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Dr.SHIVA discusses the need to move beyond Left and Right, Black and White, Anti-vaxx and Pro-vaxx narrative that Establishment uses to keep the masses distracted so they can consolidate power, profit and control.

  • Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD – Inventor of Email, scientist, engineer, educator – explains a Systems Approach to how Obama Saved Big Banks, how Trump Saved Big Pharma & how they both saved billionaires.
  • Anyone still buying into the Left & Right, Pro & Anti, Black & White, and the theatre that is created to distract you while your freedoms are being taken – are being taken for a ride and will be further enslaved.
  • Obama bailed out Big Banks after they created the housing bubble and gave loans to people they should have never given loans to. Those Big Banks should have crashed and burned, instead under Obama with the help of Elizabeth Warren they destroyed small banks with Dodd-Frank.
  • During the so-called “pandemic” when everyone was in lockdown, billionaires doubled their wealth by 2.3 trillion. Jeff Beso alone doubled his wealth by 100 billion to 200 billion. Trump helped keep interest rates low so Big Pharma could keep borrowing with no interest.
  • Operation Warp Speed was a big gift to Big Pharma. It eliminated all the normal costly testing, and now this year alone Pfizer will make $26 billion dollars when they were previously tanking due to the archaic R&D model. 

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Good evening, everyone. It’s Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai. It’s been a long week. Since I returned from the Red Pill Expo in South Dakota. So I’ve been extremely busy on-boarding our attorneys. And I’ll update you guys on that, on our lawsuit. More importantly, we’re going to talk about the physics of politics. And why it’s extremely important that everyone actually takes five steps back and go Beyond Left & Right, Beyond Black & White, Beyond Trump & non-Trump or whatever you want to call it, Pro- & Anti-, to really get their heads together to understand how we build a movement to get the Truth Freedom Health we deserve.

And we live in very critical times because there’s a huge opportunity to Get Educated or to be Enslaved. But there’s an equal opportunity to actually fall into the darkness of the theater and the nonsense that the Establishment runs. So we’re going to talk about the physics of how politics actually works. And I encourage everyone – it’s taken me about 50 years to do this separate from being a scientist, an engineer, and an inventor. I’ve had a parallel life in using all the scientific knowledge to actually understand politics almost at the nuclear physics level, and then put it into a framework that everyone can understand.

Truth Freedom Health®

Those of you who are truly are committed to yourselves and your family, but particularly to you, to wanting to raise your consciousnesses and figure out how you can be an enlightened citizen and help move the world forward. I encourage you all to take the course that I put together at, that’s called the Foundation of Systems. And then we’ve created an alumni community where people can interact and then where people can actually get active. But if you’re committed to wanting to be in the dialectics of Left & Right, Trump & Bernie, Biden & McConnell, whatever that nonsense is, it is all just theatrics that you’re going to learn today. And we’re going to give you a glimpse of that.

But we’re going to look at how – whether it was a black guy, Obama, or white guy, Trump – they both run theatrics. I don’t care how good or nice you think they are. You have to see it as a part of a larger system. And we’re going to talk about that. So, we’re gonna look at what Obama did with the Big Banks. A lot of people who voted for Trump, if you talk to them, they all voted for Obama. And a lot of people who did vote for Obama ended up voting for Trump. So they went from a black guy who confused the American working class to a white guy who did the same thing.

And if you want to go Left & Right, Black & White, and get involved in the new reality show of the day, you can go do that. But I’m warning you that it’s not going to lead to actually building a movement, which is the only thing that history shows has always liberated people. The American working class can be really the bulwark of a massive movement. But the American working class is also one of the most exploited classes on the planet because the Establishment knows the incredible power that the American working class has, because of the First Amendment and because of the Second Amendment. So their commitment, fundamentally, is to make sure that the working class in this country is continually exploited.

But before we do that, I want to play a video for you. So, all of you understand the reality of what we’re dealing with, and the fact that what we’re building here, globally, is not just to talk and critique, but we’re actually building a movement. It’s not a political party, but it’s a movement to educate you. So, you become an enlightened citizen and a force for change. Let me play this video for everyone.

Science of Systems

You know, one of the things that I’m committed to on the platform is fundamentally education. But the education that we do here is not just scholarly, not just theoretical. It is both being the scholar and the blacksmith, meaning that our goal is to educate all of you first on the Foundations of Systems, which I just talked about in the video. And it’s important because the knowledge of Systems Science is a knowledge that’ll help liberate people from pretty much everything.

If you think about politics, if you think about your body, health, if you think about understanding technology, the Science of Systems is what is necessary. It’s a science that has existed for 1000s of years, more recently in the 1930s. But what I have worked on hard is to create a way to explain the Science of Systems, which is probably understood by about a handful of people, maybe 10,000 people in the world, on a good day. But it is the Science of Systems that is used against working people, to manipulate them, watch them, surveillance them, and to always see which way that they’re moving, so the establishment can contain them.

And if you understand this, you’ll start recognizing that there are two worlds here, the reality of what’s going on, and then the fake world, the world of the illusion, the world of people acting like they’re fighting for you. Be it Obama or be it Trump, be it Bernie, or be at some other bozo, okay, on the Left or the Right. And that world is to keep you entertained, to get you all emotional, and to get you all connected to characters and personalities. While over here, you’re being robbed. And so we want to talk about that.

Now, those of you who want to remain in this world and be in the theater and be part of Hollywood, celebrity entertainment, you have every freedom to do that everyone can do that. But don’t think that when you’re over here in this world, on the Left or the Right, fighting for what you think Trump is fighting for you, or Bernie, or whether if you’re a Democrat, Biden, or whether McConnell whatever it is, you will realize that this is essentially theater, and particularly the Establishment wings of both parties need the fuel of the Not-So-Obvious-Establishment wings. That’s one of the things we teach in the course.

But without the knowledge of this course, particularly in this century, you will be fooled and you will be taken advantage of, and you will think you’re supporting someone, and what you’re actually doing is being more and more enslaved. The only way out is to see things as they are. And the way you see things as they are is to understand the Science of Systems. Without that knowledge, you will always be seduced into the next flavor of the month.

David vs Goliath Lawsuit

So, recently, as many of you know, I spoke at the Red Pill Expo. I think there’s about 1500 people there. I opened up the morning – called David vs Goliath – and the talk that I gave was the foundational talk of the whole event. Really talking about what is going on with our lawsuit. As many of you know, we’re involved in the Lawsuit of the Century and everyone can go to, and I’ll give you an update on the lawsuit before I go into the essence of the talk today.

But if you go to, I want to make sure everyone understands what’s going on and where we’re at with that lawsuit. But it is this movement that is leading that lawsuit, no other movement. And our movement is the one that discovered that what was fundamentally going on in the United States is that the Government Launders Censorship through Big Tech.

And I ran for US Senate. It was the GOP, the Republican Party, which I was a part of which did not want to see one of us coming Bottoms-up, which worked with the Democrats. So all of you who are involved in the Republicans or the Democrats recognize they’re one. They did not want a person like myself who represents Bottoms-up people, a movement, to win. So the Republican – The Massachusetts GOP in the Republican primary found a fool who had, no one knew him, to run against.

And then it’s obvious when we look at the lawsuit and what we filed, which has, by the way, not been dismissed. All of Trump’s lawsuits got dismissed. None of my lawsuits have been dismissed, survived dismissal. And we’ve shown with un-rebutted, mathematical evidence that the voting machines were used to multiply my votes by two thirds and my opposition by 1.2. But after we, quote unquote, “lost” that September 1st primary, we didn’t end. We continued our election. And we had the slogan “Stop Election Fraud” long before Trump. We led that; Trump didn’t help us. No one from the Republican Party helped us. And we continued our write-in campaign.

And what we discovered was that the government deletes Ballot Images, which is a violation of federal law. So I exposed that on Twitter. And the instant I did that, the government contacted Twitter. Let me repeat that again. The government contacted Twitter to have them take me off. And then that resulted in a lawsuit for which we had a hearing on October 30th. Our first hearing, we’re in a four-hour hearing, we discovered that the government has a Partnership with Twitter. The government, Republicans and Democrats, have a partnership with Twitter at the state level, at the local level.

So, if you say something against a government be it on Medical Freedom, be it on election integrity, they have a hotline to Twitter. And they can throw you off. Where the government ends and where Twitter begins, nobody knows. So, the Judge suggested I bring in Twitter so he could give me complete relief. On May 20th and 21st, I alone went up against seven lawyers. And we’ve further made more history because we discovered these playbooks, which I’ve shared here.

We discovered these playbooks. Four of them were submitted as evidence showing that these playbooks were developed by the government and Twitter and the National Association of State Election Directors. And we were the first to show that the government has a censorship infrastructure against every American in the United States, first Law lawsuit of its kind.

The Judge on the 21st came in and he said, “More than likely this lawsuit will be taught in every law school, in a Constitutional Law class.” No one did that. But this movement – Trump didn’t do it, Bernie didn’t do it… All of them know about this playbook, all of them. Because this was developed by Republicans and Democrats. So, I don’t want to hear anything about Republicans and Democrats being different. That’s the theater over here.

If you want to be in the theater, and if you’re a working person, you’re basically being taken for a ride. And that’s what happened over the last four years. Somebody told you, “I’m going to lock her up, lock her up.” And you got all passionate about that. I did too. But you know, who’s locked up, not Hillary, but working people who followed somebody, Trump, who said, “I’ll walk with you.” So wake up. And the way to wake up is to Get Educated, or You Can Be Enslaved. It’s your choice. I’m just a messenger of knowledge.

The judge took a recess in the hearing. And he said, “I want to appoint you constitutional lawyers,” which he did. I just engaged them. Was a lot of work over the last week. But we have, myself still, I can have hybrid representation, which means I can still talk in court. And we have three constitutional lawyers. This is the lawsuit of the century and everyone here can participate in this in a number of ways. First of all, I want everyone to recognize that this is your lawsuit now. It’s not mine. I was just fortunate to be able to have the wherewithal to bring it this far. But I encourage all of you to go to And what you’ll see here is that this is the site for the lawsuit,, it redirects here. And I want everyone to donate just $1, just $1.

Win Back Freedom

All of you who gave, you know so much money to Trump or the Democrats, we don’t want to take you for a ride. I want all of you to give $1 at and become Citizen Journalists because this is the most important lawsuit where we have unequivocally discovered that the government – We have a fascist state. I don’t want to hear about China; I don’t want to hear about Russia. You can talk about it. But I don’t want to hear about it. Because we have our enemies right here, the Establishment elites. And all of this was developed at Harvard, Left and Right put it together, Republicans and Democrats. So, go to and support what we’re doing.

Beyond Left & Right

I’ve also set up a call-in line for today, because I want to have an open discussion about, you know, this entire thing with the political system. And I want to step back a little bit and talk to everyone. You know, I’ve been a political activist since I was about 14-15 years old, probably even going back longer growing up in India, when I realized that I grew up in a Caste System that we were treated differently, because of what we’re born. And I came to the United States, grew up in the working class towns in New Jersey.

And when I came to MIT, I was interested in two things and a Systems Approach to the body, medicine, but also politics. And starting my career as an undergraduate at MIT, to this day you can see that I’ve always been highly critical of the Left wing of the Democratic Party. I broke in 1984, when I was an undergraduate at MIT, when I saw Jesse Jackson, who later became a member of the Reform Party, with Trump, misleading all of these people.

So, you have Walter Mondale running against Reagan here and Jesse Jackson was building what he claimed was an independent movement called the Rainbow Coalition, which is really the Left wing of the Democratic Party, no different than Black Lives Matter. And he claimed he was for working people, etc. And that’s the rhetoric these people use. And at the last minute, what did Jesse Jackson do? He spoke the “lesser of two evils”, and he gave all of his votes to Walter Mondale.

