
everyone excited. I’ve been on
his show, but they don’t have
1211
01:17:05,950 –> 01:17:11,050
solutions. They don’t want to
get down to the issue and
1212
01:17:11,050 –> 01:17:15,100
resolve the problem. This is a
fundamental difference. They get
1213
01:17:15,100 –> 01:17:18,490
ratings, and they get views
based on keeping the argument
1214
01:17:18,490 –> 01:17:29,800
going. Wow, yeah, this is the
reality. And so there’s only one
1215
01:17:29,800 –> 01:17:34,150
movement if look, these issues
should have been solved. You
1216
01:17:34,150 –> 01:17:38,350
know, many, many years ago. It’s
unfortunate that we have to do
1217
01:17:38,350 –> 01:17:41,680
all the groundwork a generation
ago, people should have built a
1218
01:17:41,680 –> 01:17:46,000
movement like truth, Freedom
health. So we’re sort of having
1219
01:17:46,000 –> 01:17:50,560
to do it now. You know. Look at
Joe Rogan. He’s got 20,000
1220
01:17:50,560 –> 01:17:54,280
followers. He he is part of a
multi billion dollar network
1221
01:17:54,280 –> 01:18:00,430
called Spotify. He’s owned by
his creative agency. In 2014 15.
1222
01:18:00,580 –> 01:18:04,450
We had written five research
papers exposing GMOs at a
1223
01:18:04,450 –> 01:18:08,410
fundamental level. People wrote
to Joe, his closest friend, and
1224
01:18:08,410 –> 01:18:11,560
he said you should have SHIVA
on, Dr.SHIVA on. He put that
1225
01:18:11,590 –> 01:18:14,830
opposing guy on and he was oh,
yeah, GMOs are good. Kevin
1226
01:18:14,830 –> 01:18:20,620
Folta. He was pro-GMO. And then
when the vaccine stuff came, he
1227
01:18:20,620 –> 01:18:24,190
was pro vaccine. And then when
he saw his ratings go down, then
1228
01:18:24,190 –> 01:18:27,040
he went to becoming quote,
unquote, anti-vaccine. And then
1229
01:18:27,040 –> 01:18:30,550
he saw his ratings go down. When
Neil Young got off, and then he
1230
01:18:30,550 –> 01:18:32,680
became, you know, he said, Okay,
I’m gonna, he’s a complete
1231
01:18:32,680 –> 01:18:36,310
grifter. I mean, you have to
understand these people are
1232
01:18:36,310 –> 01:18:40,570
running multi-million dollar,
billion dollar enterprises, and
1233
01:18:40,570 –> 01:18:45,610
they’re all about views, views,
views. They’re opportunists.
1234
01:18:46,840 –> 01:18:49,180
Trump is a master of it. I hate
to say even though I like the
1235
01:18:49,180 –> 01:18:53,440
guy, I may like Joe Rogan, you
may like Obama, you may like
1236
01:18:53,440 –> 01:18:56,860
Bernie, it doesn’t matter what
whether you like them. They’re
1237
01:18:56,860 –> 01:18:57,970
running a circus.
1238
01:19:00,400 –> 01:19:01,480
This is the Truth.
1239
01:19:03,370 –> 01:19:10,360
So people may wonder like, for
yourself, what kind of guiding
1240
01:19:10,360 –> 01:19:14,710
principle for your people you to
do all those things?
1241
01:19:15,850 –> 01:19:19,600
Well, let me tell you the
guiding principle, it’s loyalty
1242
01:19:20,440 –> 01:19:23,290
to those people actually work
hard where I came from when I
1243
01:19:23,290 –> 01:19:27,490
was 12 years old. Cathy, you
know, I came to you have to
1244
01:19:27,490 –> 01:19:30,280
understand if you understood the
caste system, you’d understand.
1245
01:19:30,460 –> 01:19:33,760
A guy like me should never even
be in the United States. My
1246
01:19:33,760 –> 01:19:37,630
parents should never you unmade
it. India as a caste system. If
1247
01:19:37,630 –> 01:19:40,180
you’re born into this family, we
were supposed to be coconut
1248
01:19:40,180 –> 01:19:42,010
pickers unless the rest of our
lives it’s called the caste
1249
01:19:42,010 –> 01:19:47,170
system. Okay, the British
reimposed it in India. So I
1250
01:19:47,170 –> 01:19:50,680
don’t know why everyone’s
lamenting that the Queen died,
1251
01:19:50,680 –> 01:19:55,180
frankly, you know, she was not
he sustained this institution,
1252
01:19:55,450 –> 01:19:59,080
which promotes you know, oh, God
made this person queen. It’s
1253
01:19:59,080 –> 01:20:02,440
garbage. Right. But anyway,
India, the caste system. When I
1254
01:20:02,440 –> 01:20:07,990
came here when I was seven, and
five years later, 19 COVID-19.
1255
01:20:07,990 –> 01:20:10,900
So in 1975, I went back to
India. And that’s when I
1256
01:20:10,900 –> 01:20:15,280
realized, oh my God, how poor
people live in India, right? My
1257
01:20:15,280 –> 01:20:18,670
grandparents lived in a small,
my aunt lived in a small hut,
1258
01:20:19,000 –> 01:20:21,940
their bare feet, there’s no dirt
roads, there’s no running water.
1259
01:20:22,000 –> 01:20:23,830
That’s when I realized, wait a
minute, I’m gonna go back to New
1260
01:20:23,830 –> 01:20:26,290
Jersey. And these people live
like this, I didn’t even know
1261
01:20:26,290 –> 01:20:32,110
the difference, you follow. And
it was 1975. I’d stayed with my
1262
01:20:32,110 –> 01:20:35,020
grandparents that summer. And I
was leaving back to the United
1263
01:20:35,020 –> 01:20:38,470
States and my grandparents came
to the train station to see me
1264
01:20:38,470 –> 01:20:42,700
off. And these are poor farmers.
And they were crying deeply. And
1265
01:20:42,700 –> 01:20:45,310
I realized how much love I had
for them. And all these Working
1266
01:20:45,310 –> 01:20:48,220
People who had suffered so much
that my father could go to
1267
01:20:48,220 –> 01:20:51,430
school, and I could go here. And
I realized that I would be a
1268
01:20:51,430 –> 01:20:55,540
parasite. And this is as a 12
year old kid, I still remember
1269
01:20:55,540 –> 01:21:00,670
that scene, looking out the
train door, the train window, my
1270
01:21:00,670 –> 01:21:03,490
grandparents crying, and I
realized that I better when I go
1271
01:21:03,490 –> 01:21:07,840
back to the United States learn
as much as I can. To understand
1272
01:21:09,280 –> 01:21:12,190
why these people work so hard
live in such poverty you follow.
1273
01:21:13,840 –> 01:21:18,070
And that if I didn’t do that,
that I’d be a parasite. So when
1274
01:21:18,070 –> 01:21:23,470
I got back that year, and I
worked my butt off, by the by,
1275
01:21:23,500 –> 01:21:26,110
by the ninth grade, I had
finished calculus, which was
1276
01:21:26,110 –> 01:21:27,670
offered to the seniors in high
school.
1277
01:21:29,110 –> 01:21:32,560
Just you, you learn you learn by
yourself, or you
1278
01:21:32,590 –> 01:21:37,450
I just worked hard, I just
worked harder. Yeah. I also was
1279
01:21:37,450 –> 01:21:40,840
an athlete, because I realized
that the United States offered
1280
01:21:40,840 –> 01:21:44,830
me so much that if and that all
those people that had nothing,
1281
01:21:44,830 –> 01:21:46,750
and I grew up in the working
class neighborhoods of New
1282
01:21:46,750 –> 01:21:50,650
Jersey, you have to understand I
grew up in Paterson and Clifton,
1283
01:21:50,650 –> 01:21:52,690
go look at them. They’re very
poor, working class
1284
01:21:52,690 –> 01:21:56,290
neighborhoods. My teachers were
my landlord, you know, who
1285
01:21:56,290 –> 01:21:59,440
taught me how to landscape and
paint. These were immigrants.
1286
01:22:00,400 –> 01:22:04,060
And these people were amazing
people. So I realized that I
1287
01:22:04,060 –> 01:22:09,760
better work hard. So by the age
of 14, I’m working at a
1288
01:22:09,820 –> 01:22:14,290
institution creating email,
before I came to MIT. In fact,
1289
01:22:14,290 –> 01:22:17,740
when I came to MIT, I thought
MIT was a crazy place. I didn’t
1290
01:22:17,740 –> 01:22:20,710
want to go there. People are
crazy. I thought it was a mental
1291
01:22:20,710 –> 01:22:23,890
institute. It was called the
Massachusetts Institute. Someone
1292
01:22:23,890 –> 01:22:28,450
only told me about MIT one week
before I applied. My high school
1293
01:22:28,450 –> 01:22:32,710
was 4000 kids. You know, it was
a very all Jewish High School,
1294
01:22:32,770 –> 01:22:35,830
very nice people. But Jewish
people are brought up in those
1295
01:22:35,830 –> 01:22:38,470
days that they’re the only
people are smart. My sister and
1296
01:22:38,470 –> 01:22:42,730
I were the only two Indian kids,
dark skinned Indian kids. And I
1297
01:22:42,730 –> 01:22:45,730
won every award and that got a
lot of people jealous. So no one
1298
01:22:45,730 –> 01:22:49,210
even told me about MIT, you
would think the guy who invented
1299
01:22:49,210 –> 01:22:51,400
email someone who my guidance
counselor didn’t but when I got
1300
01:22:51,400 –> 01:22:54,610
accepted, then everyone got
excited because they get better
1301
01:22:54,610 –> 01:22:58,870
ratings. So you have to
understand that my journey is
1302
01:22:58,870 –> 01:23:01,390
very different. I have never
forgotten where I came from. My
1303
01:23:01,390 –> 01:23:06,730
loyalty is to those people work
hard. And I will never forget
1304
01:23:06,730 –> 01:23:13,450
that loyalty. And I have great,
great anger. For these people
1305
01:23:13,450 –> 01:23:16,300
who are abusing people. I have
great anger for the Kennedy. So
1306
01:23:16,300 –> 01:23:18,640
when people want to defend the
Kennedys, I’ve hung out with the
1307
01:23:18,640 –> 01:23:22,930
Kennedys. I know them to them.
