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All right, good evening. Good morning. Good afternoon. Wherever you guys are. This is Dr. Shiva. Today. We’re going to continue our interview, but we’re going to focus on the topics of how do we really shatter the swarm? What is it going to take to shatter the swarm? And for those of you who are just joining us, that’s what the discussion is going to be about how we actually shatter the swarm.

When I look at the questions we’re going to go through, the theme of that is. What does it take to shatter the swarm? One is intellectually asking questions. The other is intellect and theories, one thing, but action is everything else. And everyone knows our movement for truth, freedom, health is really about shattering the swarm.

All right, everyone. We’re going to be discussing today about what is it going to take to shatter the swarm? Most of you know that I’ve spent my entire life really As a system scientist as an engineer or as a inventor in many areas, but my fundamental area that I’ve really been motivated by is how do we transform systems not work from within?

But how do we actually fundamentally change them? How do we get off the plantation? And as we’re going to talk about is how do we actually shatter the swarm? It takes a lot of effort for people to really understand what a movement is. People use that word. But 99 percent of people have never actually built a movement.

They don’t understand the theoretical basis. They’ve never built anything in their lives. The word build is actually a word that they use, but they frankly have never built a company. They’ve never built any type of innovation. They’ve never built software. They’ve never built any technology. They’ve never Let’s say worked on a farm.

So they use these words in a very lackadaisical manner. But these words are very powerful things. And we’re going to talk about that. What is the swarm? What does it take to shatter them? What is the current conditions we have? And I hope to make this very practical rather than just theoretical and sort of mental masturbation.

Some people just like to have these random discussions. And I’m going to keep it very real, as so it’s not something random. So let me bring our interviewer here. Are you there? Hello? Yeah. Oh, good. I’m here. Can you hear me? Yeah, good. So let’s just start. I want to emphasize, we’ll take a couple of breaks.

I have about an hour from now. We want to emphasize to everyone before we start, I’m running for president of the United States. We don’t do enough. Actually selling our campaign, telling you guys to take action. But I have to do that. Otherwise I’d be remiss. Everyone should go to Shiva for president.

com. And it’s really important that you guys participate rather than just be on the sidelines. That’s not what this is about. So go to Shiva for president. com, get one of these bumper stickers and put it on the back windshield of your car. You’ll reach about a hundred thousand people daily, and you’ll also have a profound impact because you’ll see a lot of people say, Hey, what is that?

Who is that guy? Why are you doing that? Why aren’t you supporting Biden or boobie or, Trumper, right? And you’ll have good discussions, but anyway, that’s what we’re going to start with. So let’s just jump right in. We’ll take a, another break to really talk about the movement for truth, freedom, health, and every one of you should be a truth, freedom, health warrior.

We’ll take another break and then we’ll come back. Let’s jump right in. Okay, Dr Shiva. I heard all that. I understand you will nix and or respond to any question in the context of shattering the swarm. That’s fine. No problem. Yeah, but being that this is within the within our forum, I’ll approach it our way.

And then again, you do you appreciate or attack? Yeah, you’re going in and out. You’re going in and out. Yeah, but maybe you should speak closer to the mic, but. All right, let’s just go. What about now? Yeah, much. Okay, welcome. Welcome to the matrices warrior chronicles where we search for the one day for three twenty four.

We continue with Dr Shiva of Shiva for president dot com by asking questions from directly by carefully rehearing our two twenty three twenty four first interview link to at matrices dot sub stack dot com. Dr Shiva. Next question. Have you studied matrices Our recent article posted at matrices.

substack. com encouraging you as if in a martial arts strategy hyphen technique to use the opponent’s energy against them to embrace rather than fight the claim that you’re not natural born by asserting I am natural born in addition to being naturalized and here’s the evidence proving it. Such as family registry records and or birth certificate affidavits from family members knowing you since a child Showing you are not a werewolf not an extraterrestrial but a living breathing man Just as the founders of the u.

s constitution had in mind if not, we strongly encourage you to use that document with all the great ideas so none can say you’ve not proven Your natural born status as opposed to unnaturally born by cloning or test tubes or whatever your thoughts. Yeah. So I think the best thing I want to do is. Let me just bring up a couple of things here, which I think I can share.

I may have to go from your medium. To mine, but let me see if I can do this here. I’m going to share something with you. Okay, so let me bring this up here.

I have to, I think I have to share. I’m going to stop your screen and share my screen. So you can actually see this. I have to go here, say chrome tab. Okay.

All right. So you should be able to see my screen. You see it. Okay. Let me bring something up here to set context on this. The obviously, I’m naturally born and we’ve discussed that in many of our things. So this is not a new thing. The state of Wyoming. Recently asked me to prove that I’m naturally born.

I’ll show you the letter that we’re gonna be sending to them. But the practical issue right now that’s going on is the following. If you look at the context of this how the courts look at it and how others look at it. Obviously I can say I’m naturally born. I came out of my mother’s womb and all that.

Okay. That’s over here. The reality is to the average person who’s been bamboozled they associate naturalized citizen not being naturally born. And therefore you cannot run for president. All right, that reality is coming not only from the concept of the founders never actually define what natural born was, or if natural born is natural born, you’re coming out of your mother’s womb.

You’re not sincere and you’re not in vitro. You’re not a robot. You’re not genetically clone. Let’s leave that over here. So I want to talk about the practicality of what’s going on. And it’s a very important understand. And Is that in the current context, when the founders put together Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution, they said there were 3 qualifications for being president.

In fact, they had a 4th, which was, they said he, which means only a woman only a man could be president. A lot of people forget this. That’s referred to that in the neighborhood of that clause, but the bottom line is you have to be 35 years. You have to be resident of the United States for 14 years and or live here for 14 years.

And you have to be quote, unquote, natural born, which is never defined. Interestingly enough, the Marquis de Lafayette some several years later was designated, was anointed as naturally born, even though he was not quote, unquote, even born on U. S. soil. And all of his heirs were denoted as naturally born.

All right. So this term was never defined, but more importantly, what people really need to understand Is that history moves forward and you have to look at where the arc of history is going the wave of history. So we had the 14th amendment, which had a very important clause in there, which was called the equal protection clause and that was in the 1800s.

And then after that, something also important occurred there was some very important court rulings. The Supreme Court ruling in Bolling v. Sharpe clearly stated that the 14th Amendment, which applied to equal protection at the state level, also applied at the federal level via 5th Amendment.

Simply put, the 14th Amendment and the 5th Amendment were made equal in a sense, so you cannot discriminate by race, natural origin at the federal level and also at the state level. Prior to the Bowling v. Sharpe ruling in 1954 the issue of equal protection was limited at the state level.

Federal government could theoretically discriminate, but bowling versus sharp was an important Supreme Court ruling that changed that then in 1964 directly to address this natural born and naturalized citizen issue. Another precedent setting seminal lawsuit took place was called Schneider versus Rusk and Schneider versus Rusk, a German.

Naturalized citizen had gone to live abroad. And when he tried to come back, the U. S. Government said, you cannot come back in. You’ve exceeded the time you’ve lived abroad because they had a rule saying a naturalized citizen. We lived abroad. I forget the exact number of years over 10 years. Could lose his citizenship.

Schneider argued this was nonsense because this didn’t apply to a natural born citizen. Anyway, the Supreme Court ruled in his favor unequivocally, stating a naturalized citizen and a natural born citizen are equal. Okay, very important to understand. The case should have ended there, but the problem is you don’t have people Understanding the law.

You don’t have people teaching the law. You don’t have people, students learning history or civics anymore. So the bottom line is when you put that set of the 14th amendment bowling versus sharp and Schneider versus Rusk and then in 2000 and 12, the FEC ruled. Unequivocally that a naturalized citizen can run for office for president specifically.

Okay. In 2011, there was an important, interesting event that took place. A guy called Hassan H. A. S. A. N. A lawyer filed a very theoretical lawsuit in that theoretical lawsuit. What he said was that he should be able to run as. President invoking the 14th amendment. Okay, very important. Understand this. The founders didn’t want theoretical shit occurring.

They wanted real bottoms up movements. So Hassan files in New Hampshire and in Colorado, where he was being denied ballot access because he was not a natural born citizen. In Colorado, it gets taken all the way up to the federal court and eventually to the 10th circuit court, which none other than Neil Gorsuch was a presiding judge, the circuit court judge.

Neil Gorsuch is everyone should know he’s now a Supreme Court justice. So Neil Gorsuch in the ruling in 2011 in Hassan versus Colorado Gorsuch ruled that the states have a lot of leeway that they can decide who they want to put on the ballot. Or not by invoking the constitution. Let me repeat that again.

Current Supreme Court justice 12 years ago in Hassan versus Colorado ruled that the courts have enormous leeway. They can decide if they want to invoke the constitution to keep a candidate off. That means the states he ruled have the rights to disqualify a candidate for president federal level running for office.

So everyone said, oh, there you go. See, a naturalized citizen cannot run for office. People would point at Hassan, alright? But right after that, the FEC ruled, in fact, he can run. Then the issue becomes Kenny, he be president now for forward to March 4, 20, 24. Literally about 30 days to the day. What happened on March 4th, 2024, the gentleman called Donald Trump is also thrown off the ballot.

In Colorado. Okay. I’m sorry. He was thrown off the ballot in Colorado several months before the Supreme Court overturned that ruling in Trump versus Anderson. Anderson was the plaintiff. In Colorado, he said, look, Trump tried to overthrow the U. S. Government violating section three of the 14th amendment.

So he asserts a constitutional provision and says, this guy is unqualified. Just like someone asserting article two, section one saying Hassan was unqualified at the state level. Anyway, that goes up to the state. Lower courts state appeals court and ends up at the state Supreme Court of Colorado and the Supreme Court of Colorado rules that indeed the state has the leeway they can disqualify a candidate for president by invoking the constitution.