And that’s when – I think I must have been 19 – I broke with all of these guys, and I said, “Both parties suck, Republicans and Democrats.” And as I studied history, it became clear that movements, not political parties, are what changed the course of human history, political movements. What were those movements? Those movements were led Bottoms-up by working people, Bottoms-up. And when you take the course, you’ll realize that those movements began in the United States within the 1800s, went all the way to the mid 1900s.

And that’s why we have infrastructure in this country. That’s how we got the eight-hour workday. If you’re a working person, any of the rights you have today, came from those movements, not Republicans or Democrats. Not from Donald Trump, not from Bernie Sanders. That’s not where they came from. Not from Mitch McConnell, not from Joe Biden. Not from Franklin Delano Roosevelt, none of those people. It was people’s movements, Bottoms-up. And those movements escalated up until the 1930s. When the Elites in this country, Republicans and Democrats, thought they were going to have a revolution.

So, they were forced to give working people reforms, nutrition, nutritional programs, you know, infrastructure, highways, roads, bridges, all of those things. And it was because of those movements, you will see, between 1948 to 1975 the American Pie grew for everyone. All incomes did well. But the Elites, Left and Right, hated the fact that they had to give working people some of those gains, public health, nutrition, eight-hour workday, you know, better water systems. So what they did is – There’s a video talking about it, it’s very important to understand.

The Right wing basically branded anytime you said “working people unite” it’s Communists, and the Left wing – So they wanted to cut off Bottoms-up movements, and the Left wing took advantage of that. And they created the top-down unions. And in fact, by the 1970s, those unions became so oppressive to the workers that they convinced workers not to strike anymore. Between 1945 and 1975, nearly 100 to 200 million workers struck in this country for their rights, but starting in 1975-78 till today, there’s been maybe a couple of million workers who strike. We don’t have any more Bottoms-up movement. Instead, we have theater. We have theater. We have theatrics. That’s what we have in this country. The Left and the Right.

Obama Set the Stage for Trump

Let’s go back to the election of Barack Obama, okay? Many Trumpers voted for Obama. Many working people voted for Obama. There are people who came to me and said, “Hey, Obama is a black guy; he’s your skin color. Why don’t you vote for him?” Right? Probably a little bit lighter than me but anyway, they said, “Why don’t you vote for him?” I said, “He’s part of the Establishment. He’s going to do exactly what Jesse Jackson did in 1984. He’s going to talk a good game. But he’s part of them.”

I mean, here’s Obama, who was just found from nowhere, a one-term senator, and a lot of working people got impressed by him, this theatrics: hope, change. Okay? Black guy talking about this, and they create Hollywood stories around these people. And a lot of people supported Obama, Barack Obama. And if you’re a Trumper, it’s probably 50% of Trumpers who supported Obama at one time. And what did Obama actually do? What did he actually do for you? Let’s talk about what he did in the area of science.

He consolidated it and he gave more power to the National Science Foundation and NIH organizations, which consolidated power. So science went from scientific method to scientific consensus. What did he do in the area of health? He didn’t bust up Big Pharma. He didn’t bust up Big Healthcare. He didn’t bust up Big Insurance. He supported them. He created Obama Care. What that did was put so many layers. And what it fundamentally did was create monopolies out of probably the three major insurance companies, the three major pharma companies and a handful of big hospital chains. That’s what it created, that was done by a guy who a lot of working people voted for. He screwed working people.

Obama Saved Big Banks

But the coup d’etat of what Obama did was what he did with Big Banks. Big Banks. Big Banks were tanking, right? They had given loans to people they should never have even given loans to. They created the housing bubble. They should have all been destroyed and crashed and burned. There are 10,000 small banks in the United States, which are the true lifeblood of the American innovation enterprise. They’re the true lifeblood of the economy.

Go look it up. Most countries have four major banks. But in America, not only do we have four or five banks, but we have nearly 10,000 at that time, eight to 10,000 small banks. Well, thanks to Elizabeth Warren, thanks to Obama, thanks to all these guys, and Republicans and Democrats, they destroyed those small banks with Dodd-Frank, quote-unquote, “regulation”. But when the economy crashed in 2008, who saved them? Who saved them? Who saved all the billionaires on Wall Street? It was Barack Obama, a child of Wall Street, buddies and friends here out of Harvard. That’s what he did.

Those banks – If it was a true market economy, all right? Ben Shapiro, he’s a complete fool. He talks about market economy and doesn’t even know what he’s talking about. If there was a true market economy, they should have all failed. But they protected their own. That’s what happened. Big Banks should have fallen and crashed and burned to the ground, if it was a true market economy. But Barack Obama saved them. And he printed around $4 trillion. It was called “Quantitative Easing”, okay?

Barack Obama did that for two, you know, after two terms. He saved Big Banks. That’s what Obama did. So get that clear. Barack Obama was presented by Wall Street, because they were watching that the working people in this country, people like you and I, were getting upset. So they found a black guy, right? It’s all casting calls, created by some nice Madison Avenue sale advertising for him. And what ended up happening about that was that you have Obama coming into the picture.

And Barack Obama essentially destroyed lots of small banks, printed four point trillion dollars, to save Wall Street, and to save a handful of Big Banks. Go look at what happened. They had a midnight meeting at the White House to save these Big Banks. They should have crashed and burned. So that $4.2 trillion… Most Americans didn’t see that that was used to bail out Big Banks and billionaires. Thank you, Barack Obama. That’s what took place.

Now go to 2016, all right? During 2018 & 2016, again I encourage everyone to take the course at, because you need to understand the Science of Systems. This is not about your opinions anymore. Your opinions may get you killed or may put you in poverty in this century. A lot of the people in the Q-movement need to put an ‘I’ in front of that ‘Q’. They need to get an IQ, okay?

They’re misleading people. They’re in delusion. It’s really insanity. We need to go back to ground reality. And who do you trust with ground reality? You look at people like mothers. You look at people like an electrician, like a plumber, like an engineer like myself, entrepreneurs who have to build things. We cannot live in the world of Q and potentialities.

We have to look at what’s going on right now and apply Systems Science and Engineering. Otherwise, we’re out of business. So get with the program here. And if you don’t want to do it, please go stay in the theater. And please go take one side or the other and go screw yourselves, because that’s what’s going to happen to you. But we need to build a movement like what took place in the late 1800s in the early 1900s. And that’s what we’re doing with the Truth Freedom Health movement. Our goal is to build a powerful movement that puts the fear of God into the Elites. So we can once again reclaim what this country is really about. Our, our lawsuit is about getting back to freedom.

Trump Saved Big Pharma

Now let’s go to Trump. So Obama saved the elites. And how did he save them? He kept the interest rates low. Saved Wall Street; saved the bankers. But just remember since 1978, when the unions sold out everyone, there has been no movement in this country. So starting in 1972 to today, there are two American pies now. Twenty-five percent of American people are out of work. So I don’t want to hear about, you know, the Democrats and Republicans under Trump have done so much for the economy. No, 25% of American people are out of work. Go look it up.

And out of those people that are working hard, hard working Americans, over the last 50 years, their wages have gone down by 66%. And in the last one year from March of 2020 till today, 600 billionaires during a so-called “pandemic” during a so-called time when they were in lockdowns, have doubled their wealth by $2.3 trillion. Jeff Besos’ wealth was $100 billion before the pandemic, 9 months later became $200 billion. That’s just one guy.

That was done during the Trump administration. I gave money to Trump. You gave money to Trump. I put up signs for Trump. I was loyal to him. But I have to look at the reality. And if you don’t want to look at the reality and you just want to bark and be a member of a cult, then you’re in this theater. You’re not in reality.

Quantitative Easing, what was that? Quantitative Easing was just making money up out of thin air so Wall Street, the bankers, and huge corporations could survive. Because many of their businesses were built on quicksand, not like your business or my business, which was built on making sure I had cash. I had real customers, etc. Their businesses are built on quicksand. So they’ve artificially kept interest rates low, so they can borrow, borrow, borrow.

They don’t run real businesses. They run businesses on your backs through debt financing. So they keep interest rates low. Well, that pot was boiling. And they knew it was going to let off pretty soon, okay, they had to let off steam. In addition to this, what I want to talk about is one of those industries, which was driven by loans, and a lot of this was Big Pharma.

I want people to listen carefully to Big Pharma. I know about this well. I know about this well because I have a PhD in Biological Engineering out of the number one institute, and it’s called MIT. Biological Engineers and Systems Biologists look at the pharmaceutical development process. We look at the Systems Level of it.

So now you’re going to learn some systems stuff so you understand just like how Obama saved Big Banks, Trump, I don’t care whether he’s a nice guy or a good guy, it’s all irrelevant. But he saved Big Pharma in the last four years, like Big Banks, they should have crashed and burned. But he saved Big Pharma. Now, why do I say that? Why do I say that?

Big Pharma Development Model

Well, here’s the simple reality of it. Going back to the mid 90s, as a systems guy, when you start looking at the Big Pharma development model, that’s their Systems Model, it’s been tanking. It’s built on a medieval model. So what do I mean by that? Pharmaceutical companies, pharmaceuticals, the definition of pharmaceutical is a company that makes pharmaceuticals.

Forget vaccines. Forget vitamins. Pharmaceuticals, what’s a pharmaceutical? A pharmaceutical is a chemical compound that does not exist in nature. Let me repeat that. Again, a pharmaceutical is a chemical compound that does not exist in nature.

Vitamin C exists in nature, okay? Iodine exists in nature. Zinc is a mineral that exists in nature. But a pharmaceutical does not exist in nature. It’s a compound that’s synthesized in a lab. Pharmaceutical companies have libraries, actually libraries, of around 30,000 of these pharmaceutical compounds, these chemicals, and pharmaceutical companies, whether it’s J&J, whether it’s Pfizer, any of these companies, Eli Lilly, they’re trying to look at that library of 30,000 compounds and try to figure out, can they use it to solve the disease? So how do they do that?

Well, in order for them to do that and get it from a compound that they think may work all the way through this very, very long, stringent development process out to you the public, it takes them around 13 years and $5 billion in investment, 13 years and $5 billion. Why does it take them 13 years and $5 billion? Well, from the time they have a compound, all the way to getting it out to the public, there’s many processes. Well, the first process is – What they have to do is they have to hire lawyers. And if they think they have a compound, they have to patent it. So they have to pay patent fees, okay? That can be about a quarter of a million dollars, relatively small in the grand scheme of things for them.

Then they take that compound and they put, let’s say, cancer cells or plaque in a test tube, and they test it, okay? If they get good results, then they go raise, maybe they invest maybe 40-50, to $100 million to do more of these tests in test tubes. Then after that, after maybe a couple of years after that, then they go kill a bunch of poor animals, dogs and cats and rats and chimpanzees, whatever it is, to show that that drug is not going to be toxic. They do animal studies. Now you’re talking about five years, and they probably spent, you know, maybe a quarter of a billion dollars, $250 million.

That’s what that process took. That took five years. Now, if they have found that their drug works in a test tube, it didn’t kill too many animals, they go to the FDA, Food and Drug Administration, and they apply for what’s called an Investigational New Drug, an IND. And the FDA may take somewhere between one to two years to allow them to now go do testing on humans. So that’s seven years later, five plus two. So now in those next, let’s say, six years, they get an allowance from the FDA first to do Phase One Trials. What’s Phase One Trial? They get small groups of humans, maybe 20-30, 25-50 humans, and they test that drug. That’s called a Phase One Test.

If the drug doesn’t hurt too many people without side effects, and by the way, only 20% make it out of Phase One, then the FDA allows them to go to Phase Two, which could be maybe 1000 humans 2000-5000 humans. And then if it makes it out of Phase Two, then it goes to Phase Three, which could be 50,000 human trials. And then out of that, if they make it, then it becomes a drug, which they can market. And when they market it, they have to list any of the side effects.

