In this interview, Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD, Inventor of Email, Scientist, Engineer and Candidate for President, shares with Wayne Dupree his reasons for running for US President, why he can run for US President as a Naturalized Citizen, what he will do as President, and how he can win as an independent candidate.
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Giddy up. What’s up Doc? Good How you guys doing? All right. All right.
Listen. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Dr.
Shara is running for the, for the Oval Office. As a matter of fact, he is out there that the GOP, well, he can actually break it down a little bit more doesn’t look like the GOP is recognizing him right now. But that doesn’t mean that he’s still not talking in trying to raise funds and stuff like that to run.
I heard him in the spaces a couple of weeks ago. And I mean, he, he put forth some, some talking points that I had never heard before. But a whole lot of common sense that came with it.
And he’s been out of the country. And I’m glad he’s back. So Doctor, Doctor, I, let’s, let’s talk you are still running foryes.
So So weighing this, you know, some of you may know, you know, I ran for US Senate, in Massachusetts, as a Republican against Elizabeth Warren, some of you may know, in 2018, the slogan was only the real Indian can defeat the fake Indian, which is a very great slogan. And that was awesome in that was. And then in 2020, I decided to run as a Republican.
And we were the ones you know, in my Republican primary, and we had 3000 volunteers on the ground. You know, we raised 2 million bucks in a Republican primary Massachusetts. And by all accounts, we won that election, but the Republicans in Massachusetts, colluded with the Democrats to literally steal our election.
And that led to my youth putting on my MIT hat as an engineer doing all the analysis, which went viral before all the Trump stuff took place. But in the presidential election, I’m running as an independent. And the reason I decided to do that was because, you know, you know, you guys may know, I have a bunch of degrees from MIT.
And I started recognizing that there’s a very, very powerful graph that you’ll find up on our site on Cheever for president.com. It’s a very interesting graph that goes from 1980 Till today.
And there are two lines on that graph. One line is a straight line going like this, which is a life expectancy average of all the industrialized nations and it’s going like a 45 degree angle. There’s another red line on that graph, which has a life expectancy that’s of the United States population since 1980.
And the line goes like this, okay. So if you have a child today, your child, its life expectancy is going to be lower than yours. So just think about what I’m saying.
And this is not because of the vaccine stuff that just occurred with the pandemic and all that, you know, which I came out against, I came out against the lock downs and all of that in 2020. By the way, bu BF and Kennedy, as I call him was promoting lock downs. Trump was promoting lock downs, okay.
But the point was, as a scientist, I knew something was really wrong. But if you look at that graph, it fundamentally reveals that we need a systems overhaul. Because since 1980, whether it was Republican Reagan or Democrat, or you know, Obama, or Bush, or Trump or anyone, the overall network of policies, be it Obamacare, be it the environmental toxins, be it the stress that the average family now indoors, is destroying the lifespan of the average American.
So just consider that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But that one key performance indicator for you want to use the Harvard Business School terms right of life expectancy reveals a fact that both wings of the establishment for the last 70 years have destroyed the American public, literally destroyed life expectancy. And it’s not any one issue.
It’s a systemic issue. It’s a network of issues. The average American today has $400 in their bank account on a rainy day.
So people are under incredible stress to basically survive. And as a MIT trained systems biologist, the guy who not only created the first email system, but I created the technology that can literally map out molecular pathways in the body. What I can tell you is a policy affects your biology.
Let me give you an example. When they did lock down to policy that affected different molecular pathways in your body to affect an inflammation in your body. It affected oxidative stress, it affected mitochondrial respiration.
What do I mean by that? It means that it actually aged you, okay? It destroyed your immune system. Stress as you know, cortisol affects the immune system. So the policies that are being made by these, whatever you want to call them in Washington are directly affecting people’s biology.
I call it policy to biology. Now a guy like pain was an engineering systems guy who has studies engineering studies biology, can see this blatantly, that a particular policy has affected people’s physiology. And when you really get a handle on this, you really start probably should get really angry at what’s been going on to this country.
But Democrats and Republicans have destroyed the life actually the life expectancy. So and this is what happens when we keep voting for the lesser of two evils. The lesser of two evils is basically destroying your children.
So that’s why when I decided to run as an independent, because all the both major establishment parties are essentially one unit party. And even if they throw out some of these guys, and we’ll talk about, they literally steal my talking points and mimic it, because they essentially want to suck people back into the establishment. And this guy called Vivek, the snake is an example of that is a frequent snake.