They toast their martinis at
1308
01:23:22,930 –> 01:23:25,780
Aspen, oh, I’m running a medical
freedom movement. They don’t
1309
01:23:25,780 –> 01:23:31,450
give a damn about that. It’s all
a stick for them. You say Bernie
1310
01:23:31,450 –> 01:23:34,750
Sanders doesn’t give a damn
about the environment. Trump
1311
01:23:34,750 –> 01:23:38,950
doesn’t give a damn about really
putting Hillary away. They’re
1312
01:23:38,950 –> 01:23:42,370
making money off people Working
People. And Working People need
1313
01:23:42,370 –> 01:23:49,090
to get smart. But we are
brainwashed every microsecond,
1314
01:23:49,900 –> 01:23:56,440
every microsecond by Hollywood
by revering celebrities, by
1315
01:23:56,440 –> 01:24:01,060
reviewing these talking heads.
That’s the that’s the
1316
01:24:01,060 –> 01:24:03,940
brainwashing that takes that’s
if you want to talk about quote
1317
01:24:03,940 –> 01:24:08,320
unquote, the fascism and
socialism. You know, I’m sure in
1318
01:24:08,320 –> 01:24:11,830
China, it’s much more direct in
America. It’s this constant
1319
01:24:11,830 –> 01:24:16,540
brainwashing of giving up your
sense of who you are and respect
1320
01:24:17,890 –> 01:24:19,990
to Robert Kennedy, who the hell
is he?
1321
01:24:21,550 –> 01:24:23,650
I mean, the guy talks about
medical freedom. He endorsed
1322
01:24:23,650 –> 01:24:26,230
Hillary Clinton three times
while she was saying she wants
1323
01:24:26,230 –> 01:24:28,810
to vaccinate everyone. While she
was saying she wants to do
1324
01:24:28,810 –> 01:24:32,290
Monsanto. He writes a book with
all of our material in it. But
1325
01:24:32,290 –> 01:24:36,670
this is just a stick. And you
will see people still wanting to
1326
01:24:36,670 –> 01:24:39,640
defend it. Well, he says some
good things. That is a trap.
1327
01:24:41,830 –> 01:24:46,990
Look at what people do not what
they say. In his own household.
1328
01:24:47,080 –> 01:24:49,870
He did not allow people and
unless they were vaccinated, oh,
1329
01:24:49,900 –> 01:24:53,590
then he blames his wife. Come
on. Come on.
1330
01:24:55,540 –> 01:24:58,900
Dr.SHIVA you mentioned I think a
lot of people that’s how Chinese
1331
01:24:58,900 –> 01:25:04,300
immigrants I had in mind about
what America is is very, you
1332
01:25:04,300 –> 01:25:09,220
know, individualism in China we
were taught it’s bad, right?
1333
01:25:09,310 –> 01:25:12,760
But, you know, immigrants come
here they understand it’s, it’s
1334
01:25:12,760 –> 01:25:19,000
good. And that’s the tradition
of America. But oh, how do you
1335
01:25:19,000 –> 01:25:22,600
think like, why it comes to this
stage in America?
1336
01:25:23,170 –> 01:25:29,350
It’s come to the state. Because
so if you look at let’s go, you
1337
01:25:29,350 –> 01:25:32,860
have to so you know, I always
love history. So if you look at
1338
01:25:32,860 –> 01:25:36,040
history from the beginning till
today, right? There was a time
1339
01:25:36,040 –> 01:25:39,190
when human beings were literally
in change, right, Cathy? We were
1340
01:25:39,220 –> 01:25:41,740
whipped and told to build a
pyramid, right? You’re in
1341
01:25:41,740 –> 01:25:45,340
chains. And still some people
are to today, right? But that
1342
01:25:45,340 –> 01:25:49,750
was primarily how most humans
work, right? And then at a
1343
01:25:49,750 –> 01:25:52,960
certain point in history, maybe
someone gave us a little piece
1344
01:25:52,960 –> 01:25:55,420
of land and said, Okay, you can
farm that land, but I get to
1345
01:25:55,420 –> 01:26:02,500
keep 60%. Right? All right, then
we’re at this current. So the
1346
01:26:02,620 –> 01:26:05,530
end typically was run by kings
in the Feudal System, right? You
1347
01:26:05,530 –> 01:26:09,430
can look at in India and China
and all over the world. At some
1348
01:26:09,430 –> 01:26:12,430
point in human history, like the
American Revolution, what was
1349
01:26:12,640 –> 01:26:18,430
profound about the American
Revolution, it was a revolution,
1350
01:26:18,970 –> 01:26:22,090
where people were were the
elites who are fighting the
1351
01:26:22,090 –> 01:26:26,560
king, were forced to give the
Working People in America, the
1352
01:26:26,560 –> 01:26:28,930
Bill of Rights, First Amendment,
second amendment, and so on,
1353
01:26:28,930 –> 01:26:33,070
right. Otherwise, those people
weren’t going to fight for the
1354
01:26:33,070 –> 01:26:36,640
elites against the king, you
follow? They had to give them
1355
01:26:36,640 –> 01:26:40,810
something. So they gave them
these rights. But that just
1356
01:26:40,810 –> 01:26:44,800
think about that in the arc of
human history. The elites never
1357
01:26:44,800 –> 01:26:48,490
wanted to give ink, you know,
imagine giving people the right
1358
01:26:48,490 –> 01:26:52,300
to speak freely, the right to
the freedom of press, the right
1359
01:26:52,300 –> 01:26:58,840
to bear arms. Cathy, this was
extraordinary, right? No other
1360
01:26:58,840 –> 01:27:01,330
country, I mean, imagine giving
the slaves to say, yeah, you can
1361
01:27:01,330 –> 01:27:04,030
have weapons, and you can attack
me one day, who would give that
1362
01:27:04,030 –> 01:27:08,050
right. So that was an
extraordinary moment that took
1363
01:27:08,050 –> 01:27:12,310
place in 1776. But the elites
are very clever they did they do
1364
01:27:12,310 –> 01:27:15,940
one step forward, but they do
two steps back. They’re very
1365
01:27:15,940 –> 01:27:19,750
clever. So even though but all
those gains came from people
1366
01:27:19,750 –> 01:27:25,120
fighting hard. So what happens
is people forget these wonderful
1367
01:27:25,120 –> 01:27:27,190
gifts that they got, this is
human nature, and they have to
1368
01:27:27,190 –> 01:27:33,040
be reminded. So you have to
always fight and protect these
1369
01:27:33,070 –> 01:27:38,950
freedoms, these freedoms are not
written in stone, they can be
1370
01:27:38,950 –> 01:27:43,930
taken away, too, right? So in
the 1900s, in the United States,
1371
01:27:44,830 –> 01:27:47,800
and for that matter, all over
the world, people are rising up
1372
01:27:48,490 –> 01:27:52,150
to fight the yoke of British
colonialism all over the world.
1373
01:27:52,630 –> 01:27:56,500
In India, people are rising up
in the 1900s in America, right?
1374
01:27:56,980 –> 01:28:00,010
Oh, you know, they’re fighting
against the US elites. And those
1375
01:28:00,010 –> 01:28:03,400
movements were truly Bottoms-up,
Bottoms-up, Bottoms-up, and they
1376
01:28:03,400 –> 01:28:08,680
were very effective. So in order
to make sure that those
1377
01:28:08,680 –> 01:28:13,570
movements never come up, again,
there has been a conscious
1378
01:28:13,570 –> 01:28:19,450
effort among the global elites,
to make sure that the tip of the
1379
01:28:19,450 –> 01:28:22,120
spear of that movement is the
American working class, in my
1380
01:28:22,120 –> 01:28:24,880
view, because they’re the only
ones who have those two or three
1381
01:28:24,880 –> 01:28:30,340
freedoms, right, is to somehow
snatch them back. And that’s
1382
01:28:30,340 –> 01:28:36,070
what this is about. This is
about making sure because the
1383
01:28:36,100 –> 01:28:38,200
people in India don’t have the
First Amendment and Second
1384
01:28:38,200 –> 01:28:41,560
Amendment. Do they have them in
China? No. Do they have them in
1385
01:28:41,560 –> 01:28:42,040
Britain?
1386
01:28:44,170 –> 01:28:45,640
Well, maybe to some extent,
1387
01:28:45,670 –> 01:28:48,790
They don’t do Britain and in
fact has no constitution. In
1388
01:28:48,790 –> 01:28:52,780
fact, Britain is in fact a
remember Harry, Prince Harry
1389
01:28:52,780 –> 01:28:56,080
said the First Amendment is
bonkers, go look it up, quote,
1390
01:28:56,080 –> 01:29:01,660
unquote, people forget, the
Queen still has reserve power.
1391
01:29:02,260 –> 01:29:04,930
She can anytime dissolve
parliament, and she has done
1392
01:29:04,930 –> 01:29:10,270
this in Australia. This is not
just some nice lady or lady that
1393
01:29:10,270 –> 01:29:15,160
died. This is people still
contain imperial power. They do
1394
01:29:15,160 –> 01:29:21,640
not like you and I having the
First Amendment. And this is why
1395
01:29:21,640 –> 01:29:25,810
our lawsuit was so important,
Massachusetts, and cover, you
1396
01:29:25,810 –> 01:29:30,430
know, so my point is the
American working class is the
1397
01:29:30,430 –> 01:29:34,150
tip of the spear. And what’s
been going on over the last 5 10
1398
01:29:34,180 –> 01:29:39,010
15 years is to destroy the power
of the American working class.
1399
01:29:39,160 –> 01:29:45,250
And I’m sorry to say Trump was
part of it. He had four years.
1400
01:29:46,210 –> 01:29:49,330
And he basically did everything
the establishment wanted, he
1401
01:29:49,330 –> 01:29:53,950
created CISA which created this
collusion between government
1402
01:29:53,980 –> 01:30:02,500
and, and and, you know, Big
tech. Jared Kushner got $2
1403
01:30:02,500 –> 01:30:05,650
billion loan from the Saudis.
I’m sorry, he made a lot of
1404
01:30:05,650 –> 01:30:11,050
money. So when you really look
at it, they had Obama, the black
1405
01:30:11,050 –> 01:30:13,510
guy who was trying to get all
trying to help blacks and
1406
01:30:13,510 –> 01:30:16,900
whites. The elites ran him for
eight years. Then they said, Oh,
1407
01:30:16,900 –> 01:30:19,030
now we need a white guy. So they
brought in Trump. He talked
1408
01:30:19,030 –> 01:30:21,940
about lock her up, da da da da.