Now, here’s the rub. That took 13 years, let’s say. They only have seven years, because a patent life is ticking. Thirteen years, and the drug they come out with, pharmaceutical drug, if it has side effects and it kills you, you can sue a pharmaceutical company in federal court, okay? So the pharmaceutical companies: 13 years, $5 billion dollars, they only have seven years to regain their investment. And you can sue them. So just understand, that is the drug development process.

And as I’ve shared with you over and over and over again, and go see the videos, what is happening in this development process over the last 15 years, even the FDA is not allowing many of these drugs to go to market because of the side effects and the toxicity. Even the FDA is not allowing… So pharma companies spend more and more and more in R&D and less and less new drugs are being allowed by the FDA. I’ll repeat that again. Pharmaceutical companies are investing more and more dollars in R&D in this very medieval archaic process. And less and less new drugs are coming out of it. They’re being screwed. Their industry is tanking.

In 2003, when I came back to MIT, my advisors told me about this. And he said, “Shiva, if we could create a technology that can help understand what medicines are going to work on the computer, model them, we could first of all save a lot of lives. We could save all these, you know, testing that they do, which is really not innovative.” And that was one of my motivations for creating CytoSolve. I said, “Wow, I could save a lot of people’s lives.” In fact, we went to Pfizer and we said, “We can help you save lives.” And they gave us a contract to mathematically model lupus, which is an awful disease, on the computer.

There was a section of people who peeled away from Pfizer in their Innovation Group and said, “Wow, what Shiva is saying is brilliant.” And as we started doing the work, we had mathematically modeled lupus, that entire group disappeared because pharma does not want innovation. I actually attempted to help these guys with innovation, but they don’t care about innovation. What they care about is their stock price. So, every time the drug makes it after phase one, the stock price goes up. Phase two, phase three, that’s their model. They don’t care to be innovative. So pharmaceutical companies have been tanking. This is the reality, Big Pharma, like Big Banks, was tanking.

For example, just consider this. One of those companies, Pfizer, who I attempted to help, okay? In 2011, they made $65 billion. Today, they make $41 billion because they’re not innovative. They don’t care about killing, whether they kill animals or not. They don’t care about whether they hurt humans or not. They’re just looking at their stock price. So their business model is failing. They lost $25 billion from 2011 to 2020. You can go look it up. Pharmaceutical companies have been tanking. It’s a trillion dollar industry, just in Q1 alone of 2020, I believe, they lost nearly $2.3 trillion in market cap, okay? So now you can go – You don’t have to believe me. You can go look at all the facts on this. But pharmaceutical companies have been tanking, all right? This is the reality of it. This is the factual reality. All right?

Now let’s talk about vaccines or the “jabines”, or the “jabinations” as I call them. Okay? Well, in 1962, John Kennedy signed the National Vaccination Act, which created all the organs of government to basically start pushing “jabinations” everywhere. That was John Kennedy. By 1986, people were noticing that they were getting injuries from vaccines because the 1962 Vaccination Act was based on a 1915 model of the Immune System, which I’ve talked about. You can go research and go study the videos.

I’ve talked, I was the first one to talk about it back in March of 2020. I was the one who told Trump, “Fire Fauci.”( We collected 150,000 signatures; I drove down day and night with our bus. So all you Trumpers out there who want to mindlessly follow a cult leader know that he was a President of the United States, supposedly with brass balls. Here is Fauci who is the biggest swamp creature on the planet. He’s been there for 40 years. Trump did not fire him. He fired a lot of other people, in and out, but he didn’t fire Fauci.

In fact I wrote a detailed letter. It was delivered to him in the White House. The deputy director of Domestic Policy, I talked to him for about an hour. I told him about Fauci. He had all the data; so I don’t want to hear, “Trump didn’t know!” You’re in a cult if you keep thinking that. He knew. He had all the information in front of him. For four years, he did not fire Fauci. Trump did not fire Fauci. Fauci and Big Pharma are like this. So 1986 when Fauci was in there, Ted Kennedy sponsored a bill, which did not get rid of the 1962 Vaccination Act. What did it do? It bolstered up Big Pharma and vaccine manufacturers. It said that you cannot sue. You cannot sue a vaccine manufacturer in federal court. (

They created a different court with a limited liability of $250,000 if your kid died. Think about this. Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, sponsored that bill. It’s called the National Vaccine Injury Program. That’s what we have and I’ve had to expose Robert F. Kennedy. He’s pro-Vaxx. ( He wants quote-unquote, “safe” vaccines.

I had to do the dirty job there and take the hit last year, but now people are understanding. We educated people. Our movement did. So the vaccine market, the vaccine industry, is growing at 17% per year, 17%. Pharmaceutical industry is going down the tubes. For every $1 pharmaceutical is invested in the pharmaceutical business, they only get 1.8 cents back. But, you know, you put $1 in here, you’re getting you know 17% growth. So the vaccine industry’s explosively growing. Pharmaceuticals, the trillion-dollar pharmaceutical industry is tanking. So here comes the vaccine industry.

So the vaccine industry… A.) It’s a biologic. It doesn’t need to go through all those testings, so it already had a relaxed testing model. B.) You cannot sue a vaccine manufacturer, if you get hurt, in federal court. You have to go to this… some Health and Human Services court. Now comes Trump. Here he is. He has an opportunity to make history. He knows in front of him, he’s got a lot of people who know him that there’s many other protocols for boosting the immune system. Talks a big game, “Hydroxychloroquine… da da da da da, right?

Operation Warp Speed

What did he actually do? At the end of the day? What did he actually do? He pushed through Operation Warp Speed. What did Operation Warp Speed do? Eliminate all that testing, no more testing, which is like giving pharmaceutical companies, who are tanking, a big gift. That is what Trump did. He saved Big Pharma. Again, follow the money. In the last 10 years, Pfizer has lost 25 billion in revenue. This year alone, Pfizer will make $26 billion because of Operation Warp Speed. That’s what occurred. So all of you, quote-unquote, “Trumpers”, I was one of them, who blindly thought, “Oh, my God, he was such a great guy.”

Well, you have to go follow the money. It’s not about Trump. It’s about the fact that that’s kabuki theater over here. The big elephant in the room is Big Pharma. Just like the big elephant in the room in 2008 was Big Banks. So what they do is they create some theater over here, “Lock her up,” right? “Lock her up, lock her up;” Russian collusion over here. Big Pharma just got Operation Warp Speed. Pfizer will make $26 billion in one year. Thank you to Donald Trump. Thank you to Fauci. They work together.

Jared Kushner was running the White House. Jared Kushner helped Israel. Israel in January struck a big deal with Pfizer. So Israel could be the marketing vehicle for Pfizer. Israel then gave the chairman of Pfizer their lifetime achievement award. You see what I’m saying? You have to wake up. Obama saved Big Banks; Trump saved Big Pharma. Both helped a lot of billionaires who didn’t deserve to be helped.

Yeah, if you make money legitimately. Sure. Definitely. But did they actually help? Who do these people actually help? They didn’t help you. They didn’t help me, …They didn’t help you, most of the working people in this country, 25% unemployment. So the mainstream media and the Democratic party needs Trump. The Republicans need Trump. The Republicans and the Right wing need people like Bernie and AOC, you see, to keep the dialectics going. That’s the WWF wrestling over here.

But the reality is if you’re a working person today, if you’re making $50,000, because of the way that we’ve been sucked dry over the last 50 years, you should actually be making $120,000. The income of working people has gone down 66%. The average working person today in America is lucky to have $400 in savings in the bank. I’ll repeat that again. Seventy percent of working people don’t even have $400 in savings, hard working people. This is the reality. Big Pharma will make – Pfizer will make 25 billion. Big Pharma has an overall – probably make about 50 billion this year.

So I want people to wake up. I want people to wake up, if you want to wake up. Our movement, Truth Freedom Health, is leading the most politically conscious movement. We begin with training people on the Foundations of Systems. So if you want to help be part of a movement, and you want to help yourself…

Elites Do Not Give a Damn About You

Trump doesn’t give a damn about you. You can’t just walk into Mar-A-Largo, the Kennedys don’t give a damn about you. You can’t just walk into Hyannisport, all right? So wake up. Have some dignity for yourself; have some self-respect. Let’s build a movement. What I’m going to do now is I’m going to encourage people if they want, I’ve set up a call-in and I think this should work. I’m just trying a new call-in service. If people want to call in, they can call in. So people can call and we can talk about any of the topics that I’ve just covered.

But we need to… We need to elevate the discussion in this country because the American people are the finest people on the planet. And for far too long what’s been happening to America is the Republicans and Democrats have been playing you and if you want to be played great, okay? But if you don’t want to be played, I encourage you to dial into 857-997-9545. Okay, so let’s see who’ve we got here….Hello, who do we have? Okay, Can you speak a little louder so we can all hear you?

Ken: Hello, Dr.SHIVA, my name is Ken and I’m calling from Birmingham, Alabama but I’ve been watching for a while, man. I’ve been watching you since I heard about you on the internet. Look, man, whatever you need in the south, call me. All right, man. I’m a recording engineer and whatever you need, man, as far as that, please contact me.

Dr.SHIVA: Okay, thank you very much. Please email me at, because I want to make sure you become part of our Truth Freedom Health warrior community. You got that?

Ken: I will definitely do that. Yeah.

Dr.SHIVA: So we need. Thank you, be well, God bless you.

Ken: God bless you.

Dr.SHIVA: Thank you, be well. Bye bye. Okay, thank you. That was Ken from the South. So let’s get the next person here. All right, so who do we got next?…

Greg: Hello, my name is Greg. I’m calling from New Jersey.

Dr.SHIVA: Hey, Greg, how are you? Good to hear from you.

Greg: I’m doing good.

Dr.SHIVA: So tell us what you want to talk about.

Greg: Me & my fiance firmly believe in everything that you said. And we believe that a Trump supporter is harder to turn than a far left Democrat. At this point, it’s almost like you’re arguing with a wall because some of these Trumpers can’t be turned to see the light because they’re so behind him. They worship him. Like, like my Lord and Savior. They’re worshipping him – like he’s almost like he’s the anti-Christ.

Dr.SHIVA: Well, you know what’s interesting, Ken. What’s your name again?

Greg: My name is Greg.

Dr.SHIVA: Greg, Greg. So what’s interesting is – So what I think – let me just give you my feedback. I think you’re about 50% right. Let me tell you why. I was at the Red Pill Expo, and a lot of well-meaning people came from all over the country. And I will be streaming the video that I did there. And I’ll probably end the call with this, or end the session with this. But one of the most important things in fact. Maybe I should play that video for everyone.

Michelle: Sure.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, let me play that right after this. But it’s a video. It’s a small video I played at the Red Pill Expo. And I would say 99% of the Trumpers who came there, because I had to tell the truth, they all got it. So what I’m saying is, the unfortunate thing is, many don’t, even myself. Look, I never voted ever because I figured out both parties sucked. But Trump was very clever. He had done some good marketing. He knew that the working people in this country were very upset. So, “Lock her up. Lock her up. Lock her up.” That was a good slogan. But it was a Madison-Avenue slogan, but nothing happened.

Greg: Yeah, we just watched the video so…

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, so I think we stand at an important opportunity. So I encourage you to become a Truth Freedom Health warrior. We need people.

Greg: Oh, I’m already there.

Dr.SHIVA: You are? Well, good. Great.

Greg: Have a great day, Doctor.

Dr.SHIVA: Well, thank you. Thank you. Be well thank.

Greg: Thank you. You got it, sir.