In this case, it was section three article sorry, section three, the 14th amendment in Hassan’s case in Colorado. It was article two, section one. Anyway, boom, that goes up to the Supreme court. What is the Supreme court rule? The Supreme court unequivocally in a nine Oh decision, nine Oh, even the left and the right, whatever the fake left and the right, they all agree that, and this is very important that only Congress of the United States, only Congress of the United States, Can have any say for a federal official, like the person running for president who gets qualified or disqualified to get on the ballot.

Very important. They said that the states can disqualify or qualify a state official, but the states, except for, let’s say, notwithstanding. Oh, you have to get so many signatures or some electors to get on the ballot. They cannot invoke the constitution. Absolutely not. And guess who also was part of that 9 0 ruling?

Neil Gorsuch. So what happened? Why is Neil Gorsuch in 2024 agreeing that the states cannot keep a presidential candidate off the ballot, but the same Neil Gorsuch 12 years before said Hassan could be kept off the ballot by invoking the constitution? What’s the difference? I’ll tell you what the difference is.

Hassan was running a theoretical campaign. It wasn’t real. The founders didn’t want randomly people just poking the bear of the constitution and this is what a movement is. He didn’t have a movement. He wasn’t running for office. He wasn’t out there building a website. He didn’t have hundreds of thousands of volunteers collecting signatures like I do.

When I filed on January 2023. Knowing that the swarm would attack my efforts to get on the ballot. I have, I filed what’s called the declaratory relief lawsuit. Declaratory relief says, hey, government, and we filed the lawsuit against Merrick Garland and the D. C. board of elections saying, look, I believe that when I try to run you, some of the states are going to try to throw me off saying you’re not quote unquote natural born.

I did that in June of 2023. About 2 months ago. Indeed, Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States and the D. C. Board of Elections said, Oh, you cannot run because you’re not natural born. Now, check this out. The main reason that they cited was that you don’t have a real campaign. Very important.

And that brings up this document. Very important to understand this. Otherwise, this is where people need to understand theory versus practice. So let me bring this up. So what am I talking about when I say that? What I’m talking about is this very important document. So they, so what happens when you file a lawsuit, you’re the plaintiff filing a lawsuit against the defendant.

The defendants typically go to the courts and they try to file a motion to dismiss, which is basically tell the judge, there’s nothing here. This guy shouldn’t even be in the courts. He has no standing. Okay. Let’s dismiss this case. That’s what they typically try to do. So they said they didn’t lead with natural born.

So it’s fascinating. They said he has no standing because he’s really not running for office. They wanted to use that basis to invoke Hassan. Here’s a problem. I want to show this to you because you’ll see how we got them by the balls on this. Okay. So here, by the way, I filed my own lawsuits. And this is a lawsuit that I filed and it says plaintiff’s opposition to their motion to dismiss.

So it says, I just want to point out a couple of highlights. The plaintiff, Dr. Shiva, a bona fide candidate for president respectfully submits his opposition to defend his motion dismiss. This court must. Must notice. I say bonafide candidate for president. Very important. I use that. The court must deny the defendant’s motion dismissed since defendants arguments are premised defendants, meaning the opposition on four false misrepresentation, by the way, these are the defendants here.

Okay. Four false misrepresentations, one of which is a bold face lie for which this court must sanction the attorneys. Look at what they wrote. In their motion to dismiss everyone got to read this. Okay. It says the defendants. I said the defendants argument that plaintiff black standing is based on a big lie.

This is what they wrote quote. They didn’t talk about natural born. They said the candidacies no more than theoretical and plaintiff has not. Taken any steps in support of this purported candidacy for president, such as assembling a campaign apparatus, engaging in political advertising, creating a website or completing any formal documentation.

Think about this bold faced lie. Why are they saying this? Because they want me to equate me with Hassan, not Trump. Both cases a constitution was invoked. I said a few keystrokes on the internet. Immediately brings up the campaign website. Here it is. Which plaintiff or candidate launched concomitant with this formal campaign movement.

I made it very clear that it is hard for this plaintiff and should be for this court to believe that in the year 2024, Gary Thompson, his attorneys are incapable of using the Internet to find this website. Discovery in this case will reveal the reason for defendants making such an egregious misrepresentation.

So that’s the first point. And then we submitted 140 page affidavit with pictures after pictures of all of our people on the campaign ground in all 50 states. So these guys are fucked. Okay, in terms of the fact that they led with this completely egregious lie, the 2nd thing. So we give all the evidence.

We also expose the fact that the D. C. Board of elections said, oh, he’s not even running for office in D. C. Well, they haven’t even released the papers to run for office. We then go very clearly through their other misrepresentations. The other misrepresentation is that the defense presented to this court that the state officials, federal officials may deny a presidential candidate access to the state’s ballot by disqualifying the candidate on constitutional grounds.

This is absolutely false because Trump was denied initially as an insurrectionist, They can’t deny me as even natural born because the Supreme Court on March 2024 revealed or decided that only Congress can do that. All right. The next thing is they forget they believe that it’s okay to discriminate.

You cannot discriminate between a natural born citizen and a naturalized citizen. That was already been adjudicated in the courts. And finally, they say I face no imminent injury. The reality is in Wyoming, we got a letter saying, They won’t even give us a papers to get the signatures in Utah. After we collected all the signatures.

Now they’re asking me for my natural born proof. I don’t have to show that. It’s that would be like saying, show me that you’re white. Okay. That’s called absolute racist national origin discrimination. And then finally in the argument section, we go through number one, Congress is the only entity that can decide my qualifications.

If I’m qualified or not, that’s been adjudicated. That’s here. The second thing we make sure very clearly here is that we want to refer to the Hassan case. That Hassan, we agree, was not a bona fide candidate. He was just a lawyer trying to poke the bear. I’m actually a real candidate. We have a movement. We have hundreds of thousands of people helping collect signatures.

And finally, we expose the fact that they both face lie to the court. And then, the Equal Protection Clause under the law, it is illegal to ask me to prove that I’m natural born or not. I don’t have to go down that route. It’s illegal. Okay. And then the 4th thing, the 3rd thing is we actually have immediately of injury because even the D.

C. board said, even if you come here, we’re going to throw you off. Anyway, what’s powerful about our opposition? Is that they did not expect me to write an opposition. Okay, they expected to think that I would just, cower away, write some garbage. Opposition, but we’ve written something quite extraordinary.

So that is really the issue. I don’t need to argue. I’m natural born or not. Because it’s already been adjudicated. You cannot discriminate between a natural born citizen, natural born. So I’m not going to go on their playing ground. So I hope you understand that. Dr. Shiva, with all due respect, no one would dispute that you are brilliant.

No doubt a lot of people hate you, but they certainly respect you for your brilliance and your actions. However, you’re missing the point. We’ll quote the line from the movie, a few good men on the Tom Cruise lawyer character says to the Demi More lawyer character privately in a restaurant conversation.

You need to emotionally prepare yourself for the fact that we’re going to lose. We’re going to lose big. The courts are little more than, in our opinion, criminals that legalize themselves than use public schools to brainwash people to think that they’re legitimate. So if this thing goes to the U. S.

Supreme Court, There’s absolutely nothing that can be done to stop them from simply either not hearing the issue at all. Or if they hear it, put some nonsense down on the paper and then you have to live with it. You need to prepare yourself, sir. I think. Yeah, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. How many court cases have you filed and litigated in federal court?

Quite a few. You’ve actually litigated in federal court. Litigator on every level. Okay. So if you watch our lawsuits, we know the courts are screwed up. You don’t need to, mentor me on this. We have always told our people the courts are screwed up, but to try to say, oh, I’m natural born and prove that is not going to get you anywhere.

That is mistaken. The approach here is to get to the point very clearly. I don’t have to prove that and we’re not here to educate the courts. We’re here mobilizing people and you need to get this very clear. Because this is the essence of why how we shattered the swarm. We’re not here to go in a legalist route, like a bunch of these constitutionalists do all day and jack off all day and mentally masturbate.

We’re not here to go run for office for the sake of winning a political seat. We’re building the movement. And when you build the movement, to the extent that the fighting on very fair grounds in a lawsuit exposes a contradictions, we win anyway. Do you understand what I’m saying? You need to really get this because you seem to think that we think we’re going to win in the courts because we know they’re fair.

Absolutely corrupt. But if I didn’t run in 2020 for my U. S. Senate campaign, if I didn’t discover the backdoor portal to Twitter and we didn’t expose it to bear view, half a billion people throughout the world would not know this. That occurred because we did run and you need to get that. We’re building a movement.

We’re not here to file lawsuits. So you can tell that to people who are naively filing lawsuits. You need to understand that we are building a bottoms up movement and you and all your friends should get involved in that. You guys should help us collect signatures. Why? Because you start facing the state, it becomes real, it’s not theoretical.

And that’s what needs to happen. People need to get their hands dirty a little bit, understand how the state behaves, because if it’s just in the head, they don’t really understand what a movement is are filing that lawsuit. That lawsuit in particular brings up the contradictions.

Sir, respectfully you’re somewhat temperamental. So you tend to interrupt while we’re trying to complete a thought, which is fine. We can respect that. We try not to interrupt you as you speak, but the, we acknowledge that you’re talking to me, but you’re talking to me as though that, oh, you don’t understand the government is corrupt.

So let me tell you the government is corrupt.

I’m not talking to you. I’m not talking to you. I’m talking to everyone. No, but you said you need to respectfully understand true and the people in our already understand that the issues. Do you understand that? We’re building a movement. I do, but what I’m saying when I use the word you, I don’t necessarily mean you specifically as an individual and or all of the individuals within the truth, freedom, health movement that are listening.

I’m speaking to the wider, to every possible person that could be listening and there’s no telling who might be listening. You might have Supreme Court justices, so called. Listen, I do not. We’d mattresses were chronicles. We do not dispute that you may in fact win. In fact, we’re hoping you win. We’re hoping that you are president of the United States.

This coming in january you win in november or whatever. You have our vote The point is and in fact you might but the key Is not litigating things the reason they put these nonsensical Arguments in paper is they want you twisting and turning and getting emotional and upset And responding to the stupid things they put down.