And NO one got locked up, except
1409
01:30:21,940 –> 01:30:26,740
his own followers are locked up,
right. And none of his followers
1410
01:30:26,740 –> 01:30:31,660
were given any pardons. Jared
Kushner’s father got a pardon.
1411
01:30:32,830 –> 01:30:36,940
So you really have to look at
this. And unfortunately, it
1412
01:30:36,940 –> 01:30:39,460
makes some people vomit. So they
don’t want to look at it holy.
1413
01:30:39,490 –> 01:30:42,610
Oh, my God, I supported Trump.
And what doctor SHIVA’s saying
1414
01:30:42,610 –> 01:30:45,790
is true. But I can’t accept it.
It’s like telling a you know,
1415
01:30:45,790 –> 01:30:49,060
it’s telling someone, hey,
you’re an alcoholic. You’ve been
1416
01:30:49,060 –> 01:30:54,430
abused. And it’s hard for
people. Yeah. And you know,
1417
01:30:54,430 –> 01:31:00,760
Trump approved Operation Warp
Speed. So, I gave money to
1418
01:31:00,760 –> 01:31:03,880
Trump, you may have given the
money to him, right? All of us
1419
01:31:03,880 –> 01:31:10,210
did. But this is what is going
on. And the Working People must
1420
01:31:10,240 –> 01:31:15,310
wake up and recognize that they
have no interest in supporting
1421
01:31:15,310 –> 01:31:17,590
this because their Freedoms are
being removed, their Health is
1422
01:31:17,590 –> 01:31:23,110
being destroyed, and Truth is
being concealed. And so what we
1423
01:31:23,110 –> 01:31:27,430
have now is what you call this
collusion between both wings of
1424
01:31:27,430 –> 01:31:30,790
the establishment. They’re
running literally that WWE
1425
01:31:31,180 –> 01:31:35,200
Worldwide Wrestling Federation.
That’s what they’re running when
1426
01:31:35,200 –> 01:31:38,380
I was a kid. Cathy, I used to
watch. You know, those wrestling
1427
01:31:38,380 –> 01:31:42,340
people. It’s all fake, right?
But when I was 12 years old, we
1428
01:31:42,340 –> 01:31:44,560
thought it was cool. We stay
awake at night, watch these
1429
01:31:44,560 –> 01:31:52,270
things. But both sides are just
nonsense. I mean, come on. I
1430
01:31:52,270 –> 01:31:54,910
mean, DeSantis sending the
people over to Martha’s
1431
01:31:54,910 –> 01:31:58,960
Vineyard. Yeah, it’s a nice
stunt. Right. But you will go
1432
01:31:58,960 –> 01:32:01,990
talk to people I know in
Florida. They had to keep
1433
01:32:01,990 –> 01:32:04,390
telling him about the election
issue. He didn’t do anything.
1434
01:32:04,480 –> 01:32:07,750
Friends of mine are doing stuff.
So they always watch which way
1435
01:32:07,750 –> 01:32:10,720
the wind blows. Okay, everyone’s
here. Now I’ll say something
1436
01:32:10,720 –> 01:32:15,670
because it’ll give me ratings.
Those in power are never going
1437
01:32:15,670 –> 01:32:19,690
to do stuff that’s necessary to
be done at the right time. They
1438
01:32:19,690 –> 01:32:22,450
will do it when it’s opportune
for them. They’re opportunists.
1439
01:32:22,480 –> 01:32:28,000
opportunist, opportunists. And
this is why Working People at
1440
01:32:28,000 –> 01:32:33,490
every cycle gets screwed. And
the question is, do people have
1441
01:32:33,490 –> 01:32:37,270
self respect? Do they want to
take accountability? And do they
1442
01:32:37,270 –> 01:32:39,670
want to learn? And do they want
to commune and we’ve created
1443
01:32:39,670 –> 01:32:41,290
that environment for people to
do that?
1444
01:32:43,870 –> 01:32:49,510
So by hearing to this point,
some people may feel then you
1445
01:32:49,510 –> 01:32:53,770
know, for example, in the
upcoming midterm election, how
1446
01:32:53,770 –> 01:32:56,020
people can vote then?
1447
01:32:57,310 –> 01:33:01,600
Well, here’s the bottom line.
Okay. What people should ask
1448
01:33:01,600 –> 01:33:04,960
themselves? Is this a wrong
question? My view don’t take
1449
01:33:04,960 –> 01:33:09,040
this the wrong way. The question
is, why are you focused on the
1450
01:33:09,040 –> 01:33:11,890
midterm elections? What are you
doing right now? Why are you
1451
01:33:11,890 –> 01:33:15,310
always Why are you letting the
elites drive what you should do
1452
01:33:15,490 –> 01:33:19,630
to change your world? This is a
fun every two years for you,
1453
01:33:19,630 –> 01:33:22,570
they have a cycle, right? So
they sent out all their and then
1454
01:33:22,570 –> 01:33:24,400
he was only what are you gonna
vote for? You’re gonna vote for
1455
01:33:24,430 –> 01:33:28,660
wrong question. You know, you
can judge this consciousness of
1456
01:33:28,660 –> 01:33:32,560
somebody by their questions that
they ask, Okay.
1457
01:33:33,790 –> 01:33:37,575
The question should be, What
should I do to empower myself
1458
01:33:37,640 –> 01:33:41,621
for the future? And what we’re
telling people is, number one,
1459
01:33:41,686 –> 01:33:45,406
understand this dynamic of left
and right. Understand the
1460
01:33:45,471 –> 01:33:49,387
Science of Systems, we’re giving
people tools number two, do
1461
01:33:49,452 –> 01:33:53,563
something every day, something
small, take 5-10 minutes, and we
1462
01:33:53,629 –> 01:33:57,871
give people activities to do. So
you feel empowered. Number four,
1463
01:33:57,936 –> 01:34:02,113
be part of a community of other
people getting this so you don’t
1464
01:34:02,178 –> 01:34:06,224
feel desperate. You don’t get
divided into left and right. You
1465
01:34:06,289 –> 01:34:09,748
don’t have to choose a camp, you
see? And this is the
1466
01:34:09,813 –> 01:34:13,533
infrastructure we’re doing.
We’re giving people a massive
1467
01:34:13,599 –> 01:34:17,579
gift. We’re saying number one,
get your head clear. Stop this
1468
01:34:17,645 –> 01:34:21,495
brainwashing. Do you want to get
your, it’s like people are
1469
01:34:21,560 –> 01:34:25,541
abused. And they want to keep
being abused. Okay. Do you want
1470
01:34:25,606 –> 01:34:28,870
to get out of that abusive
relationship? Step one.
1471
01:34:29,250 –> 01:34:34,020
Step two, do you actually want?
Do you really care about your
1472
01:34:34,020 –> 01:34:37,590
children? Do you really, really
care about your future? If you
1473
01:34:37,590 –> 01:34:40,860
do, then you will understand
this dynamic and you will do
1474
01:34:40,860 –> 01:34:44,400
something every day to break
yourself out of that, which is
1475
01:34:44,400 –> 01:34:47,640
go talk to your neighbor, have a
discussion. Hey, where are you
1476
01:34:47,640 –> 01:34:49,710
wearing that mask? I’m not and
by the way, do you know it’s
1477
01:34:49,710 –> 01:34:52,440
really about public health? And
we have a whole step by step
1478
01:34:52,440 –> 01:34:54,630
where you can have discussions
with your family and your
1479
01:34:54,630 –> 01:34:58,530
neighbors that are split up. We
teach people that so now you
1480
01:34:58,530 –> 01:35:03,600
have tools. Invite people to a
discussion. This is a way out of
1481
01:35:03,600 –> 01:35:09,120
this. If people want to be like
a dumb dog chasing its tail,
1482
01:35:09,720 –> 01:35:11,280
they should keep talking about
oh, what’s going to happen in
1483
01:35:11,280 –> 01:35:14,550
2022? Or is DeSantis, the next
one, and after DeSantis it’ll be
1484
01:35:14,550 –> 01:35:16,950
someone else and someone else
and someone else. And each
1485
01:35:16,980 –> 01:35:19,650
iteration of that cycle, people
are going to be more and more
1486
01:35:19,650 –> 01:35:22,620
enslaved. And you know, who’s
gonna make the money? DeSantis
1487
01:35:22,620 –> 01:35:25,410
makes money, Trump makes money,
Biden makes money, Hunter Biden
1488
01:35:25,410 –> 01:35:27,990
makes money. Tucker Carlson
makes money. Fox News makes
1489
01:35:27,990 –> 01:35:29,640
money. CNN makes money.
1490
01:35:33,840 –> 01:35:42,660
So, what do you think as people
still, you know, can trust the
1491
01:35:42,660 –> 01:35:45,990
system? For example, the
Election System?
1492
01:35:46,020 –> 01:35:52,290
Well, my issue is that both
parties, what we discovered,
1493
01:35:52,320 –> 01:35:59,460
okay. Is there a fundamental
issues, okay, fundamental issues
1494
01:36:00,420 –> 01:36:05,700
that our campaign brought out,
our lawsuit brought out. And
1495
01:36:05,700 –> 01:36:08,520
those fundamental systems are
something both Democrats and
1496
01:36:08,520 –> 01:36:11,220
Republicans do not want to
address, because they’ve been
1497
01:36:11,220 –> 01:36:15,300
both abusing the systems.
Fundamentally, ballot images are
1498
01:36:15,300 –> 01:36:19,320
supposed to be saved. Where are
they? The images from my own
1499
01:36:19,320 –> 01:36:23,490
campaign, they deleted? These
are Federal Law violations.
1500
01:36:23,970 –> 01:36:26,490
Trump’s Department of Justice
didn’t do anything. No one did
1501
01:36:26,490 –> 01:36:31,140
anything. Trump didn’t even do
anything about it. When I met
1502
01:36:31,140 –> 01:36:33,450
with Trump, I said, you know,
they don’t even have your I
1503
01:36:33,450 –> 01:36:36,480
said, you know, the Cyber Ninjas
guys haven’t given us a ballot
1504
01:36:36,480 –> 01:36:39,390
images. Do you know what he
asked me? Told me, Cathy? He
1505
01:36:39,390 –> 01:36:43,530
said, What are ballot images? He
didn’t even know what ballot
1506
01:36:43,530 –> 01:36:47,040
images are yet he’s made a half
a billion dollars raising money
1507
01:36:47,040 –> 01:36:49,350
off of this. Okay, number one.