Dr.SHIVA: Let’s bring the next person in here. Who else do we have? Do we have anyone else? Hello? Okay. Hello? Yes. Who are you?

Anthony: This is Anthony’s Zingalli, I’m calling in from Temple Pines, Florida.

Dr.SHIVA: Oh, hey, Anthony. How are you? What do you got?

Anthony: Yeah, so about this whole thing…

Dr.SHIVA: Go ahead.

Anthony: Yeah. So first of all, you mentioned that Trump and Fauci are very, very, very close together. Yet… So you sent him a letter. But yet he listened to Dr. Fauci. Why did he listen to Fauci despite you sending him that letter? Sending Trump that letter and everything about, “We don’t need lockdowns…”

Dr.SHIVA: Well, look… Yeah, so Anthony’s question is… Look, so in March of 2020, many of you may know as a Systems Biologist I was the first one in a tweet that I did, which I think went if you remember, Anthony, went to probably 10-20 million people. I said, “This quote-unquote ‘fear-mongering hoax’ will go down in history, to destroy economies, to suppress dissent and to push mandated medicine.”

And subsequently after me doing that tweet, I got a call from one of the chief economists in the country and he said, “Dr.Shiva, please do videos like you’ve been doing.” So if you go back to March of 2020, I was the first one to pound away at these videos, educating people on the Immune System. After that I wrote a long, three-page letter to Trump. Put it up online.( That too went viral. And then it was delivered, hand-delivered to Trump. His deputy director of domestic policy called me and I said, “Look, you can’t be… You got to get rid of this guy, Fauci.” After that many of you remember, we collected close to 120,000 signatures. And…

Anthony: Yeah, I remember that.

Dr.SHIVA: And you guys will remember, me and Richard and Richard’s daughter, we took our bus… It was a long ride, and we drove down there. No one paid us to do that. We did it as a public service for this country. We delivered it to the RNC. The White House wasn’t accepting documents. We delivered it there. Nothing happened. So if you want to talk about, you know, “Drain the swamp,” well, yet the biggest swamp creature was Fauci. I was the first one to call him out. No other doctors, no other scientists wanted to do that.

You remember a lot of these doctors who now are saying, “Oh, Fauci is bad.” Well, where the hell were you back then? Because what history teaches us is you have to say the right thing at the right time. Not when you say, “Oh, I can write a book now because Fauci’s a bad guy.” So yeah, we did that. Trump had an incredible amount, a huge opportunity. If he was a so-called guy with big brass balls, okay? He didn’t do shit. So, all you Trumpers who still want to beg to him. You are reducing your own self-respect. Have some dignity for yourself. We Americans cannot afford to beg for crumbs anymore from billionaires. Thanks, Anthony.

Anthony: Yeah, and I also want to ask if, by the way, if he knew about the debate you were going to have with him last July? I don’t know if he got the date if he knew about it, if that’s why he didn’t show up?

Dr.SHIVA: We don’t know, Anthony. All I know is we invited him; he never showed up. He had a chance to come to MIT and debate us. Thanks, Anthony. Okay, who do we have on the call?

Deniyas: Deniyas. I’m basically a first-generation American. My parents are foreigners. I’m with you guys. I see you all’s fight and struggle. I sat down during the lockdown; so I could really research and I seen your fight. Some things that showed me that maybe Trump was fighting?

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, so let’s talk about that. So look, remember, do you remember? You ever watched WWE or WWF wrestling? You ever watch that?

Deniyas: Of course.

Dr.SHIVA: Okay. So you have let’s say Tweedledee on one side and Tweedledum on the other side, right?

Deniyas: Yep.

Dr.SHIVA: Okay. You know it’s fake, but once in a while, they’ll actually slam each other a little bit, right? Just to keep the crowd entertained. You follow what I’m saying?

Denyas: Yes, I do.

Dr.SHIVA: Okay. So you have to understand the sophistication of these people. The real issue there is over here is the big elephant in the room. You know what that big elephant in the room is? Twenty-five of America, percent of Americans are out of jobs. And the fact is, Amazon was left open. Costco was left open. Walmart was left open. So many of my friends’ small businesses are gone. Thirty percent of restaurants are gone. All the big guys survived and $6.2 trillion was printed. So that’s the big elephant in the room.

Over here is this stuff about, “Lock her up. Lock her up, you know? Hitting at Hillary,” right? It’s like no different than the guy in the WWF taking a chair and whacking it on the other guy’s head once in a while, okay? And you say, “Oh, wow, he’s really fighting for us.” The big elephant in the room is that we as working people have to build our own movement. If you want to wait for a little crumbs, “Oh my God! Trump is great. He gave me this. Oh, Bernie got me this.” They’re throwing you crumbs. It’s like they’re, “Here, here’s a little piece of a some food.” And you’re as a rat, “Oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much, Trump.”

You see what I’m saying?

Deniyas: And I’m with the movement. Um, I want to ask you a question. Fast forward to like now with Fauci getting in trouble and all that. Do you think maybe there’s some type of art of war that maybe Trump’s been playing? That he didn’t fire him because they have some bigger plan to expose the Elites like everybody’s been saying?

Dr.SHIVA: You know, well, let me… Yeah, let me just ask you a question. Okay? Do you know how… Imagine if I told you every… What was your first name again?

Deniyas: Deniyas.

Dr.SHIVA: Deniyas. Deniyas, imagine if I told you… Let’s say you worked for me, okay? And you came to me for a raise and I said, “Deniyas, don’t worry, you know, in six months I’m going to give it to you, okay? Well, it’s going to be coming.” And then a year went by and I said, “Deniyas, it’s going to be coming next month,” you know, “something’s gonna happen.” And that went on for over and over and over again. Okay? Meanwhile your family doesn’t have any money, right? And you’re not doing well. But I keep giving you a carrot, right?

Deniyas: Mmm hmm.

Dr.SHIVA: Well, isn’t that what went on for four years? So let’s just look at the facts. I gave a lot of money to Trump. Myself and my friends, we put up 10,000 signs from all over Massachusetts, everywhere. We worked our butts off. But his campaign was, “Lock her up. Lock her up,” right? Let’s just start with that. The day he got into office, “Well, that was just for the elections.”

Deniyas: Yeah, that’s great.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, that woman should be in jail. Hillary Clinton should be in jail. I’ve talked to many people. She took a State Department computer and she put it in her home. You got to understand, I used to do work for the US Senate. I set up nearly 47 senate offices’ computer systems, email management systems. They are so particular on how you set up a domain address. The fact that she redirected a domain address to a computer in her home so she could have deniability. Everyone should go look at the interview I gave to the New York Times. I said, “This woman should be in jail. What she did was for deniability.”

Deniyas: So I want to ask real quick…

Dr.SHIVA: No, no, no, no. Before you go to that, just one second, okay? I just want you to stay on topic here. For two years, what did we hear, Deniyas? “Lock her up,” right?

Deniyas: Right.

Dr.SHIVA: And the instant he gets into office. He said, “Well, that was just for the elections.”

Deniyas: I didn’t hear that part. But I know that he says that one of the guys he appointed ended up letting her off. One of the guys…

Dr.SHIVA: Whatever. Whatever. See, this is a con man. Okay? I mean, come on. You’re a big boy. You’re the… Trump, you’re the guy with big brass balls, right?

Deniyas: Right.

Dr.SHIVA: You have… but you brought in Bolton. You brought in Rex Tillerson. You brought in all the… and then you fired them, too. You couldn’t fire Fauci? You couldn’t find one special prosecutor? That’s what he said. Do you understand? It’s W… It’s no different than Mad Dog, whatever, Wolverine, you know, talks a big game, right? In those WWF wrestling and then they… in the back of the room, they all get paid. The elephant in the room, the American working people, 25% of us are out of work. Our wages have gone down by nearly 66%. Billionaires keep making money for doing nothing. If they did great things, great.

Deniyas: And basically, you’d only heal our city right now. And we’re… I’m from the state of Massachusetts, but I been living in Texas. And I’m like, “What’s going on with the Massachusetts Senate race?” The whole time I’ve been telling everybody vote for you.

Dr.SHIVA: Right.

Deniyas: Everybody’s all like, “No, no, no we’re going to go with Baker.” And I’m like, “You all’re stupid. He’s the only dude helping us.”

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, so we won that race. We have the only two lawsuits that have survived dismissal, and everyone should go to We have constitutional lawyers. We’re gonna make history with our lawsuits. All of Trump’s lawsuits got thrown out of court. I did my lawsuit with zero money, except some of the money we’re raising now for depositions. Thank you, Deniyas. Thank you very much.

Deniyas: All right, man. Thank you. I appreciate you, man.

Dr.SHIVA: Appreciate you calling in. Be well. All right. Let’s take the next call. Who is this? Hello? Hi, how are you? Yep. Go ahead. How are you?

Caller from Canada: Yeah. Yeah, I’m calling from Canada, actually. I’ll give my commentary on what was going on here with regard to the vaccines. We have somebody like, similar to Fauci. Her name is Theresa Tam. When the vaccines started coming out, it’s very confusing. They constantly contradicted, obviously lying about stuff because I used to work in a hospital. I knew the protocols for COVID and I knew how… what to do. And originally they told us not to wear masks and stuff. Actually, I lost my job over that because I wanted to protect myself, originally, with an N-95 mask. They wouldn’t let me.

But the thing was, is that when one of the members of parliament actually started to point out what she was doing and how inappropriate she was, as you know, Head of Public Health, and what she was doing wrong. And everybody else was saying the same thing. So they turned it into a racial issue because she was from China, is from China. And well (something) and actually they made it a race issue, even though everybody was saying the same thing as this member of parliament, and they tagged him as a racist. But the thing that didn’t tell people is that his wife’s black. You know, they left that out. So nobody, hardly anybody in the country knows that this guy’s wife is black. They made him into a white nationalist, and he’ll probably end up getting kicked out of the party, down the road, you know.

Dr.SHIVA: I see.

Caller from Canada: And, yeah.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, I think the key thing is if you realize this. The pharmaceutical industry, it’s as big as or bigger than the weapons industry, you can go look it up. It’s a multi-trillion dollar industry, that’s a multi-trillion dollar industry… Many years ago, you know, when I went to India on a Fulbright, and I haven’t shared this with too many people, but I will. I think it’s an important time to share this. I was, you know, he was an MIT alumnus, he’d invited a certain number of people to his home and he lived in the wealthiest part of Delhi.

And he, this guy, had been thrown in jail. He was a multi-billionaire, one of the top five wealthiest guys in India. And I said, “What happened to you?” He goes, “Shiva, in my world, you have to understand money is not the currency. It’s weapons, women and drugs.” Let me repeat that again. He said, “The currency is weapons, women, and drugs among us billionaires. That’s the currency we trade in.” Weapons, weapons industry, drugs, which is all sorts of drugs, all right? Illegal and, whatever, illegal and legal. You don’t even know the difference anymore these days, right? And women.

Caller from Canada: Yeah.

Dr.SHIVA: So what we have to understand is all of these people at this strata know what they’re doing. And we as the peasants, as working people, are the numbskulls if we give them so much credence and play in their game. Because the reality is that the trillion-dollar industry of drug development is tanking. The vaccine manufacturing business is their savior. Who gave them Operation Warp Speed? Trump. Who didn’t fire Fauci? Trump. So I don’t care if you people say, “Well,” you know, “Lock her up. He did all this good…” No, what was done was a distraction for four years, so much chaos. Meanwhile, pharma is gonna have the biggest payday in ’21. But thank you, thank you for sharing with us from Canada. The issue is, it’s all about distraction. Thanks.

Caller from Canada: Thank you, sir.

Dr.SHIVA: Let me take another caller. We have one from Massachusetts here. Yep. Go ahead, Massachusetts. Hello. How are you? Why don’t ya go ahead, introduce yourself and ask your question or your comment.