If you really look at him, he went to Harvard on a biology degree, and then got a Yale Law degree and look at what he did. I’ll give you the example talking on this topic on health care, a company called GSK, a big pharma company, Big Pharma, created a drug for supposedly helping Alzheimer’s dementia and Parkinson’s. They created this drug which failed for clinical trials, that’s pretty hard to do.
It failed for clinical trials. So it’s a dead drug. This, I don’t even know what how many four letter words I want to use them to describe this fellow created a company that one bought that drug for $5 million, a failed drug.
All right. And then he had his mother, his mother, who was part of the small company, take one of the clinical trials, and it’s called a Completer analysis. So he took one of the failed trials throughout all the people who didn’t complete the clinical trial, which means they probably had adverse effects, and reposition the drug is a success.
All right, and did an IPO on it, took it public, and billions of dollars of valuation, sold his equity in the company made 50 million bucks, and then delayed the final clinical trial knowing it was to fail for about a year to two years, and then you see the stock tank. Now, that means this guy doesn’t care anything about actually solving a problem. It was all about a financial engineering.
abuse these patients and this is the kind of people we want running for President of the United States is a scumbag and you take boobie effing Kennedy, another guy who talks a big game, but go look at his tweets. He was promoting lockdowns in 2020 while I in March of 2020. We’re running demonstrations against lockdowns, I did scientific papers exposing why the vaccine, why the mask mandates were wrong.
And in 29, so you have to really look at these people’s history because where we are right now, when we’re at a very important point in political history, and technology, where people are literally watching what sound bites work. They reuse those sound bites over here. And they want people to have amnesia about their history.
I mean, this frickin Vivek, the snake was promoting mask mandates. And I asked him how come you promoted mask madness? Oh, he goes at the time I was being anti establishment because Fauci was against masks. So I decided to be pro pro masks, I mean, the level of duplicity of these people.
So if you look at my history, you know, I grew up in India, in what is called a caste system, we were considered the lowest caste, not the Brahmins, which is where he comes from, for example. So I had to understand the fight the injustice of the caste system. As a four year old kid.
I learned about traditional systems and medicine for my grandmother. So when I came to the United States, when I was seven years old, I knew all the opportunities America had to offer. So by the time I was 14, I invented the first email system, you know, went to MIT, went, went to MIT, didn’t just fake my degrees actually got four degrees won every award at MIT.
So I’ve always had to bust my ass, not like I didn’t come from some cabal or some clique, right on time that we have actual people who are real Americans and real Indians, you know, bottoms up people. None of these people are bottoms up Wayne. None of them.
They’re all top down. They all come from the Cabal. And what’s really, really disgusting about them is they literally are mouthing words that completely contradict their actions.
And so that’s why, you know, I decided to run and the good thing is, you know, we’ve mobilized a movement, which is educating hundreds of 1000s of people across the world. It’s called Truth, freedom and health. We teach people the inner connection between the movements for freedom and truth and health without freedom.
You can’t do great science and get to truth and without truth and freedom. You don’t know what’s good for your health. And if you’re unhealthy, you don’t have the wherewithal the mental or the physical health, to fight for freedom.
Our health. So the movement for truth, freedom and health is literally the operating system of my run for president. And if you go look on social media, you will know and that’s why I appreciate you Wayne for having me on.
You will see all the other, Grifters be it? I can’t curse on you’re right. No, you’re good fucker. I call them Tucker Carlson.
Or Joe Rogan. All right, or the idiot, you know, Russell Brand, none of them, even though they follow Me will never put me on their show, because they’re all part of this media, this Neo media Cabal. That is essentially,you know, what the way, the way, the way that I look at them are? And I don’t know why the conservative movement, or it’s you The used to be conservative movement.
I don’t know why they have fallen into that the pied piper type of thing wherethere is money, it’s money. It’s money. Wait, yeah,if you have a name, then.
And that name comes out with key words that you use in your everyday lexicon, then that, like, make follows you to them as like, Oh, they’re telling the truth. And all they’re doing is just grabbing you or for their audience, and they really don’t care. I’ve never seen what’s the what’s the one that you just funded her Oscar? No, no, the other one.
I’ve never seen Russell Brand, doing any outreach or talking to any conservatism on the ground, or? Definitely, No, I’ve never seen him do it. But as long as they have a podcast, they can sit behind a mic and say we need to go to war. And the next day, they’re right back in front out there.
Did y’all go? Did you go? You know, I’m saying hud hud? You got a question or Jr. You gottado it. You know, and I’m totally I was totally unprepared for your opening statement.
Doctor was wonderful. But it’s going to cause my question to change. Now, that’s fascinating.