1508
01:36:49,800 –> 01:36:54,450
Number two, the entire chain of
custody, and the signature
1509
01:36:54,450 –> 01:36:59,160
verification process is flawed.
These are fundamental issues. So
1510
01:36:59,160 –> 01:37:03,000
there are enough places that
both Republicans and Democrats
1511
01:37:03,000 –> 01:37:07,470
know that they do not want to
talk about. Meanwhile, the right
1512
01:37:07,470 –> 01:37:09,900
wing took the issues that we
brought up and they talked
1513
01:37:09,900 –> 01:37:13,170
about, oh, yeah, the elections
are being hit from Italy. You
1514
01:37:13,170 –> 01:37:17,280
know, Mike Lindell, nice fellow
sells pillows all day on this.
1515
01:37:18,660 –> 01:37:23,310
He’s making money selling
pillows off election fraud. It’s
1516
01:37:23,310 –> 01:37:30,000
really awful. He doesn’t talk
about the real issues. He’s
1517
01:37:30,000 –> 01:37:32,850
selling pillows, you see people
take issues.
1518
01:37:33,540 –> 01:37:35,580
And the Republican the Democrats
do this too, with climate
1519
01:37:35,580 –> 01:37:41,100
change. Right? They’re selling
electric cars. And they don’t
1520
01:37:41,100 –> 01:37:43,560
want to talk about the fact that
electric cars and you plug it
1521
01:37:43,560 –> 01:37:50,460
in, is connected to a coal power
plant, right. So the only way
1522
01:37:50,490 –> 01:37:56,880
out of this is to raise people’s
consciousness. It’s the only way
1523
01:37:56,880 –> 01:38:02,670
out. And if people are serious,
we’ve created the infrastructure
1524
01:38:02,670 –> 01:38:04,350
to do that we’ve created the
school, we’ve created the
1525
01:38:04,350 –> 01:38:08,430
training, we’ve created the
community, it’s here. So my view
1526
01:38:08,430 –> 01:38:16,020
is we don’t really want to, we
don’t really want to, you know,
1527
01:38:16,230 –> 01:38:21,090
convince people, there are
enough people who are getting
1528
01:38:21,090 –> 01:38:25,410
it. And our goal is to really
educate people. And our view is
1529
01:38:25,410 –> 01:38:27,870
once you educate enough people,
they will educate their
1530
01:38:27,870 –> 01:38:32,190
community. So it’s, so the issue
is, if you want to be on that
1531
01:38:32,190 –> 01:38:36,030
track, imagine a train track
which has a Ferris wheel on it,
1532
01:38:36,090 –> 01:38:39,990
that’s really this current
electoral process system, it’s,
1533
01:38:39,990 –> 01:38:42,240
you’re just gonna be going
around, and then you’ll get off
1534
01:38:42,240 –> 01:38:45,900
the train in 2022, you’ll be
quiet and then 2024, you’ll get
1535
01:38:45,900 –> 01:38:47,910
back on the train. It’s like
this nonsense.
1536
01:38:48,630 –> 01:38:52,470
But if you want to be on a very
different track of raising your
1537
01:38:52,470 –> 01:38:55,680
consciousness, if you want to
really become a full human being
1538
01:38:55,680 –> 01:38:59,100
if you really want to truly be
an adult, and truly care for
1539
01:38:59,100 –> 01:39:01,680
your children, you’ll start
really looking at this beyond
1540
01:39:01,680 –> 01:39:02,430
left and right.
1541
01:39:05,280 –> 01:39:06,480
You know, yeah,
1542
01:39:06,690 –> 01:39:10,860
It sounds like it’s relatively
long process isn’t?
1543
01:39:11,130 –> 01:39:15,180
No, it isn’t. It isn’t. What’s
interesting is, if
1544
01:39:16,920 –> 01:39:18,480
You ever watch water boil?
1545
01:39:19,710 –> 01:39:23,310
When does water boil? Cathy? It
boils at exactly a certain
1546
01:39:23,310 –> 01:39:27,300
point. Exactly. Right. So we
have people been watching my
1547
01:39:27,300 –> 01:39:31,020
videos for two years, right? And
then they’ll take the course.
1548
01:39:31,230 –> 01:39:34,680
And they’ll go, Oh, my God, I
get it. But if you don’t go to
1549
01:39:34,680 –> 01:39:37,350
truth and health.com, you don’t
take the course. It’s all you
1550
01:39:37,350 –> 01:39:39,570
just hear, Oh, I love what
Dr.SHIVA is saying, Oh, he’s
1551
01:39:39,570 –> 01:39:42,000
very smart da da da ta. And then
they take the course and they
1552
01:39:42,000 –> 01:39:43,710
understand the
Not-So-Obvious-Establishment.
1553
01:39:44,460 –> 01:39:47,940
And then they go, Oh, I get it.
I have to go on the ground and
1554
01:39:47,940 –> 01:39:51,390
do something. I have to go talk
to my neighbor. You see, I’ve
1555
01:39:51,390 –> 01:39:53,670
been an activist all my life.
When I was at MIT, we started
1556
01:39:53,670 –> 01:39:56,520
our own newspaper We used to
meet people. People don’t
1557
01:39:56,520 –> 01:39:58,530
understand they have to interact
with other human beings
1558
01:39:58,530 –> 01:40:03,270
physically not on social media.
all day. This is very hard. So
1559
01:40:03,270 –> 01:40:06,210
you will see people will go like
this, they’ll listen and then
1560
01:40:06,210 –> 01:40:09,780
boom, they’ll have this
awakening of consciousness. In
1561
01:40:09,780 –> 01:40:12,300
the book System and Revolution,
which I have I defined what
1562
01:40:12,300 –> 01:40:17,280
revolution is. Revolution is at
a certain point. Things happen.
1563
01:40:17,310 –> 01:40:22,170
Okay. Revolution in your
consciousness. So we, you know,
1564
01:40:22,170 –> 01:40:24,840
we’ve taken 30 years of
knowledge and we’ve consolidated
1565
01:40:24,840 –> 01:40:28,140
into a course. We have people
handhold you through the course
1566
01:40:28,140 –> 01:40:31,230
you can take, it’s self paced,
we have a community, but we’re
1567
01:40:31,230 –> 01:40:35,460
doing enough activities where
we’ll turn on that thing in
1568
01:40:35,460 –> 01:40:39,510
people you see, so some people
get it right away. Like my
1569
01:40:39,510 –> 01:40:42,120
friend Frank had been screwed
enough times left, right, left,
1570
01:40:42,120 –> 01:40:46,290
right, Obama, Trump, and then he
got it right. Other people don’t
1571
01:40:46,320 –> 01:40:50,190
follow people for way too long.
All right. Other people will
1572
01:40:50,190 –> 01:40:53,220
take the course. But they may
not get the not so obvious
1573
01:40:53,220 –> 01:40:56,670
establishment, they have
illusions. And then finally,
1574
01:40:56,670 –> 01:41:01,860
they’ll get it. But it is a
process, but we’ve made it. So
1575
01:41:01,860 –> 01:41:02,910
think about it this way.
1576
01:41:03,870 –> 01:41:06,270
You could spend the next 20
years of your life voting
1577
01:41:06,270 –> 01:41:09,150
Republican voting Democrat,
voting Republican. And then you
1578
01:41:09,150 –> 01:41:11,430
wake up when you’re 90 years
old, you go, Oh, my God, I
1579
01:41:11,430 –> 01:41:16,860
wasted my life. But here, we
want to stop that suffering when
1580
01:41:16,860 –> 01:41:21,240
people say okay, I get it. Now,
when people are given this
1581
01:41:21,240 –> 01:41:24,150
foundational knowledge, now they
can make a conscious decision
1582
01:41:24,150 –> 01:41:26,700
whether they want to remain
stupid, or they want to get
1583
01:41:26,700 –> 01:41:30,420
wise, you say, some people are
not ready. Okay? The guy’s
1584
01:41:30,420 –> 01:41:33,300
telling the truth. Everything
here is right. But I have to let
1585
01:41:33,300 –> 01:41:35,760
go of a lot of my illusions. I’m
not ready. You see what I’m
1586
01:41:35,760 –> 01:41:39,360
saying. It’s like they’re not
ready to stop being addicted to
1587
01:41:39,360 –> 01:41:46,500
something. Right? It’s an
addiction. It’s an addiction to
1588
01:41:46,500 –> 01:41:49,950
a system. That’s not going to
get you anywhere except get you
1589
01:41:49,950 –> 01:41:52,920
enrolled into that system. And
it ultimately comes down to do
1590
01:41:52,920 –> 01:41:56,400
you want to take, do you have
respect for yourself? And do you
1591
01:41:56,400 –> 01:41:59,700
want to take personal
responsibility? That’s really
1592
01:41:59,700 –> 01:42:00,660
the fundamental question.
1593
01:42:02,970 –> 01:42:07,590
So yeah, I don’t know how much
time you still have. This one
1594
01:42:07,590 –> 01:42:12,540
news just came out. I think
it’s, you know, the as the
1595
01:42:12,600 –> 01:42:16,500
midterm general election coming
up, the cybersecurity and
1596
01:42:16,500 –> 01:42:20,940
infrastructure security agency
just announced that they have
1597
01:42:21,030 –> 01:42:26,220
election experts say that the
post election audits confirm
1598
01:42:26,220 –> 01:42:30,840
ballot, tabulating machines are
highly accurate and all those
1599
01:42:30,870 –> 01:42:33,510
media’s reporting that
1600
01:42:34,170 –> 01:42:36,510
You know who you are, first of
all, do you know who created
1601
01:42:36,510 –> 01:42:37,140
CISA?
1602
01:42:39,480 –> 01:42:40,800
You said it’s Trump.
1603
01:42:40,860 –> 01:42:46,560
Yes. Trump created CISA. Okay,
1604
01:42:46,590 –> 01:42:51,510
The head of the agency went
against him, right?