Sean: Hi, I’m Sean, from Cambridge.

Dr.SHIVA: Hey, Sean, how are you?

Sean: Hi. I want to know why you don’t see that the Convention of the States is an important thing to push because that is what caused a revolution back in 1775. And that’s a very important thing that’s going on. And it needs a lot of help.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, no, I’ve heard about it. One of the things we need to recognize is… Look, I love the constitutionalists. You know the judge we have in this case, Sean, is a constitutionalist. Hello? So yeah, so the important thing is you have to take what’s going on that took place in 1775, which is nearly now, what 300 years ago, and be able to bring it up to date in the modern world. They didn’t have the Internet in the 1700s, right? So what we have done, and what we’re doing, which I hope you become a part of is we have to recognize that the founders of this country, when they developed the First Amendment and the Second Amendment, they were… These guys were serious thinkers, serious scientists and engineers and architects, Jefferson, Washington.

They founded the Constitution on fundamental ideas of the Enlightenment and science. So simply to just boilerplate what took place then, without also adding to it the modernity of what’s going on right now, that’s why a lot of the Constitutional stuff hasn’t had traction, even though they say some good stuff, because it’s not modernized to the modern world. So I encourage you to take a look at what we’re doing. We’re working with a number of those concepts. In fact, the lawsuit that we have, Sean, goes back to the fundamentals of the First Amendment, which is the fact that political… Government speech cannot supersede political speech. But thank you, but please go check out…

Sean: Can we push for having the December 15th become a national holiday?

Dr.SHIVA: Sure, work for it. Thank you. Let’s take our next call. Go ahead. Hello?

Vicki: Hi, there. Can you hear me?

Dr.SHIVA: Hi, yes. Who’s this?

Vicki: Yes. This is Vicki from Arizona. I just wanted to ask you something about these vaccinations. Those that have taken vaccinations, is there any detox that they can do? And my other question is, do you know the ingredients of the vaccines and what havoc they’re, they could cause on the human body?

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, so the question, thank you. Let me address that question. Your from Arizona, right?

Vicki: Yes.

Dr.SHIVA: Okay. Yeah, I did… If you remember, I did some of the analysis for Arizona, which was the whole election analysis. But let me talk about… Look, the first thing we need to understand, Vicki’s, there’s a video I did, I think, it’s almost a year ago, where I explained the Immune System. Do you rememberthat video? I went into details of explaining the Immune System. So if you, if you go back again… This is why I encourage everyone to take a Systems Approach. What is the Immune System and why are vaccines even being promoted?

So if you go back and you go back to the foundations, the Immune System is a part of your body, which has evolved over billions and billions of years. One of the most powerful parts of your Immune System is to recognize that it’s an interconnected system between the early Immune System of these different types of cells, which try to take out a virus or pathogen what’s called the innate part. You have an interferon system. And then you have the adaptive system, which creates antibodies. You also have the all the gut microbiome and all those good bacteria in your gut, which connect to your brain. So it’s a complex system of systems.

Now, what I just shared with you right now, is a modern understanding of the Immune System that I shared, and I presented a paper at the National Science Foundation, I gave that talk. But in 1915, the idea of the Immune System was just two boxes, “Oh, you just have the innate… The cells and you have antibodies.” So when they pushed the National Vaccination Act in 1962, a year before the measles vaccine came out, that had to do with a very rudimentary understanding of the Immune System, which said, “Oh, if you can create antibodies, then your body is going to be in great shape.” You follow what I’m saying, Vicki? It was all about antibodies, antibodies, antibodies.

Just like the climate change fools just talk about CO2, CO2, CO2. It’s a much, much more complex. So the reality is your body has many of these systems and there’s many foods, supplements, right? Things that can power your Immune System. So even if your body… So, for example, we know that vitamin D3, which is not a vitamin, which is a hormone, actually creates a chemical in your body called cathelicidin anti-microbial proteins, CAMPs. Those proteins are amazing anti-microbials to boost your Immune System.

Now, when it comes to… When your body is… you know, so when they created a vaccine, I call it a jabine, okay, a jabine. When they created the jabine what they did was they were trying to simulate me sneezing on you, Vicki. Even though it sounds disgusting, okay, so they’re trying to simulate that. So what they did was they took one little piece of that sneeze particle, which they called an antigen, or they tried it with the mRNA vaccine, they try to make your body create that antigen, the spike protein. But it wasn’t working too well.

So then they started having to add all this other garbage to it, okay? To make even the body absorb it or even recognize it. And many of those additional compounds they add to it created the inflammatory response. So they created the response. But the real point here in the vaccines is because of Operation Warp Speed, thank you to Trump, right, which he could have had the brass balls to stood up but he didn’t. They fast tracked all this. So we don’t even know Vicky, the complications these additional things can cause. That’s the reality. It’s no different than if Toyota or Ford or the automotive industry was allowed to put out cars without any testing, right? You don’t know what could happen. You could drive a car maybe the engine could fall out. Maybe the transmission blows up. Maybe the wheels fall off, right? So…

Vicki: Right.

Dr.SHIVA: Right. So when we look at when we look at these ingredients for taking, one of the areas that I would encourage people to go investigate is things that support your liver, okay? If your liver is strong, and if your liver… So whenever drug companies build drugs, they look at two things efficacy and what’s called toxicity. With the technology I created, CytoSolve, we’re able to simulate that but one of the ways that you look at toxicity comes to the liver. Now if your liver is strong and healthy and you support it, whatever toxins are there, your liver has a good chance, if it’s strong, to eliminate it. So, one of the things I recommend to people I mean, if anyone is poisoned or you think you’re your body needs a detox, right? You strengthen the liver because typically when they build pharmaceutical products, they always look at the liver clearance rate, how fast the liver gets stuff out, like even if you take Advil or ibuprofen, right, you notice it doesn’t last forever, right? Because the liver eventually clears the stuff out.

So there are some very interesting nutrients you can think about for supporting the liver. One of them is called milk thistle, silymarin. You can look it up. Dandelions, okay? But I encourage people to go look at things that support your liver. Talk to your… if you have some good integrative medicine, medical doctors, right nature paths, okay. The liver is one of the important organs to strengthen. We’re still in sort of spring/summer time now, okay? It’s a good time to look at those foods that strengthen liver function. Because liver is really a very important… In Chinese medicine they call it the wood element, in Indian system we call Pitia, p i t t a. Another very interesting herb to look at is something called turmeric, t u r m e r i c. But that’s what I’d recommend. You know, because the liver is a function of removing toxins. I hope that helps.

Vicki: Yeah, absolutely. And thank you for all that you’re doing. I love watching your shows. And can you, can you say again exactly where that information, the videos are, on your website?

Dr.SHIVA: Yes. So just go to, Victor Alpha and go to… I’ll put it up on the thing here if you want… I encourage you to… we want, we want to get about 50,000 Truth Freedom Health warriors. I just put it up. You can see it. So go to, Vicki.

Vicki: Okay,I’ll look for that.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, we need to get people educated. We got to get out of this garbage show of WWF wrestling. One day, Trump, another day, DeSantis, another day, Obama, another day, Bernie. They’re just all playing us, okay?

Vicki: Okay. Dr.SHIVA, thank you.

Dr.SHIVA: Let me take the next call. Thank you. Okay, so who do we got next? Let me take this person. Hello, hello. Hello. Hi. How are you? What’s your name? And where are you from?

Cory: Cory from Texas. Yeah, this is Cory from Texas. I was wondering what your opinions were on the Arizona audit?

Dr.SHIVA: Yes. So I can’t, you know, so, as you know, we did, if you remember, Cory, one of the analysis that went viral, right? Remember when I did that mathematical analysis and Giuliani cross-examined me? I don’t know if you remember that, we show the unlikely of…

Cory: Yes, sir.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah.So all I can tell you is that I’ve been in touch with some of those people. I just can’t share what’s going on. But they’re in the midst of counting ballots. Okay? And they’re going to do some more analysis. So that’s what I can share with you. In Massachusetts, as we know, we were the first ones to present unrebutted evidence showing that… Look, it’s not about mail-in ballots. It’s not about voter suppression. The fundamental issue here, Cory, is that both Republicans and Democrats have been certifying voting machines that have a feature, Cory, in there called a weighted race feature where you can multiply a vote by a factor, okay? That’s what’s been going on.

Cory: Yes, sir, I understand that.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, so our lawsuit in Massachusetts where I gave un-rebutted mathematical evidence survived dismissal. All of Trump’s lawsuits were thrown out. But we showed… So we also have a very important lawsuit here. And obviously, we helped outArizona a lot because that analysis I did really helped bring it to this. The awareness got built, but thank you. Thank you for calling.

Cory: I have a one more question.

Dr.SHIVA: Sure.

Cory: So I started following you in the beginning before I even got into politics because of the Coronavirus and you talking about the Immune Systems. But, um, one thing that got me into noticing the fraud happening with you is that you showed up on. like, the pillow guy’s documentary and other podcasts that I don’t know if I’m allowed to say on YouTube. I was wondering if you had talked to those people who had interviewed you and if they have any input on what your opinions are on Trump. And I’m very into politics…

Dr.SHIVA: Well yeah, I mean, here’s the bottom line. Look, I supported Trump for three years, okay, big time. So this is not… What I’m trying to tell people is not about Trump or no Trump. But what we need to do is there are a lot of people… Look, the working people in America, Cory, are the finest people. I’ve traveled all over the world. The working people in America are the finest most kindest people. And the working people in America have the First Amendment and the Second Amendment. Do you know how dangerous the Global Elites view the working people of America? Big time?

Cory: Yes, I understand.

Dr.SHIVA: So, so just think about… There’s, you know, 100 million people in the United States, working people in this country, whatever, 150 million, who have the First Amendment and the Second Amendment. That scares the hell out of the Elites. So they have a lot of Systems Science that they do to watch the working people, “How are they feeling today? Are they going to overthrow us tomorrow? Like what almost happened in the 1900s?” You follow? So they have cameras…

Cory: Yes, sir.

Dr.SHIVA: …they have marketing, they collect data. So every time they say, “Wow, the working people are getting pissed off. Okay, let’s give them a black guy, Obama this time,” okay? “Let him screw them over for eight years.” You see what I’m saying? All right. “They got, you know, they figured that out.” Okay? Then the next thing they do is then the next thing they do is they try somebody else, right? If it wasn’t Obama, right? They try somebody else, right? They will go try… Trump, okay? “We need a white guy now.” Okay? Right, because the white working class is really getting pissed off. Okay? Many of them voted for Obama. Okay, so we’ll give a guy that’ll say. “Lock her up. Make America great,” right? And then right after he got into office, he didn’t do anything against Hillary. So I don’t want to hear anyone excuse this. Anyone who excuses Trump for noteven getting a special prosecutor and saying, “Well, you know, he was going to do this.” The Q… A lot of the Q people need to get an ‘I’ before the ‘Q’. They need to get an IQ, okay? Because right after Trump got in for the next… Within two weeks the Q-people out there were saying, “Trust the plan.” You remember that? Cory? Trust the plan?

Michelle: Yeah.

Dr.SHIVA: You remember that, Cory?

Cory: Yeah, I mean, I’m very new to what? Yeah, what I’m saying is, follow that. But yeah, I don’t either. So the main thing is, you know, the people had to stand up and start, start showing their brass balls…

Dr.SHIVA: Exactly. You nailed it, man.

Cory: …and stop waiting for some savior to come and save them.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah. And so what we’re doing is, you know, 40 years of my life has been about understanding politics as much as understanding science and medicine. So as a public service on the VAShiva platform, I want to encourage everyone to go to There is a science, Cory, to understanding all of this. Just like you can understand how to build an airplane. There is a science and unless we learn that, we’re always going to be going from here to here to here. So I encourage you to do that. Thanks, Cory. Be well.