When you do that life’s life expectancy study. I mean, that’s really something that we used to talk about on the show. And again, I’ll go back to its money.
Why do we have food that has 75 ingredients? And it’s like rice, and it’s 75? Ingredients? What is the the Food and Drug Administration? Why are those two entities in the same agency? I mean, it makes me wonder, do they are they? are they developing this food? So will become future former customers?Yeah, it’s called In fact, there’s a new term that they call it food, P H. O D, I don’t know if you’ve heard this term, or pharmaceuticals and foods are being integrated together. Okay.
That’s what’s actually yet so the bottom line is this, okay? That there’s a revolving door between academia and these government institutions. So the guy who’s a head of the department of let’s say, neurology at Harvard, may one day be in the FDA, and then he helps his buddies. I’ll give you an example.
There’s this prick. His name is David Sinclair, he’s a professor at Harvard is is a prick. Let me tell you why he does aging research.
There’s a very interesting supplement called nm n, which is a form of B vitamin, which has amazing effects on mitochondrial respiration. It’s really an anti aging supplement. It comes in certain foods, okay.
But anyway, this guy knows it works. He then went to the FDA, and got it made into a drug and then had the FDA take it off the shelves. I used to take it regularly.
Okay. You can’t get it on Amazon anymore. So what they’re doing is they’re finding nutrients at work, and they’re making them into drugs.
So it becomes very expensive for ordinary people to get. And then they’re taking drugs, which actually hurt people and pushing them you say, but this is happening because you have scumbags who are coming from the elites. I mean, what what does this guy? I mean, if what is Jared Kushner know really about everyday people, what does Ivanka Trump know about everyday people? What is this guy Rama swamp you know about everyday people.
At the end of the day, these people do not represent us. And so that is why if you look back at the history of the United States or for that matter, the world anything that is substantially change has been through bottoms up movements. I mean, you’ll see me Wayne I don’t have my flyer here, but you’ll you’ll see me on the ground.
I have a one page flyer I’ll be out at the train station today, handing it out to 1000s of people. I believe we need to build a ground movement. I’ve always been a ground activists, so I know that a guy like me, they actively make me invisible now, you know 2020 We got about a half a billion people no knew about our movement.
I was a guy expose a backdoor portal to Twitter in our historic lawsuit. You know, we’re the ones Sue found out in federal court by representing myself that the government has an unholy alliance with social media companies. It was called a Partner Support Portal.
We told Tucker Carlson about it and Glenn Greenwald that tweet, and none of them covered it. They waited two years to amplify this bogus limited hangout called a Twitter files. And they actually concealed our lawsuit for two years.
You see, these guys are part of this swarm as I call it, they delay truth to your point Wayne, they wait to the sound bites when it’s convenient for put it out. And Hutch to your point to make money. They don’t want to fucking change the world.
These guys, Dr. You. What’s that?I was gonna say you bring up an interesting point.
And just to kind of summarize, like you grew up in India, in the caste system, we’re working class towns in Paterson in New York, but no, I’m saying is you understand the the elites versus the plebs go back to the Roman times. And that’s, that’s what we’re living in. Today.
People just don’t realize it. Yeah, they distract us with left versus right, when it’s really the power class versus the normal folks as we call them around here. And so So I think we’re all aligned with that.
So let’s say you get elected president. And you look at the members of Congress, and we believe a vast majority of them are corrupt, and are not serving our purposes. That’s one of the things we talk a lot about on the show.
So if you had to name off, like five or 10 true Americans serving in the Congress that you would form bridges with to help try to change the country. Who would those people be?None of them? Look? Let me tell you why. So every single one, yeah, we need a systems overhaul all of these people, every single one of them.
Let me give you an example of that. On November 16 2018, Syska, was signed into law, the cybersecurity infrastructure security agency on December in December of 1791. What happened? Right, we pass something called the First Amendment, which said Congress shall pass no law to bridge freedom of speech.
Congress shall pass no law to breach freedom of speech. I’ll repeat that, again. Congress, the legislative branch, will pass no law to bridge freedom of speech, one of the most foundational principles of humanity.
That’s what made America so powerful, because you had for the first time in human history today, even even though the First Amendment on social media is destroyed, that 3% of humanity has this ability to speak freely against their government. While on November 16, seventh 2018 Trump signed into law Siza, Congress passed a law to bridge freedom of speech, and that was unanimously Jay Robb unanimously voted by every person in the house and unanimous consent by Senate all these people are scumbags. Because they destroyed the First Amendment.
They all did that. So that’s why we need a systems overhaul. Because if you look at these policies, your child’s life expectancy is going to be lower than you.