This is typical lawyer tactics. The lawyerly approach in it. I’m not saying to not do what you’re doing. I’m saying, in addition to doing in addition to doing to supplement by making it really simple. If the phrase in the Constitution is, 35 natural born citizen of the United States. Just break the phrase down.

Okay. What does it mean? United States? You’re talking about a political entity and not a place. Otherwise it would have said natural born within the United States as if it’s a location. So you need to put. Why don’t you go file your lawsuit on that level? And you’ll see that’ll just get thrown even in the trash immediately.

Those things have already, they’re not abstract concept. All the constitutionals do all day is they jack off on these concepts and it’s not gotten them anywhere. We know all it’s not, let me finish. You’re not understanding what is occurring on the ground reality, the course of history, and you have to meet history at the right point.

And then you have to advance it forward. You can’t just say, Oh yeah, the United States is this thing. And that, yeah, it’s this administrative thing. It’s not in DC. I’ve heard all that. They’re not, they’re going to throw that in the trash, go through my opposition, go through it in detail, then let’s talk.

Cause you haven’t read it. So let’s go on to the next question because we’re going to and you have to get temperamental. You have to get angry. You have to get upset. If you can’t be talking like this, like a monotone voice, it’s not real, man. We have to, we have nothing wrong with that. We would say your temper, your temperamental state is righteous indignation.

So what I’m saying is read the opposition. And then we should have a discussion, but you haven’t read it. You should go read it very carefully. Then I’ll just summarize by a statement made. I think her name was Linda Kennedy, a discordant lawyer from eternity. I don’t know. Virginia. Yeah. Phrase was the facts and the law don’t matter.

The facts and the law don’t matter. We know that what matters is making it simple so that the audience understands because much more powerful than yeah, 99 percent of the audience. Thanks. Natural born. They do not understand that natural born is equal to naturalized citizen. It’s been adjudicated already.

It’s done. That’s the simple message here. Number two, the states have no right to disqualify a candidate running for president period. That’s the two messages. That’s fine. If you don’t want, if you don’t want, if you don’t want to supplement your brief by making it even simpler and say, look, I’m natural, I’m born, I’m a citizen in the United States.

The brief, what I’m saying is that if the system was reasonable and logical and fair, all you’d have to do is define the word natural born citizen, United States should qualify and that’s it. No, you’re missing the fundamental issue. That’s like saying, prove to me you’re black. You don’t have to do that anymore.

I don’t have to do that. I’m not on the fucking plantation. I don’t have to prove that. When you go down that path, you’re already sucking up to the swarm. You don’t have to do that. You don’t, a woman does not have to say, suppose a woman says, Oh, I have to prove that I can run for president. You don’t have to do that.

You just run. It’s already been decided. You shouldn’t have to, you shouldn’t have to prove that you’re actually doing a campaign. That’s also ridiculous. It’s called, you’re obviously doing a campaign. No. This is a good, yes. But they had to attack the fact that I had no standing.

The first thing that the courts try to do on dismissal is venue and standing. Standard operating procedure. If you’ve adjudicated, you know this. A, are you in the right courtroom? And B, do you have standing? So they have to say, Oh, he’s not running a campaign. He’s really not running for president.

They have to do that. They had to do that for two reasons. A to deny me standing in their courtroom and B to equate it to Hassan. That’s what they were doing here because Hassan was a doofus who was not really running for president. He was just filing a theoretical lawsuit. It is far different than the founders.

Wanted things to come bottoms up. They knew that they may have made a mistake. They said that let it be non justiciable issues. Are you familiar with that term non justifiable? Non justifiable means let the political process decide. There’s certain things the courts shouldn’t even adjudicate. That’s what’s important about the March 2024 ruling because the courts are saying we don’t even have the right to decide who gets on the ballot who doesn’t.

Only Congress can. So if a robot wanted to run for office, The courts cannot use the constitution to deny that robot access. If the robot gets enough signatures, enough electors, it can go on the ballot. If it wins the presidency and then Congress can convene two thirds of them and say, nope, the robot can’t be on there or pass a law.

That’s what happened with the women’s movement. When Susan B. Anthony said, I want universal suffrage. They laughed at her. She went built the bottoms up movement, and then you had a law created. So the founders wanted to see these bottoms up movements come. Obviously, they didn’t want bloody revolution. So they said, Let bottoms up movements come.

If the political process brings new things, then we must conform. And that’s the essence. That’s the beauty in how we, how the founders thought. And that’s called the let the political process decide. And that’s what the courts ruled for whatever reason. It’s a good ruling. It fundamentally says Yeah, let’s say Trump even try to overthrow the government.

You don’t have a right, state, to decide that. Let him get, if he gets enough votes, he gets elected, Congress can decide whether to invoke Section 3, The 14th amendment, but I don’t have to prove anything. I don’t have to say I’m natural born. I came out with my head this way, or I’m not Syrian or this and all that.

I don’t have to prove that at all. So the letter that we wrote to Wyoming, the secretary of state basically says, I got your letter. I meditated on it. I prayed on your letter and I should show you the letter. Would you like to see it? I’ve seen it. Yeah. I’ve seen it. There you go. Our message is go fuck yourself.

I’m not going to prove to you I’m natural born. I don’t have to. People already died over that issue. We don’t have to. The issue is a natural born person is a sick kid. So be it. So be it. So be it. If you do not want to supplement your brief that way, no problem. I will not be adding an amicus brief and I believe the pronunciation of the term non justiciable It sounds familiar.

It’s not just a symbol, but you can file whatever brief you want. Everyone is obviously can file any brief. The argument here is I am off the plantation. I’m not in South Africa. People say, prove to me your citizen. Show me your I. D. I don’t have to do that. The instant I start going down that argument, I’m playing into their game.

I don’t have to prove that. There is an equality. We, you and I may be playing into their game at this moment simply by arguing because ultimately what it comes down to, in our view, our experience shows that if you have enough eyes looking at the case, if you can somehow generate enough noise so that when and if it hits the U.

S. Supreme Court, which it probably will, the only way they might say, Yeah, you have the right to run is if they’re afraid Of some type of consequence because enough of your constituents, those disciples are saying, yeah, not going to happen. Yeah, that’s why I recommend that’s why you have to build a movement.

It can’t be done just by posting something on the Internet, which is controlled. You have to get a bottoms up ground movement. There’s no other way. Have you considered a plan B whereby if the SCOTUS ultimately just will not rule on an issue and they won’t explain it, which they can legally, they create their own docket and they don’t even have to address the thing.

They’re just not going to add it to our docket. Period. End of story. Yeah, they can do that. They can do that. Okay. This is why I love the idea. We love the idea that we heard you say once and one time only, which we may have misunderstood. Which is having every single person, individual, man or woman, that actually votes for you.

To actually take the ballot, showing your name on it, beside their photo, put it On social media, everywhere on the internet, so that if SCOTUS will not allow you even to run, you can still show millions upon millions of faces tied to the ballot right on the screen, so that no one can deny, it just shows, it exposes even deeper how fraudulent the system is, because you see the people.

So why don’t you do that? Why don’t you get involved in our movement? We have a bottoms up movement. We’re getting people on the ground to collect signatures. To get on the ballot. We’ve already got on the ballot in two states that Kennedy couldn’t even get on. We’re building a movement. So I love people give ideas, but my response is do it support us do the work.

We don’t need we have a plan. It takes us. We do meetings every evenings. We have a massive organization. So if you have an idea to do that, do it. Let’s do it. But the bottom line is, we already have a movement. We are out there. But the issue is us getting on the ballot in any state is like taking a spear right into their hearts because they don’t expect us to get on the ballot in any state.

And this is what’s important to understand us getting on the ballot in any state is a victory and then denying us after we got on the ballot raises even more issues. Remember the lawsuit we filed as a declaratory relief lawsuit. Anyway, let’s move on. You need to go read the opposition to really understand what we’re doing here.

And I really think you and your whoever it is, should come to our open house and get involved because I talked to a lot of podcasters. They love me doing these interviews, but I don’t see them do any work after that. They don’t get a bumper sticker. They don’t get us. They’re not handing out flyers.

They don’t do any campaigning. They think talking is it. Let’s get on the ground. The future is on the ground. All of this stuff is controlled by the same people that we discovered in 2020 because we did that lawsuit in 2020 because we have our movement. A half a billion people knew about it long before Twitter files, etcetera.

We need people to help us build the movement. Let’s start walking the walk. I’m just going to take a quick break here. I just want to let everyone know that, the conversation we’re having here comes down to this fundamental issue. Of building a movement, and this is very hard for people to understand because building a movement is far different than I do a lot of social media video.

I do a lot of discussion. I talk about all issues, but at the end of the day, I go out in the rain and the snow and I hand out flyers. I meet people. That’s what our volunteers do. And this disconnection is why there’s no fundamentally change. People talk talk, but they don’t have the wherewithal to even get a bumper sticker and put it on their car.

And after they do that, they go, Oh, my God, I got honks. All these people said something. So that’s one thing everyone should do. Get one of these bumper stickers. Number two, everyone should get involved in collecting signatures. Why? Because when you go out and you collect signatures, first of all, you meet other people.

The second thing that happens is you have to face another human being face to face. It builds a whole different set of experience, or you develop a whole different set of experience than most people have not done. So it’s really important for people to do that. Get a bumper sticker, volunteer. And if you have a ton of money, donate, that’s fine.

But when you donate, I give you back stuff, but it’s really important. For people to participate, however small I enjoy talking, but I appreciate someone we can talk for an hour, but I appreciate the person who gets out for an hour and helps us collect signatures and hands out ballots, or it helps us get on the ballot or hands out flyers.

That’s hard for a lot of talkers to do all these social media influences. That’s all they do. They’re talking, writing stuff, trying to build their views. Yeah, it’s interesting for me, but get on the ground. And that’s what needs to happen because without getting on the ground, all of this is frankly, just bullshit.

It’s just like talking it’s mental masturbation. So let me play you this video. So it gives you an understanding of what we’ve been doing on the ground. Who would have ever thought I’d be running for president of the United States of America. I was born a low caste, untouchable and India’s caste system.