Cory: All right. Thank you.

Dr.SHIVA: Bye, bye. All right, so let’s take our next call. It is 10:30 we’ll take how many more calls you wanna take, Michelle? Okay, we got 10 more. Probably got a lot more people. Go ahead. How are you? Who’s this? Hello? Yes. How are you?

Jen: Hi, my name is Jen. I’m from New Jersey. How are you?

Dr.SHIVA: Good. How are you? What part of Jersey? Are you in?

Jen: I’m actually in Monmouth, Ocean County.

Dr.SHIVA: Okay, yeah, I grew up there. But goahead.

Jen: Awesome. Okay. So I’ve been following you since before your election, and I know you got the bum deal on your election. I knew it was a fraud. My question to you is, where do you see us going in terms of having an election in the future that has integrity for future elections, not even just local, state… I’m talking, you know, the federal government? You know, the whole kit and caboodle.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, so great question. What was your name again?

Jen: My name is Jen.

Dr.SHIVA: Jen, you’re asking a very, very important question. Jen, you know, you know, Brexit remember when they did the Brexit vote? You know that was all done with hand-counted paper ballots. So what we are doing well, so one of the things I encourage you to become a Truth Freedom Health warrior because we have three parts of our program. One is, you know, the scholarly training of the physics of how to build a movement. Second is we built a whole community, which is all in our own platform, independent of Facebook. It’s all underground. And the third piece is we’re creating different activism things people can participate in.

One of them is an area of elections. I say forget… As long as we have these electronic voting machines, which the Democrats and Republicans are certifying, we have selections in this country, not elections. So how do we solve it? So we have to go back to the root of the problem otherwise we’re just, we’re just fooling ourselves, right? We’re just thinking, we’re doing stuff, etc. So the fundamental issue is this. Here’s the solution. The systems solution here is we need to make sure that first of all, Election Day, becomes a civic holiday, right?

It’s a holiday that everyone gets off. Number two, we need to make sure that we destroy all of these electronic voting machines. And we go back to hand-counted, paper ballots, number two. And when an election takes place, before midnight, all those paper ballots should be counted. And the result… At the local precinct, there should be no computers, there should be no trading of hard drives, or USBs, the people need to count it with paper and post all the images up on a cloud server. So everything is transparent, unless we get to that all these elections are selections.

So one of the ways we can get there is all… I’ll be sharing this with shortly, but in Massachusetts, we’re putting together what’s called the ballot initiative. So imagine that when you go to vote next time, there’s a ballot vote, which says, “I want hand-counted, paper ballots.” You see what I’m saying?

Jen: Yeah.

Dr.SHIVA: That’s what we need to go to. Because that’s what we need to fight for: hand-counted, paper ballots and all those ballot images need to be saved. So that’s the effort that our movement is leading right now. Because without that, you don’t really

have democracy. Because look at…

Jen: Right, right.

Dr.SHIVA: …look at Michigan and Georgia. The state legislatures were Republicans, right? They didn’t care whether Trump won or lost, because you know why? Those swamp creatures already own all the legislatures and they get all the money transfer. You see what I’m saying? Meaning the corruption… So what happens in every state, the Republicans and Democrats strike a deal, “Okay, we’ll take the… We’ll control the state legislatures. We’ll give you the federal,” Okay? So there’s a reason that in Michigan they don’t really care about the federal election because all the swamp Republican creatures in Michigan already got all the money. Meaning they got all the corruption they need. So we need to let go of Left and Right, Republican and Democrat. It’s literally WWF wrestling, you know, that’s what it is.

Jen: Oh, I agree.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah.So anyway, I look forward to… Become a Truth Freedom Health warrior. We need to create a movement. My goal is around 50,000 people globally trained on the physics and then we go take action. So we need to take five steps back, it’s a good time to do it, and build a movement that’s really founded on the political physics, otherwise, everyone’s gonna be taken for a ride again and again and again and again. Thank you.

Jen: I agree. Thank you for your work. I appreciate it.

Dr.SHIVA: Thank you. Yeah, become a Truth Freedom Health warrior. Okay. Thanks. Bye, bye.

Jen: For sure, for sure.

Dr.SHIVA: Yep. Okay, let’s take a few more calls. I’m going to can I… let me talk? Okay. Hi, how are you?

Jersey: Hi, my name is Jersey and I’m also from Jersey.

Dr.SHIVA: Okay, a lot of Jersey people today.

Jersey: I just want to say something quick about Trump. I know that he was a germaphobe; I just think they found his Achilles heel, but I really I didn’t vote for him the first time. I thought he was going to do something.

But I follow a woman, Johanna Budwig. She was hired in the 1950s. She was a physicist and a biochemist. She was healing cancer with food and she used flax oil and… …and she would get it to bond with the Quark cheese to make it water soluble. So it would go right to the liver and be dispensed as energy. She was curing 90% effective in curing cancer and the government stopped her when she tried to stop them from using margarine because it was going to kill people and suffocate them…

Dr.SHIVA: Wow, yeah.

Jersey: …and I would love your system to disprove or prove because I’ve been on a three-and-a-half-year journey with this woman I found out. I fell down the rabbit hole. And I just… Her work is… Nobody’s ever disproved it. They just wouldn’t talk about it because she would take… They would take her to court. She would say that chemotherapy doesn’t cure cancer. It just causes death itself. And they would say, “You can’t say that.” And the judge would say, “Well, she can prove it.”

And then they would say… They just wouldn’t talk about it. And so she died at 94 years old from a fall in the bathroom in 2003. Still treating people for… And she didn’t… It wasn’t about the money. She took three payments. You were her patient for life. And she believed that when she died that that science was going to die with her because it was all about the money. She was amazing.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, so I think it’s the Budwig protocol, right, which is basically, if I remember correctly, you use flax oil with us flax oil with one second… …Okay, sorry about that.

Jersey: Oh, there you are.

Dr.SHIVA: Are you still there?

Jersey: I am, I am.

Dr.SHIVA: So you bring up a very interesting point. So, so Budwig came up with this protocol, which is you use… typically… Some people use a flax oil with the cottage cheese. Right? And some other people use the…

Jersey: Quark cheese, but yeah, yeah.

Dr.SHIVA: …Or the… you take the flax seeds, and you crush it? Yeah. So we could run that through CytoSolve. Right. Yeah. So it’s a great idea.

Jersey: I would you love to.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, we’ll do that. I think one of the most important things to recognize here is look, the biggest point that I want to get across here is the big elephant in the room. We know, there are many, many amazing protocols, right? Food, diet, turmeric… I mean, you can look at many, many things, you know, parasites, I mean, I mean, there’s a huge body of alternative knowledge, you know, 10,000-20,000 years of other systems of medicine, right, that are effective. But the bottom line is that they do not own politicians.

They do not generate the kind of capital. You know, vitamin D, for example, it’s I think it’s a $1 billion industry, okay? Pharmaceutical companies are a trillion-dollar industry. You see the order of magnitude? It’s an order of 1000 different. So if you could say, “Hey, look, you just have to take vitamin D3, or get sunshine, or, you know, eat clean, leafy-green vegetables, and these are pennies on the dollar,” right? They’re not going to make these guys money. That’s why the only way we’re going to change this is if we build a movement.And these politicians, I don’t care how good they sound every… Have you noticed every four years? It’s always sounds good, one side or the other side. You know, Jesse Jackson or Kerry?

Jersey: Yeah, I’m Libertarian.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, yeah,but I’m saying that… Yeah. And so but on the Democratic, they always found someone that Tulsi Gabbard, mark my words, is the next person they’re grooming on the Left, right? So on the Left and the Right. It’s like a farm league that they have. They’re really always grooming people to manipulate people. And we just have to almost say, “No.” You know, it’s like, they want to give you Pepsi or Coke.

And we have to say, “Both have sugar in them. They’re awful for you,” right? We have to say, “No.” And we have to take care of our health. And we have to build a movement. But thank you. Yeah, so you know, yeah, email me. Yeah, email me at And just to remind me, so I’ll get it to our scientists. But we’ll do an analysis of that. Because me and Michelle, we’re doing that, right?

Michelle: Yeah.

Dr.SHIVA: Because we have a bunch of our volunteers to the Truth Freedom Health movement. We have a couple I think they’re in their 80s. Very healthy, but they do the Budwig protocol every day.

Michelle: It tastes good, too.

Dr.SHIVA: It tastes good, too.

Jersey: Yeah, and she said that one of the reasons I noticed you was because one of the things she would always say is that if somebody said they discovered something, and they can’t explain it to a common person, they’ve discovered nothing.

Dr.SHIVA: Right.

Jersey: And I heard you. And I was like, when I watched your video, I watched it like 12 times. And I showed it every time to my clients. And we talked about it. And everybody understood what you were saying.

Dr.SHIVA: Great. What do you… What work do you do?

Jersey: I’m a hairdresser. So I just, yeah.

Dr.SHIVA: Excellent. Yeah, I mean, we have… Look, I think one of the interesting things with people in your industry, you have a chance to talk to a lot of people and connect, and you’re doing a great service and you make people feel good and help them, but I think the more we can get everyday people understanding these common principles.

So please make sure you go to We got to educate people. My great grandfather said education is ultimately the revolution because then everyone gets their own Northstar, right, they don’t need… They can discern things. But the education we want to offer people as a Science of Systems, because once you understand that you can understand everything. So thank you.

Jersey: Absolutely. Thank you, thank you for your work.

Dr.SHIVA: Yep. Thank you. Be well. So let’s take another call here. Hi, how are you? Hello. Can you hear me? Yep? Can you speak a little bit louder? And in the interest of time, can you just ask your question or make your comment in 30 seconds? I’d appreciate it. Thank you because I want to get everyone in. Thanks.

Ian: Certainly, Dr.Shiva. I first want to extend my appreciation to you and the work you’re doing. My name is Ian. I’m a film director in New York City. I’m originally from Arkansas. I am also a student of politics. And I’ve studied the American Revolution and the Chinese revolution. I lived in Beijing…

Dr.SHIVA: Wow.

Ian: …for about eight years working in the film industry there. And I want first to congratulate you also on the movement. The lady that we just talked to is a hairdresser. I’ve heard several of the other people calling in, they see it sounds like you’re attracting some common people and that as somebody that has studied revolutions, and mass movements, there’s nothing more important than having the common people come to you.

And I want to give you a small critique. Actually, it’s not very small. I think maybe your team is to be improved. But you need better outreach on social media and videos specifically. You have great in person power you yourself, in your live streams are very good. I think that you could benefit a lot from having some media professionals even volunteering for you to create some one-minute videos to five-minute videos no longer than that.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah.

Ian: To really help push the message and so I did send you an email a couple weeks ago. I didn’t get a reply, which means you’re probably flooded with stuff.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah. Where did you… Which, to which… What was your first name?

Ian: Ian.

Dr.SHIVA: Ian, where did you send it? Did you send it to or

Ian: I would have to check my outbox, but I sent it to the lawsuit website where I also was donated money to help you.

Dr.SHIVA: Oh, I see. Thank you. You… Look, do this because since you’re a student of revolution and you’re a filmmaker, we’d love… We’d love to… I don’t know if you have time, but I think you get it.

Ian: I could, I can make time. Also I specialize… I actually I don’t want to give away too many personal details on the air, but I work in specifically an area that can… you can benefit largely from what I do I’d rather not…

Dr.SHIVA: Okay, so do this. If you can right now email me at VA Shiva, Victor Alpha And we will set up time for us to talk this week. Okay?

Ian: Certainly. Okay. Let me read that back to you. I have it written down, Victor Alpha Shiva @ Sierra Hotel India Victor @ gmail?