1605
01:42:52,110 –> 01:42:56,310
Yeah, but the bottom line is,
look, it’s like this. If you’re
1606
01:42:56,310 –> 01:42:59,100
gonna go into power and say, I’m
anti establishment, I’m going to
1607
01:42:59,100 –> 01:43:02,820
clean the swamp, right. Well,
you gotta go do that. You can’t
1608
01:43:02,820 –> 01:43:05,910
later say, Well, yeah, you know,
I’m gonna go Yeah, right. It was
1609
01:43:05,910 –> 01:43:09,480
not my fault, blah, blah, blah,
right. He created CISA. CISA
1610
01:43:09,480 –> 01:43:13,140
created that infrastructure that
allowed government to have an
1611
01:43:13,140 –> 01:43:17,130
unholy alliance with big tech.
So that’s the first thing, but
1612
01:43:17,130 –> 01:43:22,710
yes, CISA in the if you go, let
me show you something I have to
1613
01:43:22,860 –> 01:43:27,780
enter when we did our lawsuit.
Can I share the screen again?
1614
01:43:28,350 –> 01:43:37,560
Okay, then. When we? Yeah, I
mean, we did the most important
1615
01:43:37,560 –> 01:43:41,970
lawsuit of the century with, let
me show you that.
1616
01:43:47,550 –> 01:43:51,570
Hey, John, can you see this on
stream? Just make sure. Can you
1617
01:43:51,570 –> 01:43:53,730
just check if this is showing
up? Some people are saying they
1618
01:43:53,730 –> 01:44:00,510
can’t see it. Just do you see
this? Cathy? Yeah. Okay.
1619
01:44:00,750 –> 01:44:03,750
So we built this site. We’re
doing our lawsuit. It’s 2020. I
1620
01:44:03,750 –> 01:44:07,290
filed all my own lawsuits. We
won in federal court, multiple
1621
01:44:07,290 –> 01:44:10,830
lawsuits. One of the biggest
thing we discovered was this
1622
01:44:11,880 –> 01:44:16,140
picture, you see this? This is
the entire so I was thrown off
1623
01:44:16,140 –> 01:44:20,550
Twitter by this woman. Okay. Who
is the state election director
1624
01:44:20,550 –> 01:44:25,410
of Massachusetts. She contacted
Twitter. And what we discovered
1625
01:44:25,410 –> 01:44:28,110
was that she has a relationship
with the National Association of
1626
01:44:28,110 –> 01:44:30,570
State election directors. I’m
not going to get into detail but
1627
01:44:30,570 –> 01:44:35,580
we figured out see here sighs
over here. She sits on the board
1628
01:44:35,580 –> 01:44:41,850
of Siza. And over here is all
these people at Harvard who had
1629
01:44:41,850 –> 01:44:45,270
created all of these documents,
which are the censorship,
1630
01:44:45,270 –> 01:44:50,550
infrastructure documents that
govern how any American citizen
1631
01:44:50,940 –> 01:44:56,550
can be thrown off social media,
but unlike the CCP, they Launder
1632
01:44:56,550 –> 01:45:00,780
Censorship. So they created this
thing called ISAC. So if they
1633
01:45:00,780 –> 01:45:05,130
see Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai exposing
this individual here, they
1634
01:45:05,160 –> 01:45:09,450
Launder Censorship. And we
exposed we found the documents
1635
01:45:09,450 –> 01:45:11,760
and I’ll show them to you we
could do a whole nother thing on
1636
01:45:11,760 –> 01:45:14,490
it. We literally found the
documents, what are called the
1637
01:45:14,490 –> 01:45:18,600
playbooks written at Harvard,
which are called the Election
1638
01:45:18,600 –> 01:45:22,350
Influence Operations Guide Book.
This Playbook goes into gross
1639
01:45:22,350 –> 01:45:26,850
detail how if you criticize an
election official, the step by
1640
01:45:26,850 –> 01:45:30,930
step process, how you will
surveil them, track them, and
1641
01:45:30,930 –> 01:45:32,580
throw them off social media.
1642
01:45:33,600 –> 01:45:35,430
Who create this Playbook?
1643
01:45:35,460 –> 01:45:39,930
Great question. Look at the
authors. The authors are Amy
1644
01:45:39,930 –> 01:45:42,630
Cohen, who was involved in
throwing me off Twitter, this is
1645
01:45:42,630 –> 01:45:45,630
National Association of State
Election Directors. The authors
1646
01:45:45,630 –> 01:45:49,170
are the government of
Massachusetts, the authors are
1647
01:45:49,170 –> 01:45:55,590
Twitter legal right here. And
CISA. We discovered this, we
1648
01:45:55,590 –> 01:46:01,590
gave it this was in 2020. So our
lawsuit is the most Historic
1649
01:46:01,590 –> 01:46:05,880
lawsuit, frankly, on the planet,
okay. And everyone should be
1650
01:46:05,880 –> 01:46:09,210
covering this, but no one wanted
to because it was pure truth.
1651
01:46:09,390 –> 01:46:16,680
And it exposes all the nonsense.
So that’s what we’re talking
1652
01:46:16,680 –> 01:46:19,860
about our movement has always
and if you go through this, it
1653
01:46:19,860 –> 01:46:22,110
was every, every detail.
1654
01:46:22,920 –> 01:46:25,890
It was me and the judge in
court, we asked the Social Media
1655
01:46:25,890 –> 01:46:29,220
Director of the government, how
did you throw off Dr., Dr.SHIVA,
1656
01:46:29,370 –> 01:46:33,930
oh, I have a special VIP portal
to Twitter. And you can go
1657
01:46:33,930 –> 01:46:36,840
through all of this. But these
are the most important things.
1658
01:46:36,990 –> 01:46:40,650
There is a specific document
here, which goes through gross
1659
01:46:40,650 –> 01:46:44,610
detail. And these are all
developed at Harvard with funded
1660
01:46:44,610 –> 01:46:47,760
by The Atlantic Council, which
is funded by the Queen, okay.
1661
01:46:48,240 –> 01:46:51,450
And it goes through detail the
four stages of countering
1662
01:46:51,930 –> 01:46:55,860
election influence operations.
And step by step, how you
1663
01:46:55,890 –> 01:46:59,160
identify someone, how you track
them, and how you throw them
1664
01:46:59,160 –> 01:47:02,550
off, and how you monitor them
for the rest of their lives.
1665
01:47:03,840 –> 01:47:08,190
Okay, so we expose all of this
Cathy. And it’s all in
1666
01:47:08,190 –> 01:47:08,700
documents.
1667
01:47:08,700 –> 01:47:13,110
Nowadays, the elites don’t even
lie. They simply do whatever the
1668
01:47:13,110 –> 01:47:20,340
hell they want. And it’s all out
in the open. We have to do the
1669
01:47:20,340 –> 01:47:24,420
dirty job of exposing this. So
you have to ask, do they really
1670
01:47:24,420 –> 01:47:29,790
want to stop this? And what I’m
trying to tell you, over and
1671
01:47:29,790 –> 01:47:33,690
over we teach this is those in
power via Trump or Obama or
1672
01:47:33,750 –> 01:47:39,600
DeSantis. Or whoever the hell it
is. They don’t want to end this,
1673
01:47:39,810 –> 01:47:43,920
they rather talk about oh my god
Biden is attacking us. Donate me
1674
01:47:43,920 –> 01:47:46,620
money for the Trump justice
fund. Oh, my God would do give a
1675
01:47:46,620 –> 01:47:51,150
green New Deal. Click here. 50
bucks. They’re making money.
1676
01:47:52,140 –> 01:47:55,020
They’re never going to solve the
issues. They don’t have an
1677
01:47:55,020 –> 01:47:57,900
interest in solving the issue.
When you have $3 billion in the
1678
01:47:57,900 –> 01:48:06,300
bank. Hunter Biden and Tucker
Carlson are like this. Tucker
1679
01:48:06,300 –> 01:48:09,270
Carlson writes to Hunter Biden
to get you know, a resume for
1680
01:48:09,270 –> 01:48:14,520
his, you know, recommendation
letter. Come on. People need to
1681
01:48:14,520 –> 01:48:19,830
wake up, wake up is what people
need to do and recognize left or
1682
01:48:19,830 –> 01:48:23,520
right. Establishment leaders
have no interest in you if
1683
01:48:23,520 –> 01:48:24,630
you’re a working person.
1684
01:48:27,240 –> 01:48:32,760
He didn’t have a Council exposed
the Hunter Biden’s laptop.
1685
01:48:33,690 –> 01:48:36,630
Really did he he said, Go look
at what he said. He said, Oh,
1686
01:48:36,630 –> 01:48:37,140
no, no.
1687
01:48:37,170 –> 01:48:39,120
The USB.
1688
01:48:40,230 –> 01:48:42,870
He said, he said, Oh, we
shouldn’t go attack him that
1689
01:48:42,870 –> 01:48:48,360
much. He’s I mean, they’re
friends. Do you understand?
1690
01:48:48,360 –> 01:48:51,810
Cathy, these people are one
elite circle. Look, I used to be
1691
01:48:51,810 –> 01:48:55,410
married to a woman who was an
actress in Hollywood, okay. I’ve
1692
01:48:55,440 –> 01:48:59,760
had the chance to live in many
of these circles. And I betrayed
1693
01:48:59,760 –> 01:49:04,050
many of the elite, okay. I’ve
been at the highest levels at
1694
01:49:04,050 –> 01:49:08,310
MIT. I was at the highest levels
in the Indian government. I’ve
1695
01:49:08,310 –> 01:49:10,320
hung out with all these
Hollywood people. They’re all
1696
01:49:10,320 –> 01:49:16,380
one circle left and right. They
think they’re better than you.
1697
01:49:20,430 –> 01:49:23,490
And when you talk about quote
unquote, socialism code, it is
1698
01:49:23,490 –> 01:49:27,690
this collusion among these
people. Left and right. It’s a
1699
01:49:27,690 –> 01:49:33,840
game. It is a game for them. Why
does Trump ask people for the
1700
01:49:33,840 –> 01:49:37,470
Trump justice fund? Does he not
enough have enough money? Why is
1701
01:49:37,470 –> 01:49:46,980
he asking working class people
for money? Why does any Why does
1702
01:49:46,980 –> 01:49:49,350
anyone give these politicians
any money?
1703
01:49:56,130 –> 01:50:00,570
You have to ask this question.
Yeah,
1704
01:50:01,110 –> 01:50:11,100
Here’s a message for me okay.
1705
01:50:21,330 –> 01:50:22,680
All right, I think
1706
01:50:22,740 –> 01:50:24,930
All right. Yeah. So I think
yeah, it’s we’ve been, it’s been
1707
01:50:24,930 –> 01:50:28,920
like almost two hours. Yeah.