How do we get here? So they don’t none of these people, the only people I trust, are you Hutch? You know, Wayne, you everyday working people have to get up in the morning, do a job, and they come from nothing, you know, and we’ve had to Jared Kushner, what the fuck does he know about anything? What does Ivanka Trump know? Why the fuck are these people? Even the goddamn White House and Trump talked about draining the swamp. He brought the swamp in, right? He never got rid of Fauci, he’s set claimed he had big brass balls. Well, if you’re going in there to be a revolutionary, then be a fucking revolutionary.
Don’t go in there. And so I couldn’t do this. I couldn’t do that.
And all these magical people look what they’ve done. Right? To your point, Wayne, they, I mean, I was the one who expose the entire backdoor portal. When they put me back on Twitter.
They thought I was going to be a good you know how slave as Malcolm X would say, and bow down to musk. The first tweet I put out when I got back on December 2022. After two years of being thrown off for exposing the backdoor portals.
I said, Hey, Ilan, why don’t you make me your CEO? Well, that went viral got 20 million views every day after that. I said, Ilan, are you going to take down the backdoor portal? My views went from 500,000 views a day to 300,000 now it’s about 5000 views. So you make me back into a you know, I wasn’t willing to be a house slave, right.
I’m still a female slave. Right. But all the other house slaves Robert Kennedy promoting booty Kennedy promoting and fighting censorship.
Everyone Dinesh D’Souza, that little rat promotes him right. All these conservatives start promoting musk. James Woods included.
I know. Yeah. I mean, I’m, I’m one of those that front and beginning I didn’t fall for that.
I didn’t fall on my knees and start praising. Ilan Christ. I didn’t do it because I watched it.
I was like Everybody, all of y’all are coming out here and saying that he’s all this and all that I was like, but he hadn’t fixed it. He didn’t fix anything yet,the banks. This way, the government’s backdoor portal into Twitter is fully operational for government to launder censorship.
It’s in our lawsuit we discovered it is black and white. So here you have Dinesh D’Souza, supposedly a conservative, bowing down to musk. And I lost 20% of my quote unquote, conservative followers for bashing musk, but then he appoints that woman Yeah, ocarina.
Yeah. And then people started to Oh, Dr. Shiva, we’re so sorry.
You know, we stopped following you. These are the same thing. Six posts.
Fauci, you say so you have the woke conservatives, and you have the woke liberals? Yeah, they’re all the same milk, because they’re trying to look for a leader from above. They do not want to do the hard work building a bottoms up movement. You go, then you have more Russell Brand, you know, he thinks he’s a guru talks a bunch of shit.
So you have all these fake idols right now. Right, right.So what’s your what’s your quick 62nd take on Joe Biden?He’s a complete moron.
Come on. I mean, he just has bad PR, right? He doesn’t know how to cover up his nonsense, right. But you know, Jared Kushner just has better PR, right? He took $2 billion from the Saudis, right? interest free loan, basically.
And Hunter Biden just doesn’t have you does the same thing, but in a fucked up way. So you have to understand that it doesn’t matter. You know, it’s like you have one mobster fighting another mobster.
And why the fuck do we care if Trump gets indicted or not? Let them all get indicted. It has nothing to do with working people. But to your point, Jay, Rob is fundamentally what we have is we have an caste system in the United States now.
And it’s a multiracial, global caste system. So you throw in Jared Kushner, you have Musk who comes from apartheid South Africa, you bring in this Brahmin Ramaswamy from India, right? They’re a multi racial caste system. And so my parents left the caste system of India, but now we have a global caste system.
And you and I are not part of it. And what they fear is someone like me, who comes from below exposing them. And that’s why if you look on social media, people will hit Joe Rogan, hey, Joe Rogan, how come you don’t have Dr.
Shiva on? So the invisibility they do to me is going to backfire on them. And that’s why Wayne and Hutchins arrow but I appreciate you guys having me on. Because ultimately, the independent news, like what we’re doing right here is going to win.
Because the more they make a guy like me with all my degrees from MIT with all I mean, I’ve won every one of their establishment awards. You know, I fought I have my credentials, my you know, veteran stripes, you know, exposing Fauci all exposing the backdoor portal exposing election fraud in 2020, when it mattered. I didn’t wait like all of these doctors two years later writing books and doing movies after you know, the house was burned down.
So I think we’re at a very important time, that it’s going to separate the wheat from the chaff. And you know, they have this some random guy not doing songs talking as though he’s like the next, Hank Williams or the woody Woody Guthrie, right? So they are finding more and more people to mimic the real fighters to make sure people get suckered back in to the establishment. It’s a very, very interesting process that they’re doing right now.