Dr.SHIVA: No, no. @VA Shiva, just VA Shiva. You know, our website, right? VAShiva. Just

Ian: Oh, of course. Certainly. Thank you very much. I’m glad that…

DrSHIVA: Yeah, yeah, no. Thank you. Thanks for your critique. I appreciate it. You’re right on, right on point. Thanks.

Michelle: And for reaching out again.

Dr.SHIVA: And for reaching out again. It shows you ah first it shows you have persistence. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Be well, thanks a lot. Yeah, but please email me tonight. Okay. Yeah, thank you. All right, so that was Ian. Let’s take the next call. We’ll try to get everyone in whoever’s last call. So, someone just… Okay, go ahead. How are you?

Caller: Hi, good evening.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, can you just speak a little louder so everyone can hear you?

Caller: Hi, good evening. I’m also from New Jersey.

Dr.SHIVA: Wow, why do we have so many New Jersey now? Michelle’s been wanting to go down in New Jersey to the Jersey Shore, the beaches.

Caller: So I had just come upon you as, like, I’m health oriented and, like, Ayurvedic approach to well being, maybe just, like, three or four months ago. And then I came upon what was going on with you in Massachusetts. And so I really clicked on and I’ve been following. So as a mom of three, within came about with COVID my kids were nervous that they were like 17 to 22. I’m in North New Jersey. It was like the hot spot of every thing that early beginning in Bergen County. And I told my kids, I’m like, I want you to remember, like, first of all, we are vaccinated and we’re healthy. I said, you have to remember you’ve had all these great years of healthy living, because I love to cook. We do at-home meals. I’m not a takeout person. I’m like, you’ve had healthcare, you’ve had, you know, good, orthodontic work. You have your, you know, your general well being and everything that they do at the beginning of COVID. So I amped up with my household. I started with elderberries, extra D3, plenty of green tea and other things just to help develop the system. And I really want my kids to know like, you’re really so far ahead of people that worldwide, like, I really want them to understand worldwide so many people don’t have access to what we have in terms of what seems so simple for wellbeing.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah. So. So what’s your… What’s your thought? Yeah, so I think your main point is what people should really focus on building their health and their Immune System. Is that what you’re really saying?

Caller: Yeah, absolutely. You know, my kids. They’re big hikers, they’re outdoors. I’ve actually changed up my schedule for the next six months. I’m really… I work in the transportation industry. I have remained at work. But I really tried to maintain it. But I realized that even my body needs a break right now. So I’m changing up my schedule, so I can get two hours of outdoor sun time every day.

DrSHIVA: That’s great. Well, thank you.

Caller: And but what I really want to point out is that I find it so interesting that with what you were doing in Massachusetts with your senate run. I think that you just kind of knew something was off. And in your pursuit, before where you’re standing now, you knew something was off, and it led you down this road. It’s kind of like, it’s kind of like Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz. Which road am I gonna take.

Dr.SHIVA: No, I think you’re right.

Michelle: I’ve never heard anyone make the correlation between Shiva and The Wizard of Oz. That’s funny.

Dr.SHIVA: No, no, no, you’re… You’re making an interesting point. Because I swore when I was a kid, because I figured out this Democrat/Republican nonsense, that I would never run for office. So when I ran, you know, we we’re now sitting on the lawsuit of the century, because I ran and entered like you said into this Wizard of Oz nonsense, right? We went down the Yellow Brick Road. But you make a very good observation. But thank you, please become a Truth Freedom Health warrior. We need more people like you. Okay, because…

Caller: I want to share one thing…

Dr.SHIVA: No… One minute because I have this other… The reason I wanted to just make this point is you talked about Ayurveda. So you know, in 2007, I went back to India on a Fulbright, and I discovered that the entire principles of Indian medicine, the foundational principles, it’s not even a medical principle, you can apply those principles to understand political systems. So, this is gonna sound really weird, but there are nine principles that if you understand them, you can use to understand why your computer system, you can use to understand your body as a system. So I encourage everyone to become Truth Freedom Health warriors because we need to build a movement, a conscious movement. Go ahead. Can you just take 10 seconds and wrap up because I got a bunch of other people…

Caller: You’ve opened Pandora’s box.

Dr.SHIVA: Yes. Thank you.

Caller: Don’t forget, don’t forget, with all the evil, with all the evil that Pandora’s box opened, the one thing that was left in the box was hope.

Dr.SHIVA: Uh huh. All right. Thank you. You’re very, very good. Yeah, we need people like you to be Truth Freedom Health warriors so go to Truth Freedom Health, and I hope to see you there. Thank you. Okay, cannot be well, thank you. Okay, so let me take someone has been waiting for 32 minutes. Wow. And by the way, I’m gonna have to end this. So no more calls. Well, whoever’s in queue. I’ll finish you up. Okay, go ahead. Next. Hello. Please speak loud.

Debra: Dr. Shiva?

Dr.SHIVA: Yes, who is this?

Deborah: This is Deborah from Connecticut. And I will do this quickly. I want to encourage you. I want to thank you for your work. I’ve been on board with you for a long time. I got all my Massachusetts people to vote for you twice in the primary and the election. I’d also like to say that for 33 years I was an election official. I retired this year. I watched your video where you had asked people to go to their town hall and get their voter list. When I went into my office the next morning, I got three requests for our voter list. Yes. I sat there and I went, “They want that for Dr.SHIVA.” So you are… What I’m saying is you’re more… plenty of people are watching that you don’t even know about. Okay, here’s my question on your lawsuit. Okay. Now did you say that the judge has appointed constitutional lawyers to help you out?

Dr.SHIVA: Yes.

Deborah: Okay. Can you trust these people?

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah. Well, you know, it’s a very, very good question.

Deborah: And why did he do that? Why did he do that?

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah. So, so anyway, thank you. Let me answer your question. And it’ll actually be a good way that we can also make sure we let everyone know. So everyone knows, there are two lawsuits, okay? One lawsuit is where we’ve exposed with un-rebutted, mathematical evidence that they multiplied my votes. That’s, that’s lawsuit number 12080. The other lawsuit is lawsuit 11889. And, by the way, people have access to it. You can go look it up. But that lawsuit occurred and what was your first name?

Deborah: Deborah.

Dr.SHIVA: Deborah.So Deborah, you know, that on the electronic voting machines, the voting machines when you put the ballot in generate a ballot image, right? They create an image?

Deborah: Oh, yes.

Dr.SHIVA: Right?

Deborah: Oh, yes.

Dr.SHIVA: Now, according to federal law, you’re supposed to preserve those images for 22 months, which has been adjudicated in multiple states. So when I found out they cheated me on September 1st, I went in and I applied a public records request. I said, “I want those ballot images.” Well, the Secretary of State’s office wrote me back and they said, “We don’t save those images. We deleted them.” Okay? So I wrote back and they said, they told me that by Massachusetts’ law, they don’t have to save them. Well, I was running a federal election. Federal Election code says you have to preserve them. So federal election law. So then I wrote that back, by the way, you should email me because you were an ex-election official. We want to get your email, email, just write this down VAShiva, Victor Alpha Please email me. Okay? Don’t forget.

But anyway, so I wrote a follow up email. I said, “Look, I want you to tell me what Massachusetts’ law allows you to delete ballot images.” The electiondirector wrote me back an email, never answered my question. Simply said, “Oh, we save the paper. And but we don’t store the electronic.” I said, “Well, you violated federal law.” Well, those four emails, screenshots I saved up online, right? I mean, I tweeted out. Well, within hours of me sharing that the fact that the state election director and the Secretary of State have violated federal law, I get thrown off Twitter in the middle of my federal election. We found out that the government did it, which means the Secretary of State contacted Twitter, so on October 30th, you know, I represented myself, it was me against three lawyers. We had a four-hour hearing, and it came out that the government in fact, I bet you even in Connecticut, they have a partnership with Twitter, all of them do. And that’s when I discovered this playbook, right? This playbook called Election Influence Playbook. And it’s for state and local officials, right?

So this playbook clearly exposed that the government has a infrastructure, or portal. So on October 30th, the guy the judge gave me all the terms of my preliminary injunction, which was a huge victory, right? And then he reprimanded them, and he said more than likely I’ll win the whole lawsuit. Well, I got put back on Twitter and November 3rd, you know, 30 days after my election, you know, after my election is over, and then I started tweeting again, on February 1st, they threw me off again, when I shared those four screenshots. Now, so I went back into court. So the judge had the hearing, which you probably saw on the 20th and 21st. And that’s when the judge when I when I discovered this these playbooks, right, the night before. That’s when the judge realized what’s really going on. And that’s when he came in the next morning, and he said, “Look, I know you’ve done this on your own, but I think you could do well with the value of some constitutional lawyers.” Now, you’re right. I’ve been representing myself. Do I trust lawyers? No. But what’s interesting is this judge was one of the youngest judges appointed by Reagan, a Libertarian judge, a constitutionalist. I mean, he just goes after the law, okay? He’s the one who exposed Whitey Bolger was an FBI informant.

So you can’t trust anything in this world. But what I do trust is working people and that we have to build a movement. So that’s why the lawsuit is an important element of that movement. So what I’m sharing, everyone, is everyone should go to, And I want everyone listening to give at least $1. Not because the money, we’re gonna need money, a lot of it because we need to do depositions and we need to do hearings, and I can’t do that on my own. I need support, right? ‘Cause I’m not a trained attorney. I brought it this far, Deborah. But yeah, so we have three lawyers. The judge put the hearing to recess. We have the lawsuit beginning again on January 5, June 15th. So I have legal support. But youknow, I still have the rights to do hybrid representation. But that’s where we’re at. But please email me, I’d love to speak with you.

Deborah: Okay, I will and I’ve already donated to your I just donated to your lawsuit.

Dr.SHIVA: Yes, get everyone… To every person listening, we have almost 1200 people. Everyone should donate at least $1. And by the way, if you donate more, which would be great. Everyone gets access to the Truth Freedom Health course, the portal. So it’s a reciprocity. So support this lawsuit, because it’s your lawsuit. Thank you, Deborah, thank you very much for calling.

Deborah: And thank you for what you’re doing. God bless you.

Dr.SHIVA: Thank you. Okay, so we have four more calls that I’m going to take. Thank you, Deborah. So go ahead. We have nine with… Again, it’s another New Jersey. I think it’s another New Jersey number. Hello?Hello, hello?

Mark: Hi, Dr.SHIVA.

Dr.SHIVA: How are you?

Mark: Great. This is Mark.

Dr.SHIVA: Hi, Mark, how are you?

Mark: I’m great. I’m actually calling from New Jersey, Morris County area.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah. Great.

Mark: Dr.SHIVA, I appreciate what you’re doing. My concern, most recently, is with the mandatory vaccinations that are coming down from employers. And I don’t know exactly where you stand on the vaccination. I know a lot of people have called and they’ve taken it or they don’t have a concern. But I’ve had COVID. And, you know, I recovered, and I just do not feel that I should be mandated or forced into it. And I think the only state that, you know, at this time, is Florida. It’s not allowing that. But employers are definitely headed in that direction.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, I mean, look, you’re bringing up probably one of the most central issues of our time. And the reason we got here, again, I speak to people on the Left and the Right. Because if you… This is a civil liberties issue, and you have Trump saying, you know, “Everyone should go get jabinated now.” If you watch him, right? And he did Operation Warp Speed. The real issue here is this, that the government is using private actors to do their dirty work. And the private actors are using the government so the dirty work gets done. So where the government begins and where Big Pharma ends or where the government begins, where Twitter ends, nobody knows anymore. That’s where we’re at. We live in a world of Fascism right now. And that’s where we’re really living in.