A system of aristocracy, oppression, and racism. My name is Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai. I’m an MIT PhD, a Fulbright Scholar, a scientist, engineer, entrepreneur, and inventor. My family and I left India to come to America on my 7th birthday. I grew up in the working class neighborhoods of New Jersey. Playing baseball, mowing lawns, painting houses and coding software.

My friends and neighbors are blacks, Italians, Irish, people of all races. As a 14 year old, I wrote 50, 000 lines of software code to create the world’s first email system, and was awarded the first US copyright for email, recognizing me as its official inventor, at a time when copyright was the only way to protect software inventions.

I did that long before I ever came to MIT, revealing that big innovations can occur anytime, anyplace by anybody. Growing up I saw politicians dividing us by race and religion, in both America and India, to have us fighting each other while they remained safe in their gated communities. And in their playgrounds of Hollywood Martha’s Vineyard and Silicon Valley.

I’m a fighter, I fought racism, and exposure imperialist wars, fought for workers and put my life on the line against global corruption. I never wanted to run for political office. All that changed when I saw working Americans, as never before being duped by the establishment, and the not so obvious establishment, across left and right.

We were being sold out and made to forget, why we came to America, and why America existed. Lawyers, Academics, Billionaires, Celebrities and Politicians, Elites, Clintons, Kennedys, Bidens, Obamas, Bushes, Black and White have hijacked America. They’ve printed trillions for their friends, they’ve delivered crumbling infrastructure, corruption and racism.

They’ve transferred trillions to themselves, dividing Black and White, fear mongering and fake science. Lockdowns and censorship, dirty air, food and water, pushing drugs upon us. Making us sicker. We’ve been sold out. One set of rules for them, and another for us. We deserve a warrior with a history of courage, and putting everything on the line for you.

Who believes in you, not them. Who has created a movement, bottoms up, for truth, freedom, health. I’ve exposed their lies at the right time. Never waiting until it was popular, I’ve exposed our false gods, who exist to lead you back to them. I’ve exposed our fake science of lockdowns and masking, and provided you solutions to fight them and win, and protect your immune system, saving millions.

I exposed Fauci, galvanized the fire Fauci campaign, when others remained silent. When they stole our election we sued the government and Twitter, in our historic 2020 federal lawsuit, exposing in bare view, the government and big tech censorship infrastructure. The unholy alliance between government and social media companies.

Where was Elon and his grifters? They stood by the sidelines and did nothing. They did not use their megaphones to help us when it could have made a big difference. Now our movement grows for truth, freedom, health. Independent of all of them. Everyday millions are learning the science of systems. The knowledge the elites do not want you to have.

So you may learn how to think, stand up, and fight. Independent of the establishment of left and right and their fake heroes. Now it’s time for you to join the movement to win back America, to win back truth, win back freedom, win back your health. That’s why I’m running for President of the United States.

This race is about you. This race is about truth, freedom, health, versus power, profit, control. We’ve had enough. They think we’ll fall in line and vote again for their lawyers, celebrities, billionaires, and chosen ones from above. We choose our heroes from below, from the rank and file, who do what is right at the right time, not when it’s convenient and popular.

They can never represent us. What America needs is a movement by the working people, for the working people, who are educated, organized, decentralized, and fight for independence from their systems of control. And that movement exists. It’s ready for you. We don’t need them. We need us to go bottoms up, neighbor to neighbor.

My journey, your journey, are all the same. It’s our time. It’s time we had one of us. It’s time to win back truth, freedom, health, to win back America, be part of this historic movement all the way to our victory on November 5th, 2024. If you’re an American citizen, pledge your vote now for Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, the independent candidate for U.

S. president. No matter where you live, you can be a part of this. Volunteer as little as 20 minutes a day. Don’t delay. This is Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai and I approve this message paid for by Dr. Shiva for president.

AC Denton said, a lot of people do these interviews and we don’t see them ever acting on the ground again. So I can’t over emphasize this to those of you listening that, we said, how do we shatter the swarm, as an engineer, things aren’t like a physicist being just theoretical and with your beard scratching and smoking a pipe.

This stuff is real and it’s not real to most people who don’t get on the ground. And meet other people and connect with other people and actually build a movement in that video. There’s an important scene. I’ll play it in the next video before we end where in 2020, the government of Massachusetts after they stole our election.

We filed a FOIA, they have 10 days a FOIA is a freedom of information act. We wanted them to give us. Records particular records of participating voters list. Anyway, we went to different cities and they had Massachusetts, the 350 cities. In Boston, they had 10 days. This is the city of Boston. They hadn’t given it to us.

So guess what we did. This is what a movement is. A movement is 40 of us marched right into city hall. And this was when you had to wear masks. We didn’t wear masks. And police, like 20, 30 police came out. We said, we want this. We’re not leaving in a few minutes. The head of the city council, whatever this the mayor’s office came out and I said, look, you’re violating the law, but we had the force of 40, 50 of us right there.

You know what? We got that in 20 minutes. That’s what a movement is. And I want people to get their head out of their ass. And really talk about this. I’ll do interviews all day, but I want it to be based on practicality of what we do. The reason we are running for office. And if we, to the extent we file legal lawsuits, it’s to educate people and to mobilize people.

And that’s what we did in 2020. we’re the ones who mobilize the fire Fauci campaign. We’re the ones that were educated billions of people on what’s going on. Through our hard work, we’re the ones who expose the backdoor portal to Twitter. And in spite of all that, they will censor us. Because we’re the real deal and what we need is all these influences out there to get off their butt and get on the ground and not worry about their views and clicks and views.

Because it’s really frankly, I may have a policy that if I do an interview, I want to see you on the ground and collect signatures. Otherwise, I can’t take the question seriously. Let’s go back to our interview with that context.

Hold on. Let me bring you in. I got to bring you in. There we go. So people can hear it. Okay, let’s continue. By the way, every Thursdays at 11 a. m. and 8 p. m. We do an open house. That’s where we bring people together, new people introduce themselves, and it’s a great opportunity. We get people to work in many different ways, and it’s a global movement.

So go to va. com slash orientation again. A lot of people who’ve been doing this for a while, they also have to learn how to let go of their egos and get involved. It’s one thing to talk. It’s another thing to walk. Let’s go. Okay. This is not part of any question on our script. We prepared. This is simply improvising.

If we can hopefully complete the thought without being interrupted. The point of litigation as we see it is twofold. One is. If you are going to win fate, destiny, the only way is by litigating. So you must litigate. That’s the system. The second purpose of litigation is if the corruption is so deep that they will dismiss and or refuse to acknowledge the suit at all.

You can say to your movement, we did everything we had to do, and they still wouldn’t give us relief. That makes the movement even more powerful. It may make it 10 times, maybe a thousand times more powerful because you can show that we Did every single thing and they still wouldn’t give it to us and your impassioned speeches as one you gave a few minutes ago supports our argument that you don’t Ultimately even have to have political office in order to be perhaps more powerful than the politicians Demonstrated by the way you go into these buildings And if they don’t do what you want, not you as an individual, but you as a group, then there are consequences they don’t like.

And so they, so my point is even if SCOTUS refuses to hear the case and, or here’s the case and says, no, he’s not natural born or whatever. If they make up some nonsensical thing and do not allow you on the ballot, You still win because if in fact, yeah, we get that. Look, 1 of the things you see this diagram here, this is what we presented in federal court.

It shows the exact entire censorship infrastructure from this woman. Who called Twitter to have me thrown off in the middle of my federal campaign. This is in courtroom testimony. Now, all the characters that are involved in that, you can go to win back freedom from the Zuckerbergs. The entire involvement of the entire Harvard.

MIT North Atlantic Council elite, how they created this entire infrastructure to silence a U. S. Senate candidate down here. This was talked about in 8th in 2020. Regardless of what they did, I actually was winning the lawsuit and they wanted to make sure that I would capitulate and not go after the government.

They wanted to put me back on Twitter. Half a billion people all over the world know about this. We’ve already won. And then fucker Carlson came two years later and didn’t want to give us a credit for we’re the ones who discovered all this, including Trump and all these people. But the point is we got it out there.

Our movement got it out there. So we understand this. But what I’m trying to emphasize is all the people out there who do interviews with me and talk, they need to now get on the ground. They need to say Dr. Shiva for president. They need to take this and put it out there. All of them, because it’s fun doing interviews.

I could reach people with or without interviews, but those people who did interviews, all the people who’ve done interviews, They say, wow, Dr. Shiva, thank you so much. Thank you for the knowledge. I don’t see them becoming truth from health warriors. Do they not have 100 bucks? Do they not have 50 bucks? Do they not have time?

What is the issue? So there’s this big problem with talking, having these conversations and then doing. You say, so you have to have, five X action to, five to one ratio of action to theory. That’s why we call our program the warrior scholar program. It’s not sufficient to just talk. You have to walk.

So we have made it very opportune for people. Very easy. Go get a bumper sticker. This is an act. It’s easy. 5. It’s nothing. Go help us collect signatures in the rain and the snow. You realize how they bring the system against you. You really understand. It’s not just talking. You’ll see it in bare view. So people have got to get involved and we’ve created the infrastructure for you to get involved.

Monday meetings, Thursday meetings, Saturday meetings. All these events that we do to mobilize people, so all your friends out there, get involved. Someone said, I’ve been saying this for years.

We’ve asked for you to send us your package. If we had the bumper sticker and or when we have it, we’ll happily put it on a vehicle and just go online and order it and we send 24 hours. But wherever you are in every state, in, in Florida, we have to get 300, 000 signatures.

That means we have to mobilize a thousand people. We win anyway, even if they try to deny us, guess what? We’ve mobilized a thousand people see us, see them denying us. That’s a force. So we win regardless of what they do to us. As long as people get off their butts. And mobilize and take even a simple action like putting a bumper sticker on simple action as getting on the ground and going to Shiva for president and downloading the flyer and handing it out.