Let me ask you one more thing while we got you here, because I read some things that you were advocating for. I want to see if I’m on the right track here for the last two or three years, I’ve been taking the regimen of about 1600 milligrams of liposomal vitamin C. I just wonder if that’s, that sounds good.
To you.Yeah. So if you go look at March 23 of 2020.
I wrote a letter to Trump it’s an economic and immune health for America. I said Do not shut down the country. I said I’m one of the leading guys in the world on the immune system.
I just given a prestige lecture at the National Science Foundation. Marla Maples is former is ex wife delivered that letter to him and I got a call from the White House and I said look, do not shut down the country. There’s no reason to lock down the country.
In fact, he laid out a protocol. I said for the people who have COVID Find quarantine them for the people who have pre existing conditions. Give them you know 100,000 I use a vitamin D 400,000.
I use of vitamin A, quercetin and zinc. I laid it all out. These are proven methodologies and people in the ICU.
Add to that 100 grams of vitamin C delivered his IV. Again, all of these 1000s and 1000s of papers store. Still today I get emails from people saying Dr.
Shiva Thank you. Well, Trump didn’t do it. But the reality is Vitamin C is a very powerful immune modulator right? It stops the cytokine storm.
One of the things we need to educate people on when you Get whatever it is a virus or fungus, something exogenous coming into, that is not eating you up. It’s not like a horror movie where the virus enters and bleeds your lungs out, right? Or sorry, bleed your heart out or your lungs out, right? The reality is when you it is many of these viruses go to different parts of your body. They like a home.
Ebola likes to go to your endothelial in the heart, right the Coronavirus, likes to go to your epithelium, your lungs, and what they’re doing is a they test your immune system if people’s immune systems are weak, the body overreact. It’s like driving across a pothole with no shock absorbers. Right? But if your immune system is strong, you, you feel it you get a little sniffles, and you get stronger.
I haven’t been sick since then. And I smoked for 45 years. Yeah, yeah.
But I’m saying so you because you’ve been taking some of the supplements. Ideally, you get them from the sun and foods, right? But we can’t because of what they’ve done to the soil. But if you supplement your stuff, your body’s immune system is strong.
And you immunomodulators like you go over that pothole, you have nice good shocks, and you go through them. So the idea is boosting the immune system. So it’s not about pro Vax or anti Vax, we have to go to the systemic issue.
What are we doing to support people’s immune system. And you know, I do a lot of aging research. But if you look at the immune system, and aging, they’re very closely connected.
If you want to live long have a strong immune system, if you want to live short destroy your immune system, and they don’t want to talk about that, which means by design, they want to kill people early. That’s what that’s the only logical conclusion you come to. Soare they launch on a pharmaceutical instead of Yes,yes.
Are they want on a pharmaceutical and milk Q or take vitamins like this guy, Sinclair’s done and make it into a pharmaceutical, so you can’t even get? And that’s what the dangerous but the point is hydroxychloroquine. Exactly. And you go down the list of things.
So we live in a very important time that if you use health as a fundamental inner, you know, the indicator of how well a society is doing, we’re not doing that good. And it’s and it’s Republicans and Democrats left and right. And we have to go back and we have to build a bottoms up movement.
And that’s why we’re doing this in a way and I’d love to come back on. Yeah, Wednesday or Thursday. It sounds great.
Yep.Okay. Thank you, Dr.
Shiva, for joining us.That was awesome.Thank you.
And I know, I know, not everybody’s gonna agree with everything you said. But that’s why we record these things. People can go back and they can do their own research and find out.
Okay, well, he did say that, you know, he did say that to, especially when they research and you find out on their own so they can find you which she will for president.comYeah, they can go to Shiva for president.com.
You know, you can go there and volunteer, you know, we got to get on the ballot in every state, we’re doing it all bottoms up, but they can also go to truth, freedom health.com. And we’ve created really a university for people to learn the science of systems.
It you know, I used to teach it at MIT. You know, Brzezinski, Kissinger, all the elites learned system science, and it is what they use to control people. But my view is like Prometheus bringing fire to the world.
We want to bring that knowledge to everyone. We’ve educated now about 300,000 people all over the world. But the idea is we need to create bottoms up leaders, you know, it can’t be based on looking above for some Savior to come anymore.
It’s not going to happen. In fact, that’s going to enslave us even worse.That’s what I think too.
You know, we we will look forward to bringing you back don’t go too far. Don’t don’t go out of the country again. Wegot no I’m not here for good.
Okay. All right. We we will have you back.
Thanks a lot that