So the only way to combat that… We have a window of opportunity, where we have to build an independentmovement. That’s what’s the only way out. Otherwise we’re all going to be migrating what? To Florida or Texas? Or I mean, even in Texas.. The biggest hospital there is forcing, like you just pointed out, I think there was a nurse who already had the antibodies because she’d already gotten whatever the nonsense, right? And her employer, I think it’s Catholic, I forgot the name of the university or the medical center hospital and said she needed to be vaccinated. She goes, “I don’t want to be vaccinated,” a nurse. And I think one of the chief financial officers there also said he didn’t want to be. So there’s a lawsuit down there. But the reality is, many times these lawyers do not know how to sue properly, you know, they’ll do the wrong thing. So I’m not sure what’s going to happen there. But the bottom line is the employers are agents of Big Pharma right now. And, you know…

Mark: Absolutely, I know that the CEOC passed a law on June 1st, I don’t know if you saw that, that said that they can mandate the COVID vaccine. Employers can do that. So I don’t know how to say it. This is getting around that, you know, states have jurisdiction. But that to me seems to be a pressing issue. Because then it’s going to be… You’re going to need a jab every six months.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, look, what… The reason we’re in this condition today. Right? If you really go back, this is why I want everyone to become a Truth Freedom Health warrior, get their chops and learn the physics here. Because in 19, in the 1930s and 40s, we had powerful trade unions in this country, okay? And they grew by the 1950s, the right wing said anytime you wanted to be a union and you wanted to really be bottoms-up, you must be a Communist. So by 1970, the Democratic Party and the Democrats took over all the unions and they struck deals with the big corporations. So working people have no power anymore. There is no power for working people because there’s no independent movements. All the trade unions, all the unions in this country are all sellouts. So we’re in this situation because we all put our eggs in the basket of the WWF wrestling or WWE wrestling, Republicans and Democrats. So we have to…

Maek: So I agree, I think a lot of people are waking up. Certainly, people with intelligence are waking up and hopefully they can enlighten others. My, you know, I’ve fought hard battles before. And unfortunately, it’s a lot of people. You can’t fight City Hall and everybody’s corrupt. And it seems to me that human nature will sell out.

Dr.SHIVA: Well, no, but we can’t… We can’t get lost in that depression about human nature. The only… Look, the good news is our movement exists. We are here.We are… A movement like ours did not exist 50 years ago. We exist. We have close to 50,000 people who have signed up as members, we have 10s of 1000s of warriors signing up. We have to build a politically conscious movement. So the answer to this is, I encourage you to become a Truth Freedom Health warrior. We’re building our own community. And we have the principles on how to fight. Thank you. I gotta take this other call. But thank you for your comments. The only way forward is we have to build a movement. Thank you. Okay, so let’s take… I got a drop. Anyone who calls in new, I’m sorry, I’m gonna have to drop you. Wrap up. Okay?

Brad: Hello?

Dr.SHIVA: Hi, go ahead.

Brad: Hi.This is Brad from Estoria, Oregon.

Dr.SHIVA: Hi, how are you?

Brad: We’re doing fine here. But I have ten grandkids that haven’t been inoculated. Do you suggest that I have them give them the shot?

Dr.SHIVA: Well, look, if this is, you know, I, you know, you have to make your choice, okay? And they are very good integrative medicine and functional doctors you should talk to. I, personally, I’ve never taken any of these flu or any of these vaccines myself. I’m a big proponent of boosting the Immune System. So that’s my position, but I’m not going to impose my will on anyone, that’d be me saying mandated no vaccines, okay. Everyone’s got to do their homework. And we have to understand that ultimately, the goal is to boost the Immune System. All right?

Now, you should go read a very interesting Finnish study that was done of young kids between the age of from the time the mother’s pregnant to when they get to one year, they did a very interesting study of families that had pets, pets, that were indoor pets, pets that went in and out of the house, and, and families that had no pets. Turns out the families that had pets that went in and out I think was almost 70% of the kids had no ear infections, okay? Which means their Immune Systems were being strengthened.

You know, we’re supposed to be exposed to this dirt and all this and you get and your body gets resilient, it gets a little sick, and it gets strong, right? That is now if you look at the 1900s, when we had an infectious disease like measles. You go to the other extreme, if you’re living in filth, and garbage and no hygiene, your body’s always under constant stress. You can’t be at that extreme either, right? Because then your body never has a chance to recover its Immune System. So there’s a fine balance here. So I would recommend that if you email me, I can give you references to different doctors, pediatricians, I’m not a medical doctor. I’m a PhD, you know.

Brad: I understand. I support you and support you all the way, Doc. You’re doing such a great job. It’s really a pleasure to hear what you have to say every time I hear you talk. And I supported you a little bit. I’ll do more in the future.

Dr.SHIVA: I want you to support yourself and become a Truth Freedom Health warrior because what we need is we need very good people like you to get principles. We’re building 1000s of people on our own, you know, we have… All the contributions everyone gives goes right into our servers we buy. We’re building our own infrastructure. We have our own data center. We want to make sure people don’t feel alone. You get educated and you want to connect with others. We have to build our own movement. America is the greatest country, I still believe, on the planet and it can be really the leader for the world. If the working people in this country wake up and recognize that the Left and the Right, Republicans and Democrats, have been just playing them, just using them.

Brad: Exactly. So you’re just right on top of everything I believe in. So thank you very much.

Dr.SHIVA: Thank you very much. Thank you for calling in. Become a warrior. Thank you. Be well.

Brad: You betcha. Bye bye.

Dr.SHIVA: All right, well, we have one more… Sorry, anyone if you’re calling in, we’re running out. So we’ll do it again next time. So that’s why I’m dropping, because I can only take two more calls. It’s 11:08. So go ahead, we have one more person. And, in fact, I’m going to bring both of you in at the same time. In fact, I’m gonna bring all three of you in, there’s three people. Go ahead.

Dawn: Yeah, can you hear me?

Dr.SHIVA: There’s two people. Why don’t you both ask your question, go ahead. Hi, how are you? Yep. Go ahead.

Dawn: I just want to thank you for bringing up the fact that both of the sides, Republican and Democrat, are both the same actually. I remember following you when you were on Young Pharaoh’s in July? Remember?

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, Young Pharaoh’s a great man, I liked him a lot. I have to reconnect with him.

Dawn: Yeah. And I understand, in 2020 things were pretty new and people were trying to figure out what’s going on and I was for Trump, too, at first. And then I realized, and I’m glad that you’re bringing up stuff on the inside that both the Republicans and the Democrats are just one and the same. And this is something I believe that we need to recognize in order to create a movement and move forward. Because if we keep doing the same thing that we’ve done in the past, I don’t believe that we will see any change. So I just want to thank you for bringing up the fact recognizing that both Democrat and Republican are one and the same.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah, I appreciate that. Look, I… We did a video, I think two days – it was yesterday, where it said “Is Trump the Swamp?” You know, it’s an important video. And a number of the vocal minority said, “Oh, you know, why did you do this video? You should just be quiet,” you know, “you could get more money. Yeah, you could get more money from Trumpers.” And look, that’s not me. You have to do what’s right in life. You have to say the right thing at the right time. That would be an opportunist. And that’s not… I can’t do that. But the most important thing is like you just said, “We got to move beyond this WWF wrestling.” Working people are being used. If you saw that video that I did, you got all these very good, you know, people naive, good people saying, “Lock her up. Lock her up. Lock her up.” Well, they never got… Nobody got locked up. Hillary never got locked up. No prosecutor.

Dawn: No one did it.

Dr.SHIVA: Yeah. But at the end of the movie, if you ended the clip that I did, if you notice who did get locked up? These working people. They’re the ones who followed Trump when he said, “I’ll walk over there with you.” If he was a true leader, he would have grabbed people’s arms, you know, and supposedly he had brass balls, and he would have done a march, right? He would have said, “Yes, my election was stolen. I’m going to walk with you and a peaceful march over, to the….” And then he would have said, “Look, this is what’s going on.” But he didn’t do that. Yeah, so that’s not a leader. So that’s when I lost… And we were going to send a bus down there. And two days before that I realized something was really up when I found out who was running “Stop the Steal”. So anyway, I appreciate your call. But become a Truth Freedom Health warrior. Thank you.

Dawn: Thank you.

Dr.SHIVA: Okay, we have one more person who’s been waiting, sorry. It’s our last call. Go ahead from 717. Hello, me. We actually called them back. We see if we can get him. Well, if we don’t get him, Hello. Hi, you’re, you’re the last caller. I’m sorry. We weren’t able to get you in. But go ahead and ask your question. And then we’re going to be finishing up for the night. Go ahead.

Dawn: I thought I was just on. I swore I was just talking to you. Thank you for bringing up the Republicans and Democrats were all the same.

Dr.SHIVA: We did. We had you. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you very much,

Dawn: Thank you so much.

Dr.SHIVA: Okay, Be well. Bye-bye. Okay, everyone, I’m going to wrap up for tonight. But I just wanted to thank all of you. If you guys like this call-in model we can do it more where we cover a topic and we encourage calls, but I want to first of all, thank everyone.

Look, we need to build a movement. It’ll take time. It will take hard work. But we’re not going to get anywhere going from Left to Right, Left to Right. Putting all our eggs in the basket of one of these parties because they are playing us they’re playing you. Go watch that video. All these people said, “Lock her up. Lock her…” well-meaning people thinking, you know, that they were going to get justice. Hillary Clinton should be in jail. She should have been charged; she should have even been investigated. Nothing got done. And that should have been the day everyone woke up. And we didn’t because we were lazy. We think these politicians are going to do stuff.

Remember, this is theater. But again, in summary, while all this theater was going on, “Lock her up,” Hillary, Russia collusion, all this theater, Big Pharma, which was tanking, a trillion-dollar industry just got a free pass. You can’t sue vaccine manufacturers. They got Operation Warp Speed, and Pfizer alone is going to make $26 billion this year. Thank you, Donald Trump. Thank you, Donald Trump. Just like we have to thank Obama for saving the Big Banks. And this is an undeniable fact. I gave money to Trump, many of you did. But we have to awaken. This is an opportunity to truly awaken beyond Left and Right. We need to build the movement for Truth Freedom Health. And every one of you, please, I’ve made it very accessible to everyone learn the Foundations of Systems. That’s what we need to do. And without that knowledge, we will always get taken advantage of so, please, go do that.

In fact, I’ll also encourage everyone, you know, the tip of the spear of our movement is the lawsuit we have in federal court right now called, where we have shown, in court, documents that the government censors all Americans in government using Big Tech. So I want to… Part of our movement is we want to get 5 million people. And you can be wherever in the world you are donating $1, $1. If you’re in India, that’s like 70 rupees. If you’re in, you know, Europe, it’s I forgot what I forgot the exchanger.

But here in America, just $1 and all of you become Truth Freedom Health warriors. It is a way that we win by you getting educated. That’s what we need. We need people to get educated. And I think I may have this. What before I end? Let me see if I have this. Yeah, I’m gonna play this video here. As you think about it. People ask me, you know, what do you think. I was on a Sam Tripoli show. And Sam asked me, “What do you think? Are you afraid they may try to kill you?” So I want to finish up with this video. So let me play this for you.

All right, everyone. I hope we had… everyone enjoyed that conversation. In closing, let’s move Beyond Left & Right, Beyond Black & White. And let’s be the light and fight and build a movement Bottoms-up. Please go to And there’s a wonderful community building and I look forward to seeing you all there.

Monday evenings, I do the class, I do it live. And you can come as many times as you want. And we’ve built an underground social media platform so you can connect with other people and we actually are doing stuff on the ground locally. So it’s not just talk. It’s not just social media. It’s actually doing stuff on the ground to change the world in a profound way with you. Thank you very much. Be well. Have a good night, too. Best to you and your family.

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