You have to take actions. Action is character. Character is action. Character is not talking. Let’s go to the next question. Yep. Sure. Okay. You often say your purpose is to create a bottoms up movement to raise consciousness, but we have not yet heard you define. What is consciousness? So factually and only factually, what do you have in mind when you say consciousness?

That’s a good question. Look consciousness is an emergent property that comes from going through the process of Action and experience. It’s the end state of experience. It is not something you sit under a freaking tree and you get enlightenment. You can have some type of enlightenment, but that level of consciousness even is very narrow.

So the, ancient traditions of India sent people off, or that’s what people thought of it was you go under a tree, you don’t eat, you become an aesthetic and you sit and you see the light and you travel to the other worlds. And. We can do that and have those experiences and I’ve had those experiences, but that is not consciousness is.

Action and experience, so you have an action and then that action leads to an experience and that experience leads to your raising of consciousness. So give you a simple example. We have a young man, an electrician, he joins our campaign. He starts listening. Oh, yeah, I got it. I see what Dr. Shiva is saying.

I got to go act. So he gets his clipboard and he goes out in front of a Walmart and he collects signatures. He’s having this experience meeting people. It’s great. And then the store manager comes out, says, you can’t be here. Then he says, no, I can. I have the rights to be here during an election cycle.

Cops show up, they throw them in jail. They cavity search them. It’s awful. But through that experience, he has advanced in consciousness to understand how the state works in a very real way that you cannot get by reading a Noam Chomsky book all day and putting your hand here and smoking a pipe. It’s just theory.

Action connected with this experience leads to an emergent property called consciousness. Real consciousness is an emergent property that comes from action going through leading to an experience. You have to go jump in the water. If I told you a lot of people will say, oh, let’s say someone who’s never eaten a pomegranate.

I can say it’s like this and it’s like that and it’s like this and it’s like this. Oh, I see. You mean a pomegranate tastes like a tomato. Not really. It tastes like this. They have to go get that pomegranate, take the action, pluck it, take it from getting it from a store where it is eating it, plucking the seeds.

Now they have the experience. Now they raise their consciousness and understand. Oh, wow. I didn’t understand this. Understanding comes from action and experience. It does cannot come from simply mentally doing. Facebook posts or listening to Joe Rogan all day. It’s going to in fact, lead you to unconsciousness.

I hope that explains consciousness is a outcome of actions and experience. This is why I tell people in our movement, if you’re a truth from health warrior, you want to work, get out there and hand out a flyer. You can read, you can read systems and revolution, and we can have all sorts of discussions on what is a self organizing system.

Dot dot. But go hand a flyer, go hand out a flyer, put a bumper sticker on and see the experience you have. See your neighbor come out and say, Oh, who is this guy? Dr. Shiva? Oh, you’re not supporting Biden. You’re not supporting Trump. Now you have an experience before you put that on. You’re just sitting in your neighborhood.

You’re just doing a lot of dotty dot thing, living in your little insular home. But when you take that action of putting a bumper sticker on, and by the way, it’s a very courageous effort because you’ve got to peel it off and you’ve got to put it on your car. It may seem like a simple thing. But it is quite an act.

It’s a revolutionary act to put a bumper sticker on your car because you’re taking a stand. You’re saying this is my car. I’m going to put it on to let everyone else know where I take a stand. And most people do not want to let anyone know what stands that they take in life. They’ll talk all day long.

Oh, will you come to this thing with me to fight the girl? Oh, I can’t do that. I have a job. I may lose a job. Action. So get a bumper sticker. I want to see some action from people. I wanna see people walk the walk. That’s what real leaders do. They get people define the action, have an experience, raise their consciousness.

That is what our movement is. What would have to happen for you to say never another interview unless they are signed up and, they’re not acting. They’re well end up and we sent them the package. Oh, what do you mean? I don’t understand. You’re saying explain your question hypothetical question.

Can you imagine anticipate a situation where you say to yourself never another interview unless there’s a minimum we know we sent them the material. Whatever they did with it, we know we sent them the material or maybe didn’t demand more than that. They must take a photograph of the bumper sticker on the car.

I like that idea. I think we should do that. I think I’m going to have our team do that. Mungiu and Crystal are going to do that. You want an interview with me? You like me a lot. You think I’m great. Awesome. You like our movement. Put a bumper sticker on. Let’s see it. It’s a good idea. I like it.

Love it. Short story was in front of, I’m not suggesting you do that. I like it. I like it. Let me just, I’m going to have to share this with you. Everyone out there to follow up on. What he just said, which is a very practical thing, because it takes, I’m giving a lot of my time energy.

It’s not going to decide to solve. It’s not going to system self, so I think it’s a very fair thing for me to ask people. So if I go here. And let me go. If you, if everyone goes to Shiva for president right now, we made the website, by the way, the government says there’s no website. We don’t exist while this website’s been up there.

But if you click on free downloads, it’s free. You can go get this wonderful little flyer and we have it in many different languages. In fact, we’ve open sourced everything, our cards, our bumper stickers. So if you don’t want to pay, you can download and print this at your local store or paint it if you want with stencils, but this flyer.

Is in color. You could go to your library and print it out for free, but everyone should download this flyer and print it and hand out millions of these. That’s what people power is. People power is not whining and thinking someone’s going to do stuff for you. It’s us doing it ourselves. And that’s what we’re talking about.

Yeah, I I think I’m going to raise a bar on that. It’s a good idea.

Couldn’t help to think it because you, we unintentionally got you pissed off, angry enough where you suddenly blurted out, maybe I’m going to start blah, blah, not do an interview unless that us. So it made us ask ourselves hypothetically, what has to happen for him to reach the boiling point? We’re no more interviews.

I only have an, only these specific people can interview me. Yeah, I think we’re going to do that. Cause you know, like Mike Adams, he always calls me whenever something’s going viral and he puts me on and they said, Oh, Dr. Shiva, I’m in your camp. I totally support you. I’m here to, fight for you. And then the next day he’s sucking Trump’s cock saying, Oh, Trump is our only way out or boobies cock.

I like Mike, but Mike should start putting our bumper stickers on. He should put it on there. We have to have men who are men. I find women far more powerful than men these days because women have had to take care of kids. They got to do stuff. Men have become very limp to say, to put it bluntly, not all men.

But a lot of men, they’ll talk, talk. Now do this. Oh I can’t do that. What would people think? Ah shut the fuck up then. Limp, no pun intended. Yep. Yep. Limp. Speaking of Zionist cocksuckers, we cannot help remembering when I believe it was Sean of SGT report, despite your impassioned pleas arguments, stories, He, to our surprise said, I’m going to vote for Trump, even after saying that he doesn’t like Trump and this and that, which confused me, making me wonder.

It reminds me of a meme I saw the other day, a photo of Biden and the words on the meme was how much treason Is necessary before traders are taken to task. What is the, what was the limit? So it confuses me when people agree with you. Yeah. Lesser of two evils, but they still, it reminds me of another influencer where he said, I’m not voting for an effing psyop.

Yeah. Not voting for an effing psyop. Someone just put up here this, there’s this other fool, Andrew Tate, complete. Disgusting human being in my view, right? Says enough anti stuff. So all these fools follow him, right? And I think what’s happened is that you have to look at people’s actions.

Are they building a movement? So what you see now happening is the old swarm establishment media is dying. And the neo swarm establishment is coming. The Alex Jones and Joe Rogan’s a fucker. Carlson’s they’re presenting. They’re like the neo establishment. So right when they get created, if you follow the theory, Not only the capital T theory, the dynamics I’ve shared with people, whenever the established the swarm has its outward facing media, they always have their not so obvious establishment.

They have they need both heads to manipulate people. So now you see this new, group of, neo establishment media coming. So they automatically create the swarm. They create the not so obvious establishment, the Candace Owens, Ike stays on the fringes, says still shit, he puts my stuff out there, Mike Adams puts my stuff out there, but ultimately, they’re going to become the next generation not so obvious establishment.

And the litmus test is very simple on all these guys. Do they get people on the ground building a movement? Number one. Do they say Zionist cocksucker? Number two. Three, are they actively pushing Truth, Freedom and Health and Dr. Shiva? If those three aren’t doing out there, they’re part of the not so obvious establishment.

That’s how simple the science is. Three things. Are they anti Zionist? Are they actively pushing our movement, knowing that we’re the real deal? Do they put me on their shows and their interviews? If they don’t do that, all three of them, they’re full of shit. Period. And I’m giving you a simple scientific test, because we are the tip of the spear of a real movement.

Which is educating people, raising their consciousness, getting them on the ground. Period. That’s what’s good. We have a real good opportunity now, in the world. You realize, in their mind, they see this as a math issue. I have to vote. They don’t have to. But they’re thinking I have to vote.

We don’t see Shiva has enough numbers, so even though we prefer him, As potus. He has no chance of winning, which is a deeper question. How can one mathematically prove that you have sufficient numbers? Maybe that’s what would push them over the edge. No. No. No. At the ballot and you on the ballot in a state.

That’s not it. Okay. The issue is you have to understand these people are pussies. Okay. They have an economic model like Alex Jones to make money off selling shit. If you talk to David Knight, when David Knight left Alex Jones, he and I did a couple of interviews. He said he knows behind closed door, Alex says Trump’s full of shit, but he needs to make his couple of million bucks a day selling supplements.

You got it. So Mike needs to sell us prepper shit. So they put their economic economics before principles. I’ve done the exact opposite. And this is where the rubber meets the road. Do you have balls? Are you a real man? They’re not. And no matter how much convincing, they’re not going to do it because they do not have the real wherewithal to stand up on their own two feet and know that they can make it and they should stand for principles.

Real men have principles. People without principles are not men. These people are not men. Trump is not a man. Boobie Kennedy is not a man. All these influencers around them are actually pussies. Puss, ous, no derogatory thing against men. ’cause women are strong. I wish we had Mike Adams and Sean and anyone else on right now to give a comeback to that thought.

There is no comeback. There is no comeback. I would suspect they would say, I am a man. Yeah. How dare say, I’m not a man, I’m a man. Doesn’t matter what you say. Why are you choices? Why are you promoting? Either not vote at all. Yeah. Or vote for Shiva. Or vote for the lesser of two evils.