Very, you know, very
1708
01:50:28,920 –> 01:50:33,150
informative, in that. I really
appreciate that you, you know,
1709
01:50:33,240 –> 01:50:38,370
share with us. So, yeah. So
yeah, what’s the takeaway?
1710
01:50:38,850 –> 01:50:43,200
I think the biggest takeaway is
the following. The takeaway is,
1711
01:50:43,290 –> 01:50:50,460
you know, that we have created a
framework, which has never
1712
01:50:50,460 –> 01:50:53,970
existed before in history. Think
about when the airplane was
1713
01:50:53,970 –> 01:50:56,160
first created, we have to
understand Bernoulli principle,
1714
01:50:56,160 –> 01:50:59,610
right? There was, you know,
people tried to fly for many,
1715
01:50:59,610 –> 01:51:02,520
many years, right. And they
would fall off cliffs, they
1716
01:51:02,520 –> 01:51:07,530
tried wings, right. And people
said, All flight is impossible.
1717
01:51:07,770 –> 01:51:10,590
We also are in the same state.
When it comes to Social Systems,
1718
01:51:10,590 –> 01:51:15,390
we say, Oh, well, it’s just the
way it’s going to be right. The
1719
01:51:15,390 –> 01:51:17,730
Republicans and Democrats, you
have to vote for the lesser of
1720
01:51:17,730 –> 01:51:22,650
two evils, right? We have
figured out the Science of
1721
01:51:22,650 –> 01:51:26,790
Systems, so people can think for
themselves and go beyond left
1722
01:51:26,790 –> 01:51:30,990
and right that technology, that
infrastructure, is in a very
1723
01:51:30,990 –> 01:51:34,920
humble way we’ve created. And so
people now have a choice. Do you
1724
01:51:34,920 –> 01:51:38,220
want to remain on that dog
chasing the tail? Or do you want
1725
01:51:38,220 –> 01:51:40,590
to get educated or remain
enslaved? Do you want to be
1726
01:51:40,590 –> 01:51:44,040
smart? Or do you want to remain
dumb? It’s that simple. And
1727
01:51:44,040 –> 01:51:46,740
that’s what Truth, Freedom and
Health is? Do you want to
1728
01:51:46,740 –> 01:51:52,410
understand that? See, the elites
have a nuclear weapon, they
1729
01:51:52,410 –> 01:51:56,490
understand the Science of
Systems. And everyday Working
1730
01:51:56,490 –> 01:51:58,410
People are walking around with
bows and arrows, they’re never
1731
01:51:58,410 –> 01:52:02,280
gonna be able to defeat them. So
I fortunately was able to learn
1732
01:52:02,280 –> 01:52:05,340
all this stuff, we’ve been able
to make it. So it’s a gift to
1733
01:52:05,370 –> 01:52:09,750
Working People. And we want to
ensure that people at least have
1734
01:52:09,750 –> 01:52:13,470
a fighting chance. So the goal
is, do you want to be educated?
1735
01:52:13,500 –> 01:52:16,320
Or do you want to be enslaved?
Do you want to have self respect
1736
01:52:16,320 –> 01:52:20,940
for yourself? You want to be
accountable? Do you want to be
1737
01:52:20,940 –> 01:52:25,140
an adult and you truly care for
your children? Or do you want to
1738
01:52:25,140 –> 01:52:27,840
play the stupid game all day
long? I tell this to a lot of
1739
01:52:27,840 –> 01:52:31,050
people. Well, Trump said
something nice. Oh, AOC said
1740
01:52:31,050 –> 01:52:35,610
this, I go. You’re a child go
back to class, you didn’t learn
1741
01:52:35,610 –> 01:52:41,550
the principles. Okay. So the
fundamental issue is, we’ve
1742
01:52:41,550 –> 01:52:46,290
created an infrastructure,
Truth, Freedom and Health. Take
1743
01:52:46,290 –> 01:52:49,590
advantage of this, do it for
your future, do it for your
1744
01:52:49,590 –> 01:52:54,420
family, but get off this dog
chasing the tail, or decide that
1745
01:52:54,420 –> 01:52:57,150
you want to actually remain dumb
and keep chasing the tail.
1746
01:52:57,180 –> 01:53:01,560
That’s okay, too. You know,
people we know, we say, Yeah,
1747
01:53:01,560 –> 01:53:06,480
I’m an alcoholic, and I just,
that’s what I want to do. Great,
1748
01:53:06,510 –> 01:53:10,170
at least they’re being more
honest. So you have to come to
1749
01:53:10,170 –> 01:53:14,940
become honest. But, you know,
it’s it’s a technology. It’s a
1750
01:53:14,940 –> 01:53:17,610
movement. It’s an
infrastructure. It’s classes
1751
01:53:17,610 –> 01:53:21,780
we’ve created, if you want to do
it, great. If you don’t, that’s
1752
01:53:21,780 –> 01:53:22,380
also fine.
1753
01:53:23,880 –> 01:53:26,130
That’s it, Cathy. Okay,
1754
01:53:26,160 –> 01:53:30,240
Yeah. Could you send me some of
the, you know, information you
1755
01:53:30,240 –> 01:53:36,870
mentioned? Like, I think, oh,
especially the material relates
1756
01:53:36,870 –> 01:53:41,160
to the Twitter court case.
1757
01:53:41,190 –> 01:53:44,670
Yeah, go to win back. Yeah,
WinBackFreedom.com.
1758
01:53:45,120 –> 01:53:49,530
WinBackFreedom.com. Everything
is out there. It was me against
1759
01:53:49,530 –> 01:53:52,440
seven lawyers, three against
Twitter. Three. No, no lawyer
1760
01:53:52,440 –> 01:53:57,690
wanted to take it. We did it
ourselves. We won many cases. In
1761
01:53:57,690 –> 01:54:00,090
fact, the judge just simply
wanted to put me back on Twitter
1762
01:54:00,090 –> 01:54:03,270
to quiet me down. He wanted me
to drop all the lawsuits against
1763
01:54:03,270 –> 01:54:06,360
the government. I wouldn’t I
refuse to I wouldn’t settle.
1764
01:54:07,110 –> 01:54:10,710
Alex Berenson settled. You know,
he’s part of that little
1765
01:54:10,710 –> 01:54:15,240
refusenik elite. We’re outside
of that. You see pseudo
1766
01:54:15,240 –> 01:54:16,170
refuseniks?
1767
01:54:17,490 –> 01:54:21,510
So was it any one media report
on that case?
1768
01:54:21,720 –> 01:54:26,430
Oh, yeah, there was alternative
media report reported it. The
1769
01:54:26,507 –> 01:54:30,908
issue is a true Bottoms-up
movement like ours will always
1770
01:54:30,985 –> 01:54:35,541
be invisible in the mainstream
media because we’re the real
1771
01:54:35,618 –> 01:54:40,406
thing. The mainstream media will
never report on Truth Freedom
1772
01:54:40,483 –> 01:54:45,039
Health, because it’s the real
thing. They will report after
1773
01:54:45,116 –> 01:54:49,826
the building is burned down and
then they’ll create their own
1774
01:54:49,903 –> 01:54:54,614
fake heroes. That’s the nature
of it right? Because they want
1775
01:54:54,691 –> 01:54:57,780
people to be manipulated by fake
heroes.
1776
01:55:00,270 –> 01:55:05,160
Yeah if you just allow me one
minute is I was meant to ask you
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01:55:05,280 –> 01:55:11,970
so the emails is an email you
created versus now everybody’s
1778
01:55:11,970 –> 01:55:16,320
using by what is there a
difference or?
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01:55:16,650 –> 01:55:20,340
No so this is what’s interesting
these people after went into
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01:55:20,340 –> 01:55:22,470
submission they said oh, what he
created No, it’s the exact same
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01:55:22,470 –> 01:55:26,850
system is the fundamentally the
car different than it was
1782
01:55:26,850 –> 01:55:30,330
created before? It has those two
wheels, two things, etc. Right.
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01:55:30,960 –> 01:55:34,740
So when this went into the
Smithsonian, you had wiki pedia
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01:55:36,060 –> 01:55:38,970
create all called me. I was
called all sorts of horrible
1785
01:55:38,970 –> 01:55:43,440
names. I can repeat them. You
can bleep them out asshole Dick
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01:55:43,440 –> 01:55:46,050
fraud. Gawker Media call me
these names. They said this
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01:55:46,050 –> 01:55:49,860
curry Stein, Indian should be
beaten and hanged. Why? Why?
1788
01:55:50,280 –> 01:55:55,020
Exactly why? Because during the
30 years ago, I didn’t promote
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01:55:55,020 –> 01:55:59,100
myself. They had found a white
guy with glasses and a beard and
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01:55:59,130 –> 01:56:01,950
nothing against white people.
But he fit the narrative of a
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01:56:01,950 –> 01:56:06,630
nerd who had simply done text
messaging. And Raytheon, the
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01:56:06,630 –> 01:56:10,020
defense company had branded him
as the inventor of email when my
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01:56:10,020 –> 01:56:13,200
stuff went into the Smithsonian.
It was like a skull, a new skull
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01:56:13,200 –> 01:56:19,620
was found in Africa. And the
abuse that I underwent was
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01:56:19,650 –> 01:56:22,440
disgusting. People said all the
email that you create, no, it’s
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01:56:22,440 –> 01:56:25,050
the exact same system. But the
problem is you weren’t allowed
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01:56:25,050 –> 01:56:30,780
to do software patents in 1978.
You say? Copyright doesn’t
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01:56:30,780 –> 01:56:35,040
protect all the parts the
design. So my system went into
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01:56:35,040 –> 01:56:37,350
the Library of Congress, and
then other people started
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01:56:37,350 –> 01:56:39,960
replicating it. Look at
everything I had in my system.
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01:56:39,960 –> 01:56:44,610
It’s all the same parts. So
these historians, many liberal
1802
01:56:44,610 –> 01:56:49,500
historians, wanted to denigrate
the fact that email wasn’t
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01:56:49,500 –> 01:56:52,440
invented at MIT, Harvard by the
military, it was created in
1804
01:56:52,440 –> 01:56:55,050
Newark, New Jersey, you see, the
narrative is that all great
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01:56:55,050 –> 01:57:00,090
innovations must come from after
you go to MIT and Harvard. So
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01:57:00,090 –> 01:57:04,350
you can drop out of Harvard,
like Zuckerberg, OR gates, and
1807
01:57:04,350 –> 01:57:07,530
then you’re anointed as someone
intelligent, you say. So I
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01:57:07,530 –> 01:57:09,870
invented many things when I was
at MIT when I was on the front
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01:57:09,870 –> 01:57:12,960
page. But I said email was
invented before I came to MIT.