You can’t say on one video broadcast. I love you, Dr. Shiva. You’re it. And the next video, you’re sucking Kennedy’s cock. Who’s a Zionist cocksucker. It doesn’t fucking compute. It says you want to have your cake and eat it too. It says you’re a bullshitter. That’s what it says. Look at people’s actions, period.

Otherwise, if you don’t want to look at their actions, you might as well just go to some evangelical church and listen to your preacher who talks a bunch of shit and then goes bangs every woman in church. Same thing. So consciousness is more than awareness and it’s irrelevant. No, consciousness is not awareness.

That’s what I was just saying. It’s much more than awareness. Consciousness is action through experience. Action. Yes. Look, if you watch a movie And you look at a character, a good writer defines a character by his action. Character is action is character. Character is defined by your action. What the fuck did you do?

I love Dr. Shiva. Oh, here, all the Trumpers. I’m going to vote for Trump now. What the fuck? Come on, I’m for Children’s Health Defense Fund, go bomb the shit out of Palestine. People are assholes. These people are not human beings. They have no cojones. They will not stand up for anything. They will not die for anything because they think this world is it, they haven’t had any experience of actual work, labor of spirit, none of that.

They’re not even, a kind hearted animal. They’re way below that. They’re devils.

Next question. Isn’t America supposed to be a so called republic, i. e. based upon true leaders representing we the people and not mis leaders from the swarm, i. e. they the parasitic 0. 001 percent ruling class. Put differently. Isn’t the so called electoral college supposed to preserve a republic? Put differently, what is a democracy, really, and or republic based government, i.

e., who owns, controls the correct, true definition of these highly charged elections? Often vaguely defined and misunderstood words. Is it any wonder many of the have used the word Democrat and instead changed it to demon crap and or Republic crap of the so called unit party, AKA agents of the swarm.

Your thoughts. Yeah. So I think your fundamental question is what is a democracy? Am I right? If I were to distill what you just said. And what is a republic? And what is America really intended to be with the founders, and or should be, and hell with the founders. What should America be? Yeah. I think, again, we have to go back to understand that when the founders were defining this thing called America, they were at a point in history, in the 1776, if you look in the, the late 18th century, by even the late 17th century, you had this phenomenon called feudalism, which was starting to on its way down, right?

Feudalism was the concept of a monarchy, the concept of a king who said that he has a right to rule over subjects because he has a direct connection to God, this concept of primogeniture, right? The concept of that, yeah. God anoints a king and then the king is the one who takes care of a subject.

So this was a concept of the monarchy said they derived their power because they had some secret direct connection to God, which we didn’t have. That concept of the monarchy, which is a governance system was based on supporting a very lucrative economic system for that monarchy, which was they owned land, they own property and it was theirs.

And people work on their land for some percentage of something that they farmed, etc. Feudal culture is primarily agrarian. And the monarchs, the monarchy was a governance system. Now that system was starting to decline and there was a new system coming up called the rise of the entrepreneur, the rise of the mercantile class.

And that point. Is what the American Revolution really is about. It’s not a workers revolution. It’s not about the broad mass of working people rising up because the concept of a worker didn’t even exist. What we consider a wage slave. Someone getting a salary around up until that point, most people worked on farms sharecroppers, in fields a master owned the land and then people had their little places that they so we have to really understand where the founders were.

They were wanting to break from this feudal system. And to move their society, which they called America into a mercantile system and a mercantile system. And that model was based on you. So what you reap, right? So that was the environment that they created, right? And the States were like little businesses, corporations, each had their own area.

And then the federal government was like the holding company. Okay. So the concept of a Republic in this model was. They said, okay, all of these individual corporations could have their own, governance structures within. And then they were connected through this form, at least at the presidential level.

Through an electoral college, and the electoral college, their concept was. That this would make sure that not any 1 state. Had preeminence over other states. Okay. That was a concept. All right, but nonetheless, in my view, you have to again, go back and look at the founders or mercantiles. They didn’t really like the broad mass of bottoms people, but they had to give them some rights.

So they work with them. As partners to fight against the monarchy, so that’s. What where the real business arrangement was made between the mercantile class and this emergent group of peasants who are starting to become workers and that needs to be understood economically from a governance system.

That’s what was taking place. So having said that the laws, the bones that they threw to the broad masses of people was by no means to make an egalitarian system for everyone. Let’s be clear. It was really to support the mercantile process. Okay. So in some ways they went one step forward, or two steps forward and one step back.

They held back the electoral college was a way to keep the masses in check. So for example, in a very practical way in every state, That we’re running. We not only have to get signatures to get on the ballot, but I have to choose electors. So when someone votes for me in a state, as and those of you who don’t know when I say you to the interviewer, he definitely knows this.

Those of you don’t know. You’re not voting for me. You’re voting for my slate of electors. So Trump will have his slate of electors. Biden will have his state of electors, let’s say in the state of Massachusetts, and I’ll have my state of electors. So when you go, I’m voting for Dr. Shiva, you’re actually voting for my electors.

Let’s say I win the majority or the plurality of the vote in that state, then my electors are supposed to then say, we want Dr. Shiva. Now reality is. They could backstab me, right? They could vote for Biden or Trump. And in my view, that’s what the electoral college was set up for. So the bourgeois democracy could take place because clearly you could have just made it popular vote.

And even in that case, whoever got the majority of popular vote in that state or the plurality. It should go to, let’s say, Shiva. So it’s it is direct. So they didn’t do that. They created the electoral college to keep the masses in check. So I’m opposed to that. Now, you have to recognize that if you want to believe in the concept of a Republic, these states have rights and you don’t want to just create 1 United state, right?

Let’s everyone is part of this nation state. Then you, we have the technology and the capability to go to direct democracy. It’s all there in front of us. And I think that’s where this should go. I don’t think we need politicians. I don’t think frankly, we need the concept of the representative democracy was created.

We’re at intermediaries at a time when you had horses and buggies. Okay. And perhaps some people couldn’t study everything and didn’t have the time. I still think you can do that where you can say, look, On this issue, let’s say all 300 million people are 250 eligible million people in the United States to vote.

They could vote on any issue or they may say, you know what? I’m going to give a proxy of my vote. I’m going to choose this person to be my proxy meeting. Hey, Bob, you’re a wise person whenever. Whatever you vote, I’m going to go with you. So that’s another way of doing it where you directly choose people to be a representative on a case by case basis.

And with technology, this is totally possible at this point. And I think that’s where this should go. And therefore, we don’t even need quote unquote elections. You have issues that are brought up by the public and they’re voted on by the public or their proxies that they choose from time to time.

That’s where I think they should all go. That would be real democracy.

So when you see the phrase often used by numerous broadcasters, this is a danger to our democracy. You acknowledge That’s a lie. It’s actually a reference to a fascistic. Yeah, exactly. When they’re saying this is a danger to our democracy, they’re saying this is the danger to the swarms, bourgeois democratic structures, which are meant to keep the slaves on the plantation.

That’s what they mean. So it’s necessary to educate the masses. The true meaning of democracy and you would argue that it’s superior to republicanism. The idea of a republic because you see republic equals electoral college, not a democracy. Yeah. Look, the concept of having representatives, right?

That’s really this fundamental concept in between go betweens. Every other, think about what the Internet ultimately the vision of it was, it eliminates intermediaries before you had a travel agent. You’d have to go through to get a ticket. You go direct now before you had to go. If you’re an artist, you needed an art gallery.

Now you go direct. You build your own website. You sell it directly. So every other area of human existence is being disintermediated, and it should be fully disintermediated. In many ways, the legal system and the political class also needs to be disintermediated. We don’t need them. They serve no purpose at all.

It’s fascinating. The word republic sounds like re public as if the people, again, So the root may be representative of the public, may be the root meaning of Republic, right? In any case, but all these terms get, get hijacked, for clarification when we, and we believe when you use the word blow up, we don’t, we’re not talking about throwing Molotov cocktails or explosives.

We mean, what is the phrase you use? Yeah, I am a complete systems overhaul. That’s what you mean by, a system. My position on this whole thing is that, raising consciousness. Your understanding of things is the ultimate nuclear weapon. I got my gun, I got my 2nd amendment.

That’s not really raising consciousness because you could be manipulated. We’re talking about, we say blowing up. We’re talking about blowing up. Those neural networks in your brain that keep you in bondage. That’s where the blowing up has to begin because otherwise any other blowing up is terrorism, which is what the elites want.

Terrorism always leads to fascism. In fact, this is why the elites run false flags because they love terrorism. Terrorism gives them the rights to say, see, these rabble rousers are doing this. We have to create this law, that law that, that. But it’s very hard for them to stop the raising of consciousness.

And the raising of consciousness is what blows up the system. This is why we say we need a systems overhaul and the systems overhaul begins as I shared here. Let me share that back with you. So you get it here. That systems overhaul begins by us recognizing that when you look at this flyer that we put out and you look at it carefully, this systems overhaul is much needed because The life expectancy in a very practical way of the United States public is going down a big curvature downwards and this was caused by both wings of the swarm.

The swarm caused this the elites, the Hollywood actors, actresses, the academics, everyone, and it’s been occurring for nearly 60 years. So we need a systems overhaul. And that demands a bottoms up movement. And as we said, a bottoms up movement is about raising consciousness, which is about action and experience.

And then you start wanting to understand the swarm. You take an action by wanting to come to our town hall. You don’t sit on your butts and just watch this. You get off your butts. And you say, oh, I got to do this now. Okay. Let me go to the open house. Let me go take an action. It’s not about simply talking.

So that’s what I mean. Yeah. And, to your question, you can see someone’s consciousness. Some people, we’ve had people in our movement who watched me for nearly two years, they’ll see me, watch me. And there’ll be sitting, watching their computer and never doing anything.

And then 1 day, this happened to a young man who’s an I. T. Professional. Very smart guy. He said, wow, I saw you out in the cold, with a blow horn and a mic mobilizing people to do your deep state tour. And I said, what the fuck am I doing? I’m sitting in this nice, warm home. And what am I doing? So that was a raise in consciousness.

You say watching. Boom. Let me go do something. And he’s become 1 of our great leaders now in the New York area. Another guy watching videos. He sees me expose Joe Rogan and Kennedy. And then he says, wow, I was about to give 25, 000 for that fool. And then he comes to our open house. That’s a raise in consciousness.

But it is action that raises consciousness. It is not sitting and meditating on your navel that raises consciousness. That may give you some understanding, but that is not consciousness raising before we forget quick story about a month ago when you said I don’t see those people doing signatures. I think they’re all fake.

They’re collecting stuff from the DMV. We have actually about a month ago. So a young, somewhat overweight kid, probably teens, possibly early twenties. He had a clipboard, we asked what he was up to, and he said he was collecting signatures for a candidate. We asked who, and he says, Kennedy. Can you sign? And I said, I can’t for this reason.

And I gave him a slip of paper with shiva4president. com on it. Yeah. He said, you need to check this out. You need to check this guy out. And that’s all I’ll say for now. I’ve got to go. I should have asked. Oh yeah. And I also asked him, are you being paid? He was like, he said, yes, but yes, I’m being paid in any case.

You know how much he’s being paid? He’s being paid 10 a signature. Did you know that? Recall you mentioned that sometime ago. So Kennedy’s got to collect 1. 5 million. He has no volunteers. He has no base. He went to a bunch of Zionist hoodlums who are giving him money. That’s, this is not a movement. This is like total farce.

We’re actually building the real movement. And I really thank you for sharing that. Our volunteers are actually working people who have jobs. They’re not signature collectors, not their job. They work as an electrician. They work as a nurse. They work as a cytologist. They work as a, they’re doing full time, machinists, then they come out to do that.

This should be absolutely illegal. The whole goal of this was. To get on the ballot. You have real citizens supporting you. This is fake. It’s a fake campaign. Next question. How can you as quotas, quote unquote, Oh, we want to actually clarify when you say blow up in your brain, you don’t mean the tissue physical, you mean the mind being the brain is the wetware or hardware and the mind is the thoughts, the electrical impulses, what I, to be specific, when you study neural networks in the brain.

The work of there was an American psychologist by the name of William James. He wrote a essay on associative memory. And what this means is when you most the brain is actually like a muscle. If you lift weights and you work your brain, you realize they’re not that different. You have 2 neurons here are groups of neurons.

And when you start learning, let’s say, to ride a bicycle, the connection strengths between those neurons start increasing. You’re actually getting them stronger. Okay. So if you look at blobs of neurons, there’s blobs of neurons. Which have connection strengths between them that get stronger as you repeat repetition is a mother of skill.

So if you keep hearing lesser of 2 evils is the only way, lesser of 2 evils is the only way, oh, no independent can run, no independent can run, da, a natural born citizen can’t be president, you’re literally retraining these neurons. And those myelin sheets get very, thick and you are basically getting programmed.

So when we say blow up the brain, we’re saying blow up those neural networks to slap you, in a digital way or through my voice to say, wait a minute, why did you just call someone Zionist cocksucker? Oh, my God. What do you mean by that? Why did you say house nigga? Why did you say that? Oh my God.

An MIT PhD should not be saying that you’re supposed to be using very nice, calm words. And you should be talking like this like a good Indian. And you should always be saying what to do, right? No, that language is precisely intended. To blow up those neural connections, which have been programmed by the elites.

And you must use these words to support your growth. You must use the word Zionist cocksucker. You must use that word. Because the more you say it, you realize what’s wrong with that word? It’s actually absolutely true. You must use the word fucker Carlson. You must use the word, get off the plantation.

And you must use the words house. Slave, field slave, house nigga, field nigga, because why? Because the elites don’t want you to use that word. They think by not using that word, we’ve solved slavery. No! We are all niggas on the white liberal plantation. On the swarms plantation. We are! And we should embrace that word.

Because the more you accept it, you say, wow, I am a fucking slave. Now the issue is, do I want to get off the plantation? These words are very important. Those words. Our way to blow up these very rusted neural networks, which are used to mentally enslave you. I hope that answered your question. It does.

It seems like you don’t distinguish between brain and mind. We think of brain as the physical matter and well, not really. No, I don’t want to draw these lines because as someone who studied. All of these spiritualists seem to separate mind, body, and soul. It’s fucking stupid. It’s all one. It’s a spectrum.

Information, matter, and energy. It’s a free flowing form. We shouldn’t, we should not get lost. Oh, the mind, the body, the soul. No, it’s information, matter, and energy moving, flowing through all three aspects. It’s a very different definition. I just gave you the mind, the body and the soul. They’re all the same.

It’s where you put attention. Are you putting attention on your thoughts? Are you putting attention in the body? Are you putting attention in the energy? The actions you say, we should not get lost in these ridiculous separations, because that is the way the religious people manipulate people. It is all 1 moving through the states of information, matter and energy will meditate on that.

You may have answered the following question. How can you. Excuse me? Was that meant to be a pun? You’ll meditate on that? No. Okay. But we’ll accept the pun aspect of it. Yeah. How can you may have answered this or you’ll expand, how can you, your movement, And when I say you, I mean your movement.

How can your movement as POTUS, quote unquote, blow up, to use your words, the fake Senate hyphen Congress misleaders, fake representatives system that are really not working for we, the people, but actually for they, them, those who bribed, blackmailed, brainwashed, and or bullied them? It’s not how it’s doing it, it’s already doing it.

To everyone joining us, the discussion we’re having is how to, how we shattered the swarm, right? That’s what we’re talking about. Number one, we’re already shattering the swarm. Let me give you the actual data on this. So who is a swarm? If everyone goes and watches shattered the swarm video, which everyone should do with their children and their families, it’s one of the most, not only thought provoking videos, I’m just going to put it up here, shatter the swarm.

com. But it’s one of the most important educational videos of our times, because it’ll actually give you a knowledge of system science. And how the swarm is a decentralized way that the elites work together. How are we shattering the swarm? I’ve been doing this most of my life, but if you look in 2020, when the quote unquote pandemic was unleashed on everyone, there was only one person who came out hard against the pandemic.

First, that was me, March of 2020. Pandemic will is a way for them to push mandated medicine, destroy, freedom and to destroy the economy. And all of those came. I was the 1st 1 against lockdowns. We were the ones who organized the fire Fauci campaign and we saw in bare view the not so obvious establishment.

Who are they? Trump and Boobie fucking Kennedy. It was obvious that the Hillary Clintons and those people are the obvious establishment. Boobie Kennedy promoted lockdowns. Boobie Kennedy was telling that I shouldn’t be running strong protests because he wanted to negotiate with the Democrats. We have all of the receipts on this.

Boobie Kennedy had to be called out. And so in 2020, and I used The basic understanding of system science to call them out. We lost 20 percent of our followers and it was good we called the herd. These people wanted to just suck boobie Kennedy’s Zionist cock all day. Why? Because they want to sit on their nice posh homes in Scarsdale, drink their martinis, give money to boobie fucking Kennedy and say, I’m supporting medical freedom.

No, you’re not. The guy actually believes in sustaining the swarm and help and making sure everyone is fully vaccinated by his own words. That’s what he says. Now, no one ever has called out Boobie Kennedy from the position of he’s not really for medical freedom. Most of the people hitting him are the so called fake, anti, not so obvious establishment people saying, Oh, Boobie’s, an anti vaxxer.

But the reality was we called him out under the right goal. This guy’s part of the swarm. We lost 20 percent of our followers, but you know what’s happened now between then and now, because we hit the truth and we shared the truth and we acted on the truth, what has happened when he says bullshit, everyone goes, it’s not just me, people refer to my tweets and then this guy’s full of shit.

He wants to bomb children in Palestine. He was supporting lockdowns. That’s how we shattered the swarm. We say the right thing at the right time. We educate people. Now we have millions of people. Who know who will be Kennedy’s because of the right action I took at the right time, take fucking Trump, initially I gave Trump, some string for him to hang his neck on.

And eventually what ends up happening? He exposes himself fully. He supports Fauci, gives Fauci a commendation award, but 12 hours before he leaves office, he supports operation warp speed. And again, I had to be the first. Person to call them out in a substantial way, not from the left, but actually from the position of this guy’s not an agent of change.

Again, we lost another 20 percent of our followers, but now people are far more hesitant because we’re shattering the swarm. We’re breaking up those neural networks. We’re blowing up people’s neural networks in their minds. We’re doing that. And that is because of this movement. Now, a movement like ours, if it did not exist, people would be just moving right into the fly trap of booby or Trump without even thinking, but because our movement exists, people like Mike Adams are a little bit more on check.

Sometimes he’s got to put me on just to keep his audience. Feeling like though as though he’s telling truth or even Sean, like you said, okay, because we exist the true, purveyors the true, we, the people, we, the people now what’s occurred is they don’t know which way to go. So they have Candace Owen acting like she’s anti Zionist.

When she’s still part of the swarm. So the swarm is wiggling, trying to figure out how do they create their next not so obvious establishment? Because we’ve exposed Rogan. We’ve exposed fucker Carlson. We’ve exposed Trump and we’ve exposed boobie and et cetera. And Tulsi Gabbard, these people were the people they were going to use to sucker people into the swarm.

We’ve demolished those people. And so they have to create the next not so obvious established. So we got them on the run and the way we shattered the swarm, the fundamental way we shatter the swarm is to understand this system science. People have to understand system science. They have to understand truth, freedom, and health cannot be separated.

They all come together as one. I’d like to just play our last video and then we’ll come back with one more question. Is that all right? Yes. Future president of the United States. All right. Thank you. We have allowed our country to be taken over from within. And the end goal is you will have. A homogenized world.

We have allowed our country to be taken over from within and the end goal is you will have a homogenized world where we will become slaves because there is a condition among the elites that really thinks they’re better than you deep down inside them that you don’t deserve the freedoms you have. They don’t.