1810
01:57:12,960 –> 01:57:16,860
Cathy, this is dangerous,
because it means innovation can
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01:57:16,860 –> 01:57:21,030
occur anytime, anyplace by
anybody. Eventually, you know,
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01:57:21,030 –> 01:57:24,870
that organization which, four
years later, I found a lawyer.
1813
01:57:25,050 –> 01:57:29,910
We sued Gawker Media, we drove
them into bankruptcy. I got a
1814
01:57:29,910 –> 01:57:34,110
million dollars and still on
Wikipedia. They call me a
1815
01:57:34,110 –> 01:57:38,850
conspiracy theorists all this
because, in fact, a Wikipedia
1816
01:57:38,850 –> 01:57:42,090
editor wrote to me goes SHIVA, I
attempted to give you credit for
1817
01:57:42,090 –> 01:57:45,900
the invention of email. And I
was called this name, this name,
1818
01:57:45,900 –> 01:57:50,310
this name. He goes, your article
on email is so volatile, as big
1819
01:57:50,310 –> 01:57:52,110
as abortion and the Second
Amendment.
1820
01:57:52,650 –> 01:57:56,280
You know why Cathy? Because
email was invented before I came
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01:57:56,280 –> 01:58:01,860
to MIT. This is very
fundamental. The invention of
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01:58:01,860 –> 01:58:04,740
email is a story that should be
shared everywhere. So all these
1823
01:58:04,740 –> 01:58:07,080
people well, I don’t know if
email that he created then is
1824
01:58:07,080 –> 01:58:09,900
different. Some people even said
uppercase email is different
1825
01:58:09,900 –> 01:58:16,170
than lowercase email. The
disgusting nonsense if I was
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01:58:16,170 –> 01:58:20,100
blond haired, I hate to say this
is not being racist, blonde
1827
01:58:20,100 –> 01:58:23,400
haired, blue eyed. And maybe my
last name was a Jewish name. I’d
1828
01:58:23,400 –> 01:58:27,600
be on every stamp on in the
United States, guaranteed. And I
1829
01:58:27,600 –> 01:58:35,280
had invented email at MIT. And
by the way, a 14 year old boys
1830
01:58:35,280 –> 01:58:39,570
want to invent a TV 60 years it
took them to get the full
1831
01:58:39,570 –> 01:58:45,000
credit, but the facts are so
obvious. The the the question on
1832
01:58:45,000 –> 01:58:49,470
this is why was there even any
question? I wrote the code name,
1833
01:58:49,470 –> 01:59:01,770
did email and have the copyright
it’s disgusting. I mean, some
1834
01:59:01,800 –> 01:59:04,740
people said a curry stain Indian
should be beaten and hanged for
1835
01:59:04,740 –> 01:59:09,750
even claiming this. Four degrees
at MIT Fulbright Scholar front
1836
01:59:09,750 –> 01:59:14,070
page of MIT. The issue is and
Walter Isaacson, the liberal
1837
01:59:14,070 –> 01:59:18,450
elite during in 2015, he wrote a
big book, called the Innovators
1838
01:59:18,450 –> 01:59:19,620
of the Digital Revolution.
1839
01:59:19,650 –> 01:59:21,870
Is an email part of the digital
revolution, Cathy?
1840
01:59:23,160 –> 01:59:24,960
Well, you ask people.
1841
01:59:25,530 –> 01:59:30,480
Isn’t it? What in his book, he
talks about all the great
1842
01:59:30,480 –> 01:59:35,370
inventions of the internet? He
left out email. All the people
1843
01:59:35,370 –> 01:59:37,830
in there are all again, white
people should not take this
1844
01:59:37,830 –> 01:59:40,980
seriously. It’s not against
white people. Everyone is a
1845
01:59:40,980 –> 01:59:45,060
white person who invented stuff.
No yellow people, no brown
1846
01:59:45,060 –> 01:59:50,970
people, no black people. And all
of those people were from the
1847
01:59:50,970 –> 01:59:53,880
military industrial complex, big
universities, big military, you
1848
01:59:53,880 –> 02:00:01,020
say? The truth is that if you
create something out of the
1849
02:00:01,020 –> 02:00:06,300
elites. Great innovations must
come after you go to MIT and you
1850
02:00:06,300 –> 02:00:08,850
get anointed see the problem
they have with me Cathy is I
1851
02:00:08,850 –> 02:00:11,190
went to MIT, I created many
things.
1852
02:00:11,220 –> 02:00:13,950
But I also did stuff before I
came to MIT. And typically
1853
02:00:13,950 –> 02:00:16,380
people like me are dead before
they write the histories you
1854
02:00:16,380 –> 02:00:21,570
say, or after they write the
history. The invention of email
1855
02:00:21,570 –> 02:00:26,100
is the most powerful story
because it exposes not just the
1856
02:00:26,100 –> 02:00:30,900
fact a 14 year old boy invented
email, but it exposes the
1857
02:00:30,930 –> 02:00:36,810
elites. Bullshit, that all great
innovations must come from war
1858
02:00:37,080 –> 02:00:44,160
must come from big business must
come from big universities. By
1859
02:00:44,160 –> 02:00:46,380
the way, a Michigan mechanic is
the one who created the wind
1860
02:00:46,380 –> 02:00:51,900
wiper, a 14 year old boy Philo
Farnsworth create a TV 60 years
1861
02:00:51,900 –> 02:00:55,620
later, it took them to get their
credit he deserves. But everyone
1862
02:00:55,620 –> 02:01:01,950
listening to your audience
should recognize that the
1863
02:01:01,950 –> 02:01:05,550
invention of email is really
about your child and his future
1864
02:01:05,550 –> 02:01:09,270
because it says that does he
need to go to MIT and Harvard or
1865
02:01:09,300 –> 02:01:14,250
Silicon Valley and then he gets
credit. The problem they have
1866
02:01:14,250 –> 02:01:16,500
with the invention of email is I
have all the code. I named it
1867
02:01:16,500 –> 02:01:20,790
email, I have the copyright. And
then people say, well, uppercase
1868
02:01:20,790 –> 02:01:23,670
email is different than
lowercase email nonsense. Noam
1869
02:01:23,670 –> 02:01:25,920
Chomsky, the great linguist
said, that means you’d have to
1870
02:01:25,920 –> 02:01:30,180
have two dictionaries. Car
capital car is different than
1871
02:01:30,180 –> 02:01:36,090
lowercase car. You see what I’m
saying? It’s just irrational, a
1872
02:01:36,090 –> 02:01:37,500
child throwing tantrums.
1873
02:01:40,140 –> 02:01:45,990
Wow. All right. Yeah. Thank you,
again, for your sharing.
1874
02:01:46,260 –> 02:01:48,630
Yeah. So you should a couple of
sites, you may want to use their
1875
02:01:48,660 –> 02:01:51,720
inventorofemail.com. You may
want to write this down.
1876
02:01:52,230 –> 02:01:55,920
WinBackFreedom.com You’ll
understand our whole lawsuit.
1877
02:01:55,920 –> 02:01:58,140
Everything’s documented. And
truthfreedomhealth.com.
1878
02:02:00,120 –> 02:02:01,380
Everything is documented.
1879
02:02:03,660 –> 02:02:04,290
Wonderful.
1880
02:02:04,320 –> 02:02:04,830
Yep.
1881
02:02:06,270 –> 02:02:06,990
All right.
1882
02:02:07,650 –> 02:02:09,810
All right, Cathy. Very nice
speaking to you.
1883
02:02:10,320 –> 02:02:11,460
Yeah, I mean, I thank you.
1884
02:02:11,520 –> 02:02:16,590
Yeah. Be well. Be the light. I
wish you well, thank you for
1885
02:02:16,740 –> 02:02:20,460
calling us. Thank you for all
the work you guys do and the
1886
02:02:20,460 –> 02:02:21,030
recording.
1887
02:02:22,080 –> 02:02:23,100
All right. Thank you.
1888
02:02:23,130 –> 02:02:25,620
Okay. Be well take care. Bye
bye.
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02:02:29,010 –> 02:02:33,390
So, to everyone listening, that
was an interview I just did with
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02:02:33,390 –> 02:02:37,470
a, a organization. And she asked
some great questions. But all of
1891
02:02:37,470 –> 02:02:41,460
you listening, if you’ve sat
here for the whole afternoon,
1892
02:02:42,300 –> 02:02:46,170
you have a choice to make today,
is it? Do you want to really
1893
02:02:46,170 –> 02:02:49,800
learn this and you want to get
off the left/right Habitrail. If
1894
02:02:49,800 –> 02:02:53,790
so, go to truthfreedomhealth.com
become a Warrior contribute,
1895
02:02:53,820 –> 02:02:57,570
it’s nothing. You guys waste a
lot of money, doing all sorts of
1896
02:02:57,570 –> 02:03:00,240
other things. I know many of you
spend money in wacky ways I’ve
1897
02:03:00,240 –> 02:03:06,990
made it so accessible. Or come
to our Orientation, which is
1898
02:03:06,990 –> 02:03:09,810
this Thursday. And you can learn
you can meet some amazing
1899
02:03:09,810 –> 02:03:13,710
people. But regardless, you need
to support this not for me, but
1900
02:03:13,710 –> 02:03:18,120
for yourself. You have an
opportunity to stop, you know,
1901
02:03:19,230 –> 02:03:22,710
chasing your tail. And I just
put a thing down there VA, you
1902
02:03:22,710 –> 02:03:26,610
can go to the Orientation,
vashiva.com/orientation to
1903
02:03:26,610 –> 02:03:31,530
register, but support this
stuff. You know, we have a huge
1904
02:03:31,560 –> 02:03:34,590
movement of people who are
starting to learn this. And if
1905
02:03:34,590 –> 02:03:37,770
you learn this much, you got to
learn this again. And again and
1906
02:03:37,770 –> 02:03:41,130
again and again. But we’ve
created the infrastructure, it’s
1907
02:03:41,130 –> 02:03:44,850
a gift for you. You have no
excuse. We’ve created that nice,
1908
02:03:44,850 –> 02:03:47,880
beautiful infrastructure. You
come there, you’re gonna learn
1909
02:03:47,880 –> 02:03:51,510
the science. You’re gonna get a
great community people and every
1910
02:03:51,510 –> 02:03:56,040
week, we coach you, you know, do
this little thing this week,
1911
02:03:56,040 –> 02:04:00,960
handout 20 flyers. So you can go
to bed every Saturday or Sunday
1912
02:04:00,960 –> 02:04:03,570
knowing wow, I actually did
something. I’m no longer
1913
02:04:03,570 –> 02:04:10,110
desperate. I’m no longer
hopeless. So get off your butts.