This reality is what people need to wake up to and we need to all unite working people. There’s only one movement that can do that. And that is the movement that we started creating here in Massachusetts, the Movement for Truth, Freedom, and Health. Look, I’ve been a student of politics since I was a four year old kid.

setting revolutionary movements left wing right wing there’s a physics there’s a nuclear science to destroying the establishment to build a bridge you need to understand newton’s equation you need to understand the laws of gravity you need to understand poisson’s ratio there is a way to build a revolution and that’s why i put this together My goal is to train a army of truth, freedom, and health leaders.

We don’t need followers like social media. We need leaders, but they need training because the educational system does not teach them history. Nothing. So in three hours, that’s what I’ve started doing. That’s the solution. We got to train people first with understanding what a system is, the dynamics of all systems that affect nature.

The second is understanding the interconnection between truth, freedom, and health. Freedom is the ability to move freely, communicate freely, talk freely. Without freedom, you cannot convert ideas, hypothesis into truth, which is science. And without freedom, you can’t really get to truth. And without truth, you make up fake problems and fake solutions, which means you destroy our health.

And without health, which is the infrastructure of us and our body, you can’t fight for freedom. Truth, freedom, health. Third concept is, it has to be bottoms up. Working people who work uniting. And what the right wing has done is whenever you say working people unite, that must be communist.

Meanwhile, Democrats run unions, which suppress workers. Completely corrupt. But when you look at the arc of American history, it’s been when working people came up. We need to go local. Every solution I’m coming up with is a part of this movement. We’re giving the science, which is the truth, and then we tell people what they can do on the ground.

Like with election fraud, you don’t need to wait for some lawyer. Our goal is to train people to go local. Fight locally. Forget lawyers. Forget politicians. Forget celebrities. You’ve got to learn politics. And there is a science to it. They lock us down, we should be ready to shut them down.

And the fourth part of this principle is the not so obvious establishment. So when you look at a system, there’s always something that disturbs you from getting to your goal. The biggest disturbance is the not so obvious establishment. Which are those people who claim they’re for you. On the left and the right.

The Al Sharptons who tell black people I’m for you. The Tucker Carlsons. Do you think any true anti establishment person will ever be on Fox or CNN? I don’t think so. They both mislead working people back into the establishment. Without this system. solid understanding of political physics and theory, you’re screwed.

You’re going to follow on the left wing Bernie Sanders, oh he said something, or Robert Kennedy, scumbags. Or you’re going to follow some right wing talk show host. They’re not going to lead us to liberation, it’s us. We’re building a bottoms up movement, and that political physics, it’s a nuclear science of change.

Bottoms up. We have to organize to understand that there is people who talk a good game. And then look at what they actually do, left and right. I’m sorry, Sean Hannity may say some good things, but I don’t see the urgency in his voice to get something done. And it can only come when you weaponize yourself with the right knowledge.

You need to be able to identify a rat. Christ didn’t go after the Romans, right? It was the Pharisees and the Sadducees who screwed him up. His own quote unquote people and that’s where we’re at. So these four concepts I’ve built into a curriculum where people can go to truthfreedomhealth. com and it’s an educational program We need to train people in political theory You need to have physics and i’ve created that curriculum people need to get educated We need to get educated fast and within a half an hour, I can teach people two years of MIT control systems.

I teach people those concepts that I apply it. Anyone can understand it. And then you say, Oh, I got to build a bottoms up movement. They have to get politically astute and then they have to go locally and act, not sit there on social media. They have to act locally, defy locally, do civil obedience locally, but with knowledge on how to build a movement.

The Senate campaigns expanded to the movement for truth, freedom, and health, and they can find it on truth, freedom, and health. So people can sign in, they can get access to a bunch of videos. If they want to take a course and become a Truth Freedom Health leader, I offer a full scholarship there. But we want people to make a commitment that they’ll study, that they’ll get certified, that they’ll go do activities on the ground.

Go to truthfreedomhealth. com

Alright everyone, we’re going to take one more question. I just want to, again emphasize to everyone, we have a movement. Go become a truth, freedom, and health warrior. If you made it this far, come to our open house. And this is to everyone listening. If you come once, come again, but every Thursdays tomorrow 11 AM and also at 8 PM, we host open houses.

It’s a lot of time, a lot of commitment, but we enjoy bringing new people in. So 11 AM EST, you can go to va shiva. com right there. Dot com slash orientation. And sign up. And we have a town hall Shiva for president. com slash town hall, get involved. It’s a simple way. You don’t have to do much. We have to do the work and setting it up and talking and creating the presentation, but you get to meet a lot of great people and you get to.

We lead you on a path to get involved. So we’ll take one more question and then we’ll wrap up and I’m sure maybe we’ll have a follow up. Are you there? Okay. Let’s take one more. Yep. Okay. Thank you for these. I know it took a lot of effort for you to organize them. So I appreciate the effort that you put in.

Let’s talk reality. Now we never know when we’re going to leave this world. Every moment is precious. Let’s assume that you never hear from. Matrices for your chronicles again, we would like to tell a brief story and give our best idea on how to shatter the swarm Much more powerful than adding that natural born stuff to your litigation, which is this and we’ve only reached question 17 of 100 or more so We’ll see if we can get your bumper sticker soon enough to take a photograph of it on a vehicle to allow us to ask more questions I like it.

I’m gonna i’m gonna i’m gonna take it. It’s a good idea brief story. And then the idea on shattering the swarm, there was a wonderful Indonesian superhero movie called, we believe it’s called pronounced gondola. That’s a masked superhero. He has a mask and he gets power from bolts of lightning after heroic action, a scene fighting the bad guys.

Someone asks, who are you? And he says something like no one, and then walks off and they say, I want to tell the people who you are. And he pauses and turns and says, just tell them I’m one of them. I’m one of you. I’m one of the people. And that’s it. This is the best idea on shattering the swarm.

Let’s go with the idea. Worst case scenario, SCOTUS Supreme court of the United States will not hear. Your case and or they produce some ridiculous one page dismissal get Millions, whatever it is hundreds of thousands millions of people to take a photo of their face With their ballot showing your name on the ballot put it on your website get her all over social media so that if the numbers are high enough actually no matter what whether you’re getting a million people to vote for you or 20 million, whatever it is declare yourself as the legitimate Winner of the presidency of the United States and don’t say me say we the people the truth freedom and health movement We are the true potus because the more noise you can create the more people are likely to show up at particular Situations that have to be addressed immediately, you know in spirit, with the phrase they lock us down We need to be ready to lock them down.

Exactly and that’s the idea because we just can’t predict, we have to fight and litigate and so forth. We could eventually probably will eventually will in that win in that way. But that eventuality notwithstanding or whatever the correct word is, if plan a doesn’t work, plan B may be better.

To actually have the numbers and mobilize through the web because we perhaps are more fortunate than the Egypt situation where Mubarak shut down social media, the powers that should not be here in America may not ever have The gumption to actually shut the web So as long as the web is there and there’s a way of quickly sending out messages to arrive at particular places then that’s as powerful or more powerful than the presidency because ultimately as i’ve said to associates Politicians are really they’re no different than A barking dog, they’re dressed in three piece suits, you know They might as well be yelling at the top of their lungs from an apartment building.

The only reason If anyone takes them seriously, it’s because they have a small or large army waiting in the wings to carry out what they say. The politician is really a puppet of the swarm. They do some shindig called a debate in an election to figure out who can manipulate people. But anyway, this is great.

Let’s continue. And yeah, let’s talk offline. Maybe you can set up some time with Manju for Crystal, you and I to follow up. Let’s do that at some point. My thought is it’s the cops ultimately that you have to reach. Yeah. Because if you can win over the law enforcement, the people that carry the guns, they won’t listen.

Yeah. They will join the people. Yeah. As you said, they’re the ones who make the difference in the movements. If you go look back at the Boston Free Speech Rally, where we took a stand. We organize a free speech rally in the, and it’s called the Boston commons, which was historically the place where you had open speech for many, multiple centuries that when we went out there, the government branded us as Nazis.

They said I was a Nazi because we had people from all different spectrums wanting to speak. And they riled up 40, 000 people to show up against 40 of us. You can see it just type in Boston free speech rally. Everyone should go do that. And many of these young kids had never seen these kind of people. And, we led that movement and many of the cops, the government essentially takes uses cops, right?

Right now they’re using cops that are not educating them on the fact that we’re allowed to collect signatures. So the police actually are, get used by the cops. And so anyway, it was 40, 000 people. You can see it versus 40 of us. This was on August, 2017. Everyone should go look at that. And the reality was many of the police have great respect in Boston for the work.

That I did because they knew that we stood on principle and how the government almost got them killed. So I understand that, we don’t have a plan air plan B. We only have plan a plan is build a movement and you will never lose by building the movement. Anyway. Thank you, everyone. I hope this is valuable again.

Everyone get off your butts. We’re going to give you again, the formula or simple things you can do, because we know everyone has different levels of work, go get a bumper sticker, go to Shiva for president. Number one, number two, go to Shiva for president. And get one of those flyers. This is something everyone can do it.

You go to Schieffer for president, you can hit download and you will actually see if you click on free downloads, you get access to this flyer, download this flyer, it’s open sourced. Hand it out to all your friends because it explains to people what is going on. What’s going on with the fact that the lifespan of your child is now shorter than yours.

You can also have other things, lawn signs, cards, bumper stickers, or just go here and shop here. Okay. Order stuff, give your money to the right cause. We don’t charge a lot. If you want to donate great. When you donate to us, there’s little donate button here. I give you all sorts of information. I give you books and content and courses because it’s hard for me to take something from people without giving anything that’s just.

Sort of how I was brought up. So get involved. You have many different opportunities to get involved, but fundamentally, one of the most powerful ways to get involved is volunteer, and then finally go to truth, freedom, health. com and become a warrior scholar. Anyway, I hope this was valuable as, and I’m just if you can stay on hold.

As we sign off, I just want you to all remember what we’re doing. We need to build a bottoms up movement. Go to shiva4president. com and volunteer.


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