1914
02:04:11,340 –> 02:04:16,890
And do your historic duty. Okay,
you have no excuse. All right,
1915
02:04:16,980 –> 02:04:20,790
we’ve created on a silver
platter. And if you want, if you
1916
02:04:20,790 –> 02:04:24,240
think I should charge like
$50,000.00, $5,000, and that’ll
1917
02:04:24,240 –> 02:04:27,570
make it more prestigious for you
to take it. We can do that.
1918
02:04:27,630 –> 02:04:30,990
Okay, but we made it too
accessible perhaps or very
1919
02:04:30,990 –> 02:04:35,430
accessible because we want to
help Working People. So I hope
1920
02:04:35,430 –> 02:04:40,050
this conversation was valuable.
But take advantage of this. It’s
1921
02:04:40,050 –> 02:04:44,640
really for you, okay, and get
off this left/right bullshit,
1922
02:04:44,790 –> 02:04:45,390
okay.
1923
02:04:45,690 –> 02:04:51,480
Or, you know, don’t get educated
and continue to be abused. I
1924
02:04:51,480 –> 02:04:55,170
just want to end with this
video. And get off your butts.
1925
02:04:55,200 –> 02:04:58,500
We hope to see you on Thursday.
support this movement. It’s
1926
02:04:58,500 –> 02:05:00,960
nothing you’re supporting all
The infrastructure that we’re
1927
02:05:00,960 –> 02:05:03,750
creating for you. Let me play
this video. And I wish you all
1928
02:05:03,750 –> 02:05:05,940
well watch this video, it will
inspire you.
1929
02:05:05,970 –> 02:05:09,335
We have allowed our country to
be taken over from within. And
1930
02:05:09,391 –> 02:05:12,867
the end goal is you will have a
homogenized world where we will
1931
02:05:12,922 –> 02:05:16,233
become slaves, because there is
a condition among the elites
1932
02:05:16,288 –> 02:05:19,212
that really thinks they’re
better than you. Deep down
1933
02:05:19,267 –> 02:05:22,468
inside them, that you don’t
deserve the freedoms you have.
1934
02:05:22,523 –> 02:05:25,944
They don’t this reality is what
people need to wake up to. And
1935
02:05:25,999 –> 02:05:28,979
we need to all unite Working
People, there is only one
1936
02:05:29,034 –> 02:05:32,510
movement that can do that. That
is the movement that we started
1937
02:05:32,565 –> 02:05:35,876
creating here messages, the
movement for truth, freedom, and
1938
02:05:35,931 –> 02:05:39,518
I’ll look I’ve been a student of
politics since I was a four year
1939
02:05:39,573 –> 02:05:43,104
old kid, studying revolutionary
movements, left wing right wing,
1940
02:05:43,160 –> 02:05:46,305
there’s a physics there’s a
nuclear science to destroying
1941
02:05:46,360 –> 02:05:49,671
the establishment. To build a
bridge, you need to understand
1942
02:05:49,726 –> 02:05:53,147
Newton’s equation, you need to
understand the laws of gravity,
1943
02:05:53,202 –> 02:05:56,734
you need to understand Poissons
ratio, there is a way to build a
1944
02:05:56,789 –> 02:06:00,155
revolution. And that’s why I put
this together. My goal is to
1945
02:06:00,210 –> 02:06:03,465
train a army of truth, freedom
and health leaders. We don’t
1946
02:06:03,520 –> 02:06:06,776
need followers like social
media, we need leaders, but they
1947
02:06:06,831 –> 02:06:09,811
they need training because
educational system does not
1948
02:06:09,866 –> 02:06:13,397
teach them history, nothing. So
in three hours, that’s what I’ve
1949
02:06:13,453 –> 02:06:16,267
started doing. That’s the
solution. We got to train
1950
02:06:16,322 –> 02:06:19,853
people. First with understanding
what a system is. The second is
1951
02:06:19,908 –> 02:06:22,557
understanding the
interconnection between Truth,
1952
02:06:22,612 –> 02:06:25,757
Freedom and Health. Freedom is
the ability to move freely
1953
02:06:25,812 –> 02:06:29,068
communicate freely, right talk
freely. Without freedom, you
1954
02:06:29,123 –> 02:06:32,544
cannot convert ideas, hypothesis
into truth, which is science.
1955
02:06:32,599 –> 02:06:36,020
And without freedom, you can’t
really get to truth and without
1956
02:06:36,076 –> 02:06:39,607
truth, you make up fake problems
and fake solutions, which means
1957
02:06:39,662 –> 02:06:42,752
you destroy our health. And
without health, which is the
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02:06:42,807 –> 02:06:45,787
infrastructure of us and our
body. You can’t fight for
1959
02:06:45,842 –> 02:06:49,429
freedom. Third concept is it has
to be bottoms up Working People,
1960
02:06:49,484 –> 02:06:52,739
people who work united. And what
the right wing has done is
1961
02:06:52,795 –> 02:06:56,216
whatever you say Working People
Unite, that must be communist.
1962
02:06:56,271 –> 02:06:59,250
Meanwhile, they’ve let the
Democrats run Unions, which
1963
02:06:59,306 –> 02:07:02,506
suppress workers, completely
corrupt. But when you look at
1964
02:07:02,561 –> 02:07:05,762
the arc of American History,
it’s been when Working People
1965
02:07:05,817 –> 02:07:09,017
came up, we need to go local.
Every solution I’m coming up
1966
02:07:09,072 –> 02:07:12,548
with as a part of this movement,
we’re giving the science which
1967
02:07:12,604 –> 02:07:15,859
is a truth. And then we tell
people what they can do on the
1968
02:07:15,914 –> 02:07:19,004
ground. Like with election
fraud. You don’t need to wait
1969
02:07:19,059 –> 02:07:22,370
for some lawyer. Our goal is to
train people they have to go
1970
02:07:22,425 –> 02:07:25,736
local to go local to go local
fight locally. Forget lawyers,
1971
02:07:25,791 –> 02:07:29,047
forget politicians, forget
celebrities, you’ve got to learn
1972
02:07:29,102 –> 02:07:32,413
politics, and there is a science
to it, they lock us down we
1973
02:07:32,468 –> 02:07:35,613
should be ready to shut them
down. And the fourth part of
1974
02:07:35,668 –> 02:07:38,813
this principle is a not so
obvious establishment. So when
1975
02:07:38,868 –> 02:07:42,179
you look at a system, there’s
always something that disturbs
1976
02:07:42,234 –> 02:07:45,490
you from getting to your goal
when the biggest disturbances
1977
02:07:45,545 –> 02:07:48,249
the not so obvious
establishment, which are those
1978
02:07:48,304 –> 02:07:51,670
people who claim there for you
on the left and the right, the
1979
02:07:51,725 –> 02:07:54,815
Al Sharpton to tell black people
I’m for you. The Tucker
1980
02:07:54,870 –> 02:07:58,346
Carlson’s. Do you think any true
anti establishment person will
1981
02:07:58,402 –> 02:08:01,602
ever be on Fox or CNN? I don’t
think so. They both mislead
1982
02:08:01,657 –> 02:08:05,023
Working People back into the
establishment without this solid
1983
02:08:05,078 –> 02:08:08,003
understanding of political
physics and theory, you’re
1984
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screwed, you’re going to follow
on the left wing Bernie Sanders
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Oh, he said something or Robert
Kennedy scumbags. Or you’re
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going to follow you know, some
right wing talk show host.
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They’re not going to lead us
deliberation, it’s us. And that
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political physics, it’s a
nuclear science of change.
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Bottoms-up. We have to organize
to understand that there is
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people who talk a good game, and
then look at what they actually
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do left and right. I’m sorry,
Sean Hannity may say some good
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things, but I don’t see the
urgency in his voice to get
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something done. And it can only
come when you weaponize yourself
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with the right knowledge, you
need to be able to identify a
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rat. You know, Christ didn’t go
after the Romans, right. It was
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the Pharisees and the Sadducees,
who screwed him up his own quote
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unquote, people. And that’s
where we’re at. So these four
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concepts are built into a
curriculum, people can go to
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VASHIVA.com. And it’s an
educational program, we need to
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train people in political
theory, you need to have
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physics, and I’ve created that
curriculum. People need to get
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educated, we need to get
educated fast. And within half
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an hour, an hour, I can teach
people two years of MIT Control
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Systems, I teach people those
concepts that I apply it, anyone
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can understand it. And then you
say, Oh, I gotta build a
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Bottoms-up movement. They have
to get politically astute. And
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then they have to go locally and
act not sit there on social
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media, they have to act locally,
defy locally, do civil obedience
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locally, but with knowledge on
how to build a movement, and the
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Senate campaigns expanded to the
movement for Truth, Freedom and
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Health and they can find it on V
as in Victor, a Shiva V A
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SHIVA.com. So people can sign
into it can get access to a
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bunch of videos, if they want to
take a course and become a truth
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freedom health leader, I offer a
full scholarship there, but we
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want people to make a commitment
that they’ll study that they’ll
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get certified that they’ll go do
activities on the ground. So go
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to V A Shiva Victory Amerirca
Shiva. VASHIVA.com
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Alright, everyone, I hope this
was valuable it was a great
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interaction was two hours and 10
minutes. Everyone probably
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should be aware that you know,
we have a global movement. And
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most importantly, all of you
have an opportunity to
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participate in this to learn,
teach and serve. So take
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advantage of this contribute go
to Truth for unhealth you can
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contribute whatever you want.
But when you contribute, you get
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back a lot of gifts. So that’s
all it is. It’s all here for
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you. And please take advantage
of this.
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Have a good day, wherever you
are. Good day. Good evening. And
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I want to thank all of you guys
for participating. There’s some
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great comments here. It’s really
nice to see the community come
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out and start educating everyone
also as we’re doing these talks.
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Thank you, everyone. Be well. Be
the light.